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Me : I’d like a black coffee please
USA : And how much whipped cream and sugar would you like with that?I know this is a joke but if you ask for black coffee or unsweet tea, you will get what you are expecting in most cases. They may ask as a courtesy if you want sweeteners or creamers with that because many people wish to sweeten their drinks themselves as they may prefer artificial sweeteners or wish to control their dairy or sugar intake for dietary reasons.
When they reach for the 16oz paper cup after i order a cortado…
I always used to get “should we leave room at the top for cream or sugar?” It makes sense since at that spot the cream and sugar are off to the side to be added by the customer. And black coffee was used to differentiate from the various flavored or specialty jawns.
But it always made me giggle that the simplest order in coffee needed clarification.
jawns
I’m a native English speaker and had never seen this one before. Apparently only used in eastern Pennsylvania
lol eastern pennsylvania. Its from philly.
Just ask for an Americano, and you’ll get a watered-down espresso that’s almost an American ‘small’!
Europeans don’t tolerate shit cheap robusto coffee. The brown sour water Americans drink is the typical quantity over quality model.
Americans mostly drink Arábica beans. The only Robusta coffee out here is in Vietnamese style coffee filled with a ton of condensed milk.
Nonsense. Dunkin donuts, every office coffee maker, and most fast food coffee is robusta. That’s why people kill the taste with sugar and fat.
No?
We work with local coffee farms to grow our coffee, using only 100 percent Arabica coffee beans and the highest quality coffee available.
some of the cheap stuff like maxwell house is a mix of arabica and robusto.
You know that America basically invented modern coffee culture that exists everywhere else now, right? We’re well beyond truck stop diner coffee.
Hell, even Mr Coffee was a great improvement for its time.
Edit: the next European who posts “you need to learn about other countries” while also thinking Starbucks is the only thing the US does for coffee gets . . . I dunno, maybe a gif of a cat falling off a fence.
Lol whut? Espresso, Cappuccino and Latte macchiato are Italian,
Drip filter coffee was invented in Germany as well as decaf Cold brew is Duch/Japanese Boiled Coffee is from the Middle East/North Africa Irish Coffee is from Ireland, but similar drinks are known with different names and different spirits at leas in France and Germany. The French Press is from France, first patented by an Italian
Instant Coffee from New Zealand Frappé is from Greece Iced coffee is from AlgeriaYou Americans might have invented abominations like Starbucks, but that’s not coffee culture worldwide. Noone I know drinks that stuff. There are somewhere around 100,000 and coffee bars in Italy alone, 31 of which are Starbucks built for American tourists. (Maybe it’s 35 by now). There are 10 times more traditional Cafés in Berlin alone, than Starbucks in all of Germany.
Americans did invent ruining coffee, though!
Lol whut? Espresso, in particular, has been heavily developed over the past few decades with a greater understanding of things like water temperature and channeling. A lot of that started with American baristas.
Starbucks is what started it. It didn’t finish there.
Espresso, in particular, has been heavily developed over the past few decades with a greater understanding of things like water temperature and channeling.
dude…see the world, there is an entire industry of coffee machines in Italy since the 1920s. A hundred years ago. Starbucks was and is second rate shit for suburban moms.
Americans just turned coffee into hot desserts.
I’m not even talking about Starbucks beyond them starting the second wave. Travel yourself. American coffee does not end with Starbucks.
If you’re going to continue that strawman, then there’s nothing left to discuss.
I just read about the “second wave” for the first time, and allegedly it was Starbucks’ idea to “transform coffee consumption into a social event instead of just consumption of coffee”.
But I can guarantee you, that that’s a purely American view, as coffee consumption has been a social event long before in the rest of the world. Fika in Sweden was a thing since the 19th century. Sospreso has been a thing in Italy a century before Starbucks copied it. I don’t know since when Kaffe und Kuchen is a thing in Germany, but my Gradma told me how her Grandma used to put out the white table cloth only for the Sunday Koffee. And she was long dead when Starbucks got their Idea of serving pastries with coffee. Austria got their first Kaffeehaus a century before the USA even existed. In Mecca, coffee houses were banned from 1512-1524 as they were too sociable for the imams who feard the politicization of the coffee drinkers.
And don’t get me started on the “third wave”, a marketing term coined by some hipsters in Los Angeles or New York to sell overpriced “specialty” coffee to other hipsters from San Francisco or Boston.
And I assure you, there’s more to it than just building a coffee chain.
Which is a shame, because coffee should be a desert flavoring, and Starbucks is still trash.
Bro please stop. You are absolutely 100% wrong and have no idea what you are talking about. Just accept it as a an opportunity for uncovering some of the bullshit propaganda your patriot bubble creates.
Wait I was about to downvote you because it sounds like something that an AI would hallucinate but actually TIL that espresso drinks (not espresso) were actually modified and popularized by starbucks and peets and their versions, and not the Italian versions, are the ones that are most popular through the world
the fuck are you on about? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espresso
The world doesn’t revolve around the fucknited states of no healthcare
Just stop. You’re not getting the nuance at all.
ironic, since there is very little nuance to the whippedcream “coffecintos” that starfucks serves
I really hate that we have to filter everything through “is this post just AI?”.
Edit: and when I said “Starbucks is what started it”, I was thinking more along the lines of Second Wave Coffee and how that’s led into everything else since, not just espresso. Starbucks isn’t considered top quality even in the US, but they should get credit for moving things along.
