• DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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    The original food pyramid was designed when starvation was a major concern, and so makes sense in that context.

    The “my plate” was a fair adjustment that refocused on quality of food in a world of plenty.

    I have no idea what a “upside down pyramid” is supposed to be.

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      The original food pyramid was designed when starvation was a major concern wheat was massively subsidized.

      FTFY

    • FunkyCheese@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Its healthier more natural foods, meat, vegetables

      Less focus on grains, rice, pasta etc

      RFK is annidiot in a ton of ways

      But he is right about diet

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          It isnt more natural than rice.

          But is more nutrient dense. And it is much more natural than pringles and rape seed oil.

          And contains a lot more essential nutrients

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            Rapeseed oil and rice are effectively identical in terms of like, how much they are shaped and processed by human hands. Or say, oats, barely. Why are those good but canola seeds aren’t?

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        “But he is right about diet”

        They wrote unironically, about a man with a well-documented history of hosting a tapeworm that damaged parts of his brain, due to eating poorly sourced and poorly prepared pork.

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          10 months ago

          Indeed

          You dont eat the grain straight off the plant

          And pasta is basically just that processed grain with water added?

          Try looking up processed foods

          Refined flour acts exactly like sugar inside the body. It all turns into glucagon.

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        Yeah I’m not taking health advise from someone who is basically a walking naturalist fallacy. Arsenic is just as natural as fish if not moreso, doesn’t mean we should be huffing it like ancient bronzesmiths.

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      10 months ago

      I have no idea what a “upside down pyramid” is supposed to be.

      Basically, eat shit peasants. After swimming in it.

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    10 months ago

    The site’s echoes language echoes that of Kennedy’s rhetoric, saying the update ends “the war on protein.”

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    LOL, talking about a “war on protein” as if that’s a thing is like idiot cons talking about a “war on xmas”. 🤣

    If anything, marketing and the culture is pushing wayyyyy too much protein at every turn.

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      Well too bad, because it’s a thing now and you’ll start seeing it parroted with the new talking points any day now

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        You are probably right, since the qons have been acting like a “war on xmas” is really just accepted by all normal human adults as being a real thing, even when people laugh right in their face when they claim it. I’ll be interested to see how they can push it even harder - I’ve been a vegetarian for quite some time and the conversations I’ve had/been subjected to with omnivores and gym bros over rather basic nutrition things, most especially protein, has always been…wild.

        But now every single menu seems to list things like “pick your protein”, making the situation even stupider. I thought that was already peak stupidity, but now things like Doritos are advertising their protein content. I mean…I just can’t even.

        Even Lewis Black ended up skewering this level of dumb. Veg-ns have been snickering about this idiocy for years, believe me, but AFAIK, Black is not a veg-n.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFJx0zFxNAk

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          I actually prefer the pick your protein thing as a pescatarian, because it usually implies that there’s a meatless option like tofu, fake meat, or beans rather than just getting a “no meat” version that really wants for an umami core to it

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            The problem from a nutrition standpoint is that this gives the false impression to a lot of people that only these things have protein in them.

            A lot of rather low-info types already ask me “where’s your protein?” if they know I’m vegetarian and are looking at my plate and don’t see a big helping of something dead on it. In addition, I get a lot of “but I could never eat tofu” kinds of comments when it comes up. When I ask what tofu has to do with anything, they assert things like “well, you have to make up your lack of protein SOMEHOW”. Implication being that only meat or tofu have protein?

            Qdoba is an example - online order, if you choose to create a burrito, it has (as last option, naturally) - “Vegetarian (No Protein)”. Meanwhile, the two main things that go in the burrito are beans and rice, LOL. I’m not saying that it’s the job of outlets like Qdoba to educate about nutrition, but they sure are not helping, and in fact, they are reaffirming a lot of stupid ideas that I’ve heard going back decades…now that so many people are vegan or vegetarian, you’d think they would do better.

            I just don’t think the marketing and the menu layouts are helping to educate people at all about this particular macronutrient, LOL. The old joke the vegans and vegetarians like to tell is when is the last time you’ve heard of someone dying from protein deficiency, but the way the culture acts about protein you’d think there is a real shortage of it going on…

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            10 months ago

            You’ll typically see this used with an asterisk (acting as a wildcard) to combine both vegetarians and vegans. But a star will act as markup to add italics.

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      This is a fucking mess. So meat and dairy should be consumed in equal amounts as fruits and veggies? What’s in that bowl in the middle? Kidney beans and cottage cheese? What’s the fat/protein ratio of the ground beef? You want me to eat the entire chicken? Canned green beans??? Canned tuna??? I guarantee they didn’t but they really should beta test this stuff with normal people to see if they actually understand it.

      I agree that protein should be a primary factor in someone’s diet but it’s completely ignoring nutrient makeup in favor of just saying “eat meat”.

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    I mean it seems sensible. Eat more veggies and fewer grains. The infographic isn’t as informative as the old pyramid, but broken clocks and what not, he’s right that the old one was more informed by lobbyists.

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    Thank god healthy eating was a messaging problem and not an access/affordability problem. The country is all but saved! /s

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    Sorry, I only take nutritional advice from Doctor Marilyn Manson

    Food Pyramid

    (Apologies for the weird vid site link, I couldn’t find a good version in the usual places)

  • Devolution@lemmy.worldBanned
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    Upside pyramid.

    Carbs->Fruits and veggies->Protein and fats->Whatever Crack RFK Jr. Is smoking.