cross-posted from: https://ibbit.at/post/127026

A leaked memo by U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi directs the Justice Department and FBI to compile a list of groups that may be labeled “domestic terrorism” organizations based on political views related to immigration, gender and U.S. policy. The memo was obtained by independent investigative journalist Ken Klippenstein, who joins us to discuss how it expands on President Donald Trump’s NSPM-7…

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    This is harder to type than it probably should be. Back in 2015, because of the way I was raised in an extreme conservative evangelical household as a preacher’s kid, I was a Republican. I had already broken with that world in every meaningful way, but I had not actually sat down and examined what I believed. So there I was, still actively involved in politics. I helped campaign for Romney. I made more than three thousand phone calls, which I am pretty sure qualifies as a minor war crime. I was on the election staff of a representative who, for the record, had not been elected yet when I worked for her. I was a special elector. I was on the county central committee. I worked every election since 2011 with an R behind my name.

    And then they picked the orange man. I wrote the Chairwoman a very long letter explaining, in polite terms, that this was not going to work for me. I switched my affiliation to Independent. Unfortunately, I still had not figured out where the world was heading, so I voted for Gary Johnson. The less said about that period of my life, the better.

    When the Senate Election Committee decided to finance Roy Moore, I walked directly to the courthouse, changed my registration to Democrat, and started working elections for that party instead. There is a point where a person realizes the boat is not just sinking, it was built upside down to begin with.

    Anyway, based on the tone of that old letter, I find myself hoping I ended up on a list somewhere for Pam Bondi. It would be nice to feel important for a moment. Besides, what a spectacular waste of resources it would be to track down one Army veteran who lives in an RV in the middle of nowhere.

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      Out of the current “R” brand spread, Romney at least had some character. I wouldn’t beat yourself up too bad about things you did many many years ago, reflection is hard, growing up is hard - you are a champion for being man enough and introspective enough to grow as a person. Also I enjoyed reading this, thank you for sharing.

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      Good on you. It takes courage to admit to something like that and to move in a direction you believe is right despite your upbringing. I’m in a situation with some similarities to yours, and while im still coming to terms with things and not ready to talk about it yet I want you to know that you posting your story and owning your mistakes is inspiring

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      I’m rewatching The X-Files at the moment, and it’s so weird to remember a time when people believed that government agencies were staffed by people smart enough to investigate or cover up alien conspiracies.

      It actually works as evidence against the theories that aliens have visited earth, because if it existed, Patel would have accidentally tweeted the Roswell autopsy video while eating his lunch on the toilet by now.

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        Right? I laugh now about “how organized and responsive” governments are portrayed. Hurricane Katrina was also a giveaway; but the last 10 years (especially the last year)? Gong show!

        Edit: If aliens showed now, ICE would just make them disappear if they couldn’t be monetized. I miss Mulder and Scully.

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        I personally suspect that if aliens actually did show up to earth, they wouldn’t be content to remain in the shadows.

        Basically, the native life is the only thing that would be of interest. we (that is life,) are the only things that are actually unique to this particular system. If it’s simple curiosity about things, they could study us from a distance, without ever revealing themselves to us (or the government.)

        Which leaves a few reasons for why they’d come here:

        • Genocidal freaks who have some biological or cultural imperative to kill everything that’s not them.
        • Space Mormons coming to share their faith.
        • Space evangelicals. They’re like Space Mormons, except turn into the first group when you politely decline.

        Either way… we’d know they’d be here.

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          I kind of feel like if aliens do exist and they can travel FTL and visit Earth, they probably also would belong to some organization that controls space travel and our planet would be marked as a no go zone.

          We are incredibly violent apex predators who have reshaped the very planet in our image with an unending thirst for resource consumption. I feel like aliens would not want to give us access to their tech because we are dangerous.

          That’s just my hunch though, in reality I have no idea. For all I know some space Mormons will show up and absolutely wreck our shit and enslave us. We’re smart enough we’d make good pets and/or work animals. Regardless, if aliens do show up and reveal themselves to us I hope they have kind intentions.

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          Theres also aliens that want to lock you in a zoo, aliens that want to rob you, aliens that want to assimilate you, and (assuming our biology is the only viable route for advanced life) refugees.

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            Pretty sure the prime directive says “if they’ve nuked themselves hundreds of times… DONOTGOTHERE!!!”

            (Of course they went there. What could go wrong?)

