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    I would read that horror story. Imagine unexpectedly facing eternity with The Spanish Inquisition, conquistadors, various other brutal imperialist forces and having it presented to you as a rare honor for a lifetime of Christian service. I imagine it like “The Good Place” except it isn’t a comedy.

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    Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. 13 “It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’[a] but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.

    Anyway put money in the basket for my jet

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    I’ve actually been told by a Christian that I act more like a Christian than some of the Christians they know after sharing with them how I am trying to put my Anarchist beliefs in action through practicing mutual aid and building my community. I hope they realize they can do the same thing and still be Christian. God doesn’t love the state and if He does, well…

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      there’s a reason i coalition build best with religious anarchists while myself being an agnostic. there’s actually a ton of radical political thought in theology if you can get away from a hierarchically programmed preacher long enough to study it yourself.

      there’s a song i love titled Owed to a Hypocrite about how the politician and the preacher walk down the road hand in hand oppressing all us regular people

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        there’s a reason i coalition build best with religious anarchists while myself being an agnostic.

        Very hard to be an anarchist and then recoil at a neighbor with superficial differences in belief. If you need homogeneity of thought for anarchism to function, but you reject a hierarchy of institution to enforce canonical doctrine, how is that even supposed to work?

        there’s actually a ton of radical political thought in theology if you can get away from a hierarchically programmed preacher long enough to study it yourself

        Sort of the secret sauce of the modern major religious movements. They are all, at their core, populist messages intended to appeal to wide audiences of working class people. The insular cults and sectarian country clubs do a great job of raising tons of money from a few gullible rubes. But they can’t stand the test of time without reforming back into popular theology.

        I would say that any serious student of religion or history really needs a teacher (ideally more than one). “Just do your own research” is fine on its face, but inevitably you run into contradictions and conundrums that the texts alone don’t illuminate. A great deal of the Old Testament is written as part of a rabbinical dialogue, with different books and chapters and even verses intentionally challenging one another in order to spur meditation and debate. And plenty of Leftist texts follow a similar trajectory.

        You don’t have to read Marx and Engels as somehow oppositional to Kropotkin, Bakunin, and Stirner. You don’t have to read Descartes as oppositional to Kant. All these philosophers can operate in dialogue with one another. Perhaps even in some kind of dialectic with one another.

        But it does help to hold a certain set of common beliefs.

        there’s a song i love titled Owed to a Hypocrite about how the politician and the preacher walk down the road hand in hand oppressing all us regular people

        My favorite line from Game of Thrones is the Sellsword Riddle. The answer you give to the riddle says a great deal about what you think of political power and who ultimately wields it. And the deeper you muse on it, the harder it is to unravel.

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    …Win?

    Jokes aside, if you don’t believe in god and end up going to heaven because you were actually a good person that would be a win in my book, but I would imagine the atheist in this event would be eternally upset that they were wrong in their actual premise. Joke is more funny if you ended up in a non-Christian afterlife.

    • LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml
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      I don’t think most atheists would hate to be proven wrong. Most don’t have an issue with other people believing either, unless they try to push their beliefs on other people.

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      I’m atheist who went through an agnostic phase earlier.

      So - as a thought experiment - let’s assume there is a god and heaven and a judgment day.

      There are two persons in front of the ultimate judge.

      One behaved “good” but just out of fear of ultimate judgement.

      The other one just he didn’t want to be an asshole out of his own wishes.

      Who’d pass?

      So I think god is irrelevant. Belief is irrelevant.

      Ultimately these ideas led me down the path of optimistic nihilism.

      And my most important rule for life: Just don’t be an asshole.

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    Ain’t happening, since belief in God is reiterated time and again as the main requirement for anyone to get any heaven time. Even Jesus was going “if you don’t believe my father and me, then get fucked”.

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      belief in God is reiterated time and again as the main requirement for anyone to get any heaven time.

      Reiterated by humans. I haven’t seen an official press release from god.

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    Just because you weren’t intellectually and/or emotionally competent enough to believe in the Creator doesn’t mean you didn’t act right and that He’d just disregard you. And certainly many of these hypocrites will taste Hell before righteous “nonbelievers”. 👍

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      Just because you weren’t intellectually and/or emotionally competent enough to believe in the Creator

      I always find it funny when believers think they have to be intellectually/emotionally more mature than non-believers when non-believers don’t need a spiritual crutch to get through life.

      You’re welcome to believe in a creator if that helps you get through the day, but don’t pretend you’re a better person because you believe in a god. Pretending it makes you more intellectually or emotionally competent actually tells people the opposite of what you think it does.

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          Everyone’s comes from within, cause there are no amount of words that would suddenly change human nature. The books just delineate and expand on basic, natural human morality. 👍

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            Everyone’s comes from within, cause there are no amount of words that would suddenly change human nature

            I’m going to assume you’ve never had a real conversation with (m)any Christians about this. Because plenty will end up telling you their morality is external, rather than internal.

            You have no idea how many times I’ve had this conversation and basically been told that they have no concept of where my morals would come from, because theirs comes from the Bible. I’ve even had conversations where Christians make comments about the shit they want to do but can’t because of their religious morality or gone out of their way to try to justify their actions in her eyes of their god. Their morality isn’t internal to them and their core beliefs, it’s an external pressure to behave properly for their religion/congregation.

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      you weren’t intellectually and/or emotionally competent enough to believe in the Creator

      That’s the funniest joke of 2025 lol
      Marianas Trench level of self-awareness

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        Oh no, trust me, I’ve walked both paths! But I know what’s my audience here so I won’t even complain about the reactions, lol.

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          If every religious person was like you we wouldn’t have so many problems in the world. You are right, you choice is your and mine is mine. We don’t try to change each other mind and are respectful of the others choice. 10/10 wishing everyone acted like that

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      That’s hilarious.

      It takes intellectual competence to believe in magic?

      The best argument I’ve ever heard for any god is “you can’t prove it didn’t happen this way.”

      But I’m sure you have better than that, right?

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      doesn’t mean He’d just disregard you

      It’s said many times both in the Old and the New testaments that whoever doesn’t believe, is totally fucked for eternity. Read your own main book.