• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    Maybe we can talk about how a shit load of men fantasize about dying a peaceful and necessary death instead of wanting to live or having to live in reality?

    Cuz fuck, that’s so bleak.

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      Is that not normal?

      You don’t want to detonate the explosives while you’re still dangling from the bridge pylon because the enemy army is advancing and there’s not enough time to get away safely before they cross?

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    The cinematographer in me is wondering how I would go about staging the scene without putting footprints in the snow.

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      Composite 2 shots maybe? You would have to be sure to map routes in and out of the scene and then make sure the action doesn’t cross those routes.

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        Yeah. That’s about the only way that I can figure it could be done optically. Or else just fix it in post.

        From a visual standpoint I know it lacks realism if we have a man bleeding out against the bench with no footprints or disturbance to show how he got there. But visually it looks better. I’d also costume the man in very gray colours, with almost the only noticeable color being the pool of red slowly spreading. Frank Miller-ish.

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          It’s starts cloudy and when the fight ends it begins to snow. As the protagonist monolgues he and the cooling corpse of his rival bleed out in the accumulating snow. Bam no footprints, two slowly spreading blood pools, monologue, fade to white.

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            I’d say no dialogue. Tell the story visually.

            This man has been protecting a young kid from afar. The kid’s never met him, but this man has spent the last few months keeping the bad people away from him and it’s taken a very obvious toll on his body. Finally, in the final confrontation, he’s mortally wounded and bleeding out after killing the “main” antagonist. He goes to his grave stoically, with no one ever knowing what he sacrificed.

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      Say fix it in post 3 times. Then shoot clean plates and hope the studio has a vfx budget.

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          Some say that vfx editors and post houses within a 5 mile radius have a fire-department-esque alarm whenever it is muttered 3 times. They’ll show up to grab dailies, curse you for not figuring out a solution in pre-production, then begrudgingly fix the issues.

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      For the justification for no footprints, you could have it in the script that the one dying fell into place. Fighting atop a crane, in a helicopter, or whatever. Seems appropriate for the kind of film that would end with a nice shot like that anyway. For the practical side, simply catapult the actor into position.

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    Picture it, though: You’re a bad man and you know that one good deed won’t change that, even at the cost of your life - but maybe it’s enough to regain your soul. The wound doesn’t hurt any more and you know that’s a sign the end is coming but for the first time in years you feel at peace. Individual snowflakes are settling on your skin like chilly kisses as your eyelids get heavy.

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      What you mean by bad man? unless you’re committing war/ sex crimes… try therapy, drugs or changing your gender. It’s sad that people daydream about that but also kinda delusionally narcissistic, like in a way that could benefit from therapy or just talking to a single other person

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        I mean that bleeding out in the snow is a cinematic fate usually reserved for hardened killers who are fatally wounded in the process of redeeming themselves. The quiet of the scene reflects the silencing of their inner demons and they accept death with dignity and even a measure of grace.

        I dig well-executed tropes.

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    The lighting is wrong. Need either footlights like you would have on a flight of stairs or omnipresent lighting from an unknown source in the sky. 3/10 would not die here.

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    Screw that, I’m not bleeding out freezing.
    On the other hand it would make one metal snow angel.

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        TW (trigger warning) paragraph 2 (spoilered, but some instances don’t correctly spoiler)

        the thing of protagonist (usually not great) does something awesome and dies from it (haven’t watched blade runner)

        TW (Trigger warning)

        also when I said this, some dark thoughts were going through my head… yeah I’m ok, don’t worry. I originally thought it was something to do with said thoughts. I thought it meant they want to die. Sorry this turned dark really fast.


        have a great day

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          Yeah, you’re right about the protagonist doing something selfless before finding peace in the snow of a lonely but beautiful landscape.

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    It sounds cool to “bleed out”, but realistically lots of marginalized and oppressed people simply freeze to death due to the intentional deprivation of basic human needs.