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    It’s funny because in the early 00s I worked for a gay rights organization and was told pretty flat out, the FBI keeps at least a list with my name on it, if not my own file (holdover from the civil rights era when they did this to all progressive groups). And then Obama came along and we thought a new era was being ushered in. And now in 2025 I run a gay nonprofit and probably have an FBI file again. Oh well, means I’m doing something right, fuck 'em.

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      got to admit, obama played us good. campaign of Hope and Change followed by 8 years of the same tired old playbook

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        My favorite thing about Lemmy is people are willing to make accurate criticisms about Obama and his policies instead of simping for him because he’s charasmatic and a Democrat.

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          There’s a weird disconnect between the left and the right where MAGA especially is so slavishly cultish that their guys can do no wrong. Whereas on the left, we generally have the critical thinking skills to admit that our guys aren’t always doing the right thing.

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            It really depends on what you consider a leftist. People on Reddit would call themselves “the left” and act like Obama is flawless and accuse you of being a maga if you feel otherwise.

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          annoying part is you can see they’re setting up the same shit with Newscom/Pritzker

          make some big publicity stunts on tv talking a big game, doing these cute little marches, all while greenlighting ICE to harass their surrounding poor neighborhoods long as they stay out of their donor neighborhoods

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            That depends on what one considers “the left”. Liberals call themselves leftists and a lot of them will defend him to the death.

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              Liberals only call themselves leftists because right-wingers tell them they are.

    • BonkTheAnnoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Thank you. Thanks for sharing this “seen that, didn’t care then, didn’t care now” attitude. This is the way you fight and dispell the stochastic terrorism behind this “leak.”

      Dance, be freaky, don’t let the man get in your head.

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          Almost certainly yes, at least based on historical precedent, though Trump loves ignoring that.

          For example, Watts v. United States, where someone said:

          “They always holler at us to get an education. And now I have already received my draft classification as 1-A and I have got to report for my physical this Monday coming. I am not going. If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L. B. J.”

          He was originally convicted, but that was then reversed, as the Supreme Court stated:

          “We agree with petitioner that his only offense here was ‘a kind of very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the president.’ Taken in context, and regarding the expressly conditional nature of the statement and the reaction of the listeners, we do not see how it could be interpreted otherwise.”

          At the end of the day, the law only really states that you have to:

          1. Make a threat
          2. …That threatens you taking the life of, kidnapping, or inflicting bodily harm upon the president

          So let’s say I say “I am going to kill the President” not as an example, but as an actual statement. That could be interpreted as an actual threat. However, If I am a 13 year old kid with just $20 to my name, no access to a gun, and no means of transport to even get near the president, it would be hard for the government to argue that’s not just a joke, or political hyperbole, as it was in the case of Watts v. United States.

          Given that all of those would be a threat for you to do something, and not just you wishing he was dead by any other means, it’s quite likely that any court would determine you saying something like “I hope Donald Trump dies a horrible, agonizing, painful death,” or even something like “I hope someone else shoots the president” would probably be considered AOK, and again, just political hyperbole, or statements without any material threat behind them.

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    Fox News host Tucker Carlson said in a text message after the 2020 election that he “passionately hated” Donald Trump, according to new court filings. - BBC

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Mitch McConnell said after the 2020 election that then-President Donald Trump was “stupid as well as being ill-tempered,” a “despicable human being” and a “narcissist,” according to excerpts from a new biography of the Senate Republican leader that will be released this month.

    Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.

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    Fuck off fascists. You gonna arrest 70% of this country??? Even your own “side” is turning on you. “My groceries are too high.” <-- that is anti-PEDOnald. “I don’t like child rapists.” <— that is anti-PEDOnald.

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    This pathetic POS needs to face the harshest punishment allowed for what he has not only done to little kids but to the entire world.

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    Can I report myself? Is there a limit?

    I feel like this could be a revival of the Reddit Area 51 fun run. “They can’t take all of us!”

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    So, the “transgender ideology” is domestic extremism reportable to the FBI? Does that mean someone could collect on the bounty if they name transgender neighbors or family to the FBI? What happens to the named person? They sent to a internment deportation camp?

    What if we just set up a ghetto for the undesirables to be relocated to?

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      If you snitch on a transgender person you’re admitting the existence of transgender people. To the camps with you!

      It’s sickening how this regime is persecuting trans people.