• thoro@lemmy.ml
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    Is this the new Hasbara talking point being pushed by Israel PR? First that Obama speechwriter says it and now Hillary

  • Doorbook@lemmy.world
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    So it seems like she is trying to secure as much money as she can because she knows her political career is gone in time of: Maga, America First, and Progressive Democrat. So she is going to be a mouth piece for Israel and get a salary.

  • Taldan@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    This kind of thing is why she loat an election to Donald Trump of all people. She had the easiest race in history, but failed because she is a deeply unlikable shill

  • mostNONheinous@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Honestly if the Clinton’s (Hillary specifically) could just shut the fuck up forever we would all be better off.

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      Well not so fast - I wanna hear from bubba on whether orange mussolini gives toothy head or not

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      A-fucking-men to that.

      These fucking over-privileged cunts have already screwed us so badly it’ll take decades to recover if we even can at this point. They both need to shut up and get the fuck out.

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    I’m not so much pro-Palestine as anti-Israel if that makes sense. I realize the conflict is complex and they’ve all been horrible to each other for as long as anyone can remember, but Israel’s bullshit has gone too far. It’s inevitable to side with the Palestinians who have to live in terror every single day.

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      Calling it complex only serves Israeli agenda.

      The issue is simple - No amount of complexity justifies a genocide.

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        Saying the history isn’t complex is just stupid though. You can identify that the history is complex without taking away from the fact that there’s a genocide going on.

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          I can concede that the conflict can present “complex” at first glance due to some Palestinians taking arms and themselves doing some heinous acts.

          But this is all downstream of an illegal occupation by Israel. This conflict really isn’t that complex. End the illegal occupation, then you can reasonably expect violent resistance to die down and to talk your way through it.

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        I agree with you, but I think you’re taking one idea to leverage another to arrive at a conclusion that I’m not promoting. The other commenters seem to have interpreted well what I’m trying to say.

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        No, you can acknowledge that complexity of the conflict and history without condoning Israel’s actions.

        Discouraging people from appreciating nuance and encouraging them to think about a complex problem simplistically (as you are doing) is what tends to serve an agenda.

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      Nah those buildings just uh all fell down by themselves . Total coincidence.

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      They’re going to have to fix that for US users, like the Bay of America

      • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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        Excuse me, it’s the Gulf of America! And don’t you forget it!

        salutes the flag, dramatic music plays, fireworks go off, and everyone claps as a single tear falls from my patriotic eye