My personal favorite coffee shop, the one that makes absolutely stellar espresso, is from a guy who started it in a friend’s skateboard shop.
You know that America basically invented modern coffee culture that exists everywhere else now, right?
What language do you think espresso, cappucino, americano, latte, venti, etc. is?
You’re stuck on the original origin. That’s not where things have ended up. Espresso around the world is nothing like what it was in 19th century Italy. It’s not even what it was like in the late 20th century.
Do americans actually believe this shit or are you trolling?
I mean, Americans also believe they invented pizza, cars or putting meat into a breadroll.
Yeah, I’ve had someone make similar arguments with pizza before. Beats me
Oh, and btw. Mr Coffee was not an improvement, it was a copy of a device invented in Germany 20 years before, perfected by the Danish company EVA. Mr Coffee is unknown outside of North America because these devices already existed in the rest of the world.
Copying stuff from somewhere else is not a problem. China does it all the time and it’s fine. The problem with the Yanks is, that after copying stuff, they make it worse and afterwards claim they’ve invented it.
What made Mr Coffee unique wasn’t being the first drip machine. Its design was extremely cheap AND reliable. There’s a reason the design is still the most popular today.
Nothing else comes close.
Mr Coffee was not extremely cheap outside of America, it doesn’t even exist outside of America because the problem it solves was already solved by other companies outside of America.
I understand that it might have been a great improvement for the American coffee drinkers (I don’t know, I’ve never heard of Mr Coffee until yesterday because I’m not American), but it did nothing to influence “coffee culture everywhere else” as the OP boldly claims, because everywhere else is outside of America!
“you” may not have, but all your drip machines use it’s designs… Have a good day!
Who’s design again?
The Melitta machine cost 120 DM in 1965 which is ~270€ today, the Mr Coffee cost 40$ in 1972, which is ~270€ today. It wasn’t even cheaper, just later.
Italian coffee snob here. Even Starbucks coffee isn’t bad. They have a lot of stuff on the menu that frankly leaves me with more questions than answers, but you don’t have to order that. The filter coffee is way, way better than the average.
While I would recommend both learning about other countries as a general principle, and sending me a GIF of a cat, I’m finding it hard to come down on American coffee while living on a continent than thinks French coffee or German coffee is perfectly fine.
Yeah but it has 400mg of caffeine.
Ask for the same in America and you get a 2 liter cup.
With mostly sugar in it
Then you got the good stuff, otherwise it’ll be high fructose corn syrup
Liter? That’s a quarter gallon or something.
And it’s like 80% milk.
No, it’s 40% milk, and 40% corn syrup.
Unless it’s soft drink, right?
Side note on American metrification:
I do enjoy that the online calorie/macro counting scene in the US seems to be using grams now.
Wait until they realise they can do g protein/100g instead of per serve or cup, or hogshead.
One day you bastards, one day…
Here ya go! I sanitized the blue checkmark Nazi platform from the meme. Now it’s shareable.
The thing is you have one of those every twenty minutes all day between cigarettes.
I drink a giant travel mug of black coffee every day. I have no excuse. It’s my only joy.
You should try sex and drugs.
They’re clearly already doing drugs
Yes but good drugs!
Weed really mellows out the caffeine jitters but it can make you a bit sluggish so better fill up that coffee cup.
For mellowing out caffeine, I recommend l-Theanine and CBD.
Mid thirties. The sex would have to be mind blowing to replace even gas station swill at this point. Drugs it just depends, I need my brain for work.
That sounds like it’s not your joy, it’s the drugs you take to meet the unhealthy inhuman standards set by your shitty coercive masters.
Well I like my job, so no one has to twist my arm to do it. And I like the way coffee tastes. I like the texture. I like the warmth. As long as it’s a dark roast. Who knows? :)
Okay, so you’d still do coffee in post-scarcity?
I still recommend sex and real drugs for pleasure.
Perhaps use SI units instead of “small, medium, large”
One queen size coffee please
And it will be infinitely more tastyl then the swill I get in a dinner from the pot that has been stewing for hours…
That’s because “A Coffee” means ‘an espresso’, as my Portuguese friend told me. She also told me that “Lemonade” doesn’t mean sprite like it does in the UK, much to my dismay when I asked for one in a restaurant.
Don’t know where you went, but Lemonade doesn’t mean Sprite in the UK.
…Yes it does, Sprite, Schweppes, even the own-brand stuff you get in the shops is all called Lemonade colloquially.
It definitely does. In all my years ordering vodka lemonades I’ve always gotten a Sprite, Schweppes or R White.
I feel like you don’t know what real lemonade is because yeah you always get sprite or whites, if they think they’re being posh they’ll give you whites, which tastes exactly the same as Sprite so I don’t know what the point is.
In the states, Sprite is a carbonated mildly lemon tasting soda pop. Lemonade is squeezed lemon and sugar, and maybe with something else like Strawberry, but fairly tart. And no carbonation, unless it’s specifically made with Seltzer or something. Or spoiled.
A cortado is 4 OUNCES. I even made it American.
Europe is not uniform in this, as per usual. This is what you’ll get in southern Europe. In central Europe, you’ll get a really big one though.
which is why i order by volume or weight.
No no, he’s got a point!
