Ideally, I’d love for Dems to just start taking credit for everything MAGA brags about. Since apparently the Republicans aren’t in charge.
Maybe you should swear in the Democrat that Arizona elected, Mike? Since they are required.
Democrats are the ones in control and yet a Democrat is not sworn into her elected duty blocked by republicans.
Tired of these hypocrite they’ve crossed the line into blatant liars.
“The enemy is both dangerously strong and exceptionally weak at the same time.”
This is a thing that fascists say. The Trump admin and the Project 2025 people ARE fascists so that tracks
One of the double speaks an authoritarian spokesperson has to perform is the opposition is both strong and weak at the same time. Strong, so they can be blamed for anything that goes wrong, and to stoke fears in the faithful, and weak because no one is allowed to be stronger than the authority.
Isn’t that weak so they can’t be blamed for what goes wrong and strong because they are the absolute authority?
Oh no, they don’t ever see themselves as weak.
Their opponents are simultaneously strong and weak
Obviously you are imagining things the only things the Republicans have is a majority in the House and Senate, the support of the supreme Court, the White House and the richest man in the world and most oligarchs. Oh and some really crazy fascist MAGA cultists. It’s practically nothing and these crazy people act like they run the government. I mean really.
Everything is fine.
And the Democrats have also made abundantly clear what the Republicans have to do in order to get their votes.
For the unaware, the Democrat leadership are asking that the rate hikes for US health insurance are reversed, some individual US senators might have slightly different demands but the GOP need 7 more votes to pass a budget resolution.
See this is what I don’t understand. They need 7 more votes to enter a continuence, not a budget. If they wanted to re-open the government they could have actually wrote a budget, and reconciled that budget, using only 51 votes for all the portions closed down… then argued about the portions they can’t get passed (cutting health care). There is nothing that the Democrats can do to block an actual budget reconciliation being done.
Stop kicking the can down the road with a “continuence” and draw up a budget. This whole thing seems to me like they can’t get Republicans to agree on a budget, to get 51 votes
Theres a distinction between a “fiscal budget” and a “spending bill” I guess.
The fiscal budget for the year has already been decided. There is no Fiscal Budget 2: Skidaddle Rougarou.
Both can be reconciled. Continuences can’t be. Aka, they haven’t made an finalized measure for this, and thus keep kicking it forward with continuences
Is there precedent for that?
SNAP, Medicare, Medicade, are all funded through standard budgets as far as I know. So precedent would be the Inflation Reduction Act.
That passed through reconciliation August 2022. I don’t see how SNAP or Medical budgets could be stopped right now without having undergone a budget change.
You’re right…
Maybe the GOP can’t pass the Byrd test, lmao. Like an addict can’t piss clean, a Republican can’t lower the budget expenditure.
No idea what any of this means. Rate hikes good or bad?
A rate hike for the health care insurance means your monthly health care insurance costs will increase.
It’s up to you to decide if that’s good or bad.
Ok that makes sense
People actually will lose cover, because the rates are going up in the order of 100% or more, for low income people. It’s not a small increase. Many will not be able to afford it, so, effectively, the GOP are removing the healthcare from 10-20 million people…
Are poor people even considered people?
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Has any leftist attempted to create engagement with these people to inform them?
Like if I gave you ten minutes, could you get maybe 5 pieces of shareable content that addresses any of this. Now articles or opinions pieces. Like a random marvel Facebook group that actually posts political memes all day
It means people have to pay more in order to get healthcare. So, definitely bad.
The DNC are trying to prevent that bad situation from worsening.
Hey, average web surfer here. I just want you all to know that I see posts like this and it is the message that I’m left with. I actually don’t know what the democrats or even people on the left are saying about this. I just see these posts. I think democrats are the reason the shut down is happening
Their reason for voting against the funding bill has been quite clearly stated on platforms and news programs everywhere. Even searching “why are democrats voting against reopening the government” will get you a fairly decent answer. They haven’t changed the answer in the past three weeks, or hidden their demands, or anything like that.
I’d recommend you get in the habit of looking stuff like that up before you’ve made up your mind about something, because it’s a really helpful life skill for an “average web surfer.” Deciding what your opinion is before you have all the facts just means that you’re letting someone else think for you.
So you don’t actually know anything, but you think the Democrats are the reason.
Fucking typical. I think people like you are the reason the government is shut down.
You could of course read a news paper article or two on this, as an average web surfer, rather than trust a random Lemmy user to provide you an answer. Open up NYT, US Today, Washington Post or any of the other news sites there are out there. (And with that, I would advise you to avoid Fox News, as that’s not a news source, but rage bait source)
😆 you really don’t get it. I could read it but me and millions of others aren’t going to. But we vote. Right now I see a lot of very impressive pictures and headlines and shorts telling me Democrats caused this. Also that leftist really are dense and ineffective. On the other side are guys like you saying I’m stupid and just Google it. I’m not going to be the way. You’ll have to live with that. You could produce content to engage me like the right does which if there is enough content it could sway opinions slowly over time. But you won’t. You’ll call me an idiot. Cause you’re smart. So smart. Keep doing what you’re doing. Stay informed with your nice little group. With a little propaganda machine at all your fingertips with tools that act like force multipliers such as AI, you guys just keep not doing any of the stuff that historically worked to swing voters, instead get people to drive miles to random cities and stand around for the day then go home. So my point is I’m not reading shit little probably didn’t read this ramble which is my point. But you’ll look at and give it a few seconds at least. Again which is my point. Hopefully you understand now. The people to sway the country back is not you or your fellow lefty political article readers. It’s me, average guy. Just looking at things and moving on.
I could read it but me and millions of others aren’t going to. But we vote.
You probably shouldn’t, if you refuse to be informed. You’re going to be talked into making decisions based on all manner of misinformation from sources foreign and domestic. You’re going to form opinions based on lies, rumors, and propaganda. You’re essentially saying that your vote is for sale to whoever pays Mark Zuckerberg enough money. Honestly, if you’re going to commit election fraud, at least insist that they pay you.
Right now I see a lot of very impressive pictures and headlines and shorts telling me Democrats caused this.
That’s not because the content doesn’t exist on the left. There are tens of thousands of liberal and leftist creators making content and putting it out there; in fact there are probably more leftward leaning creators making political content than rightward-leaning creators. You’re just being targeted by algorithms and ads; maybe because that’s the sort of thing you’ve clicked before, or maybe because you’re in a demographic that’s traditionally sympathetic to right-wing talking points. In either case, you’re letting billionaires sell your opinion off to the highest bidder, for their own profit.
On the other side are guys like you saying I’m stupid and just Google it.
I’m not saying you’re stupid. I’m saying that you’re making choices that are going to harm you in the long run, because you’re refusing to do the bare minimum to stay informed.
[just Google it.] I’m not going to [by] the way. You’ll have to live with that.
No, you’re going to have to live with that. You’re not helping yourself out there. It’s like sitting in a burning car and saying “I’m not going to open the car door myself. You’ll have to live with that.” Honestly, I don’t love the idea of someone dying who doesn’t have to, but between the two of us, you are the one who is more harmed by your intentional ignorance. (I don’t use the word “ignorance” in an insulting way here. You’re being ignorant, in the sense that you’re ignoring current events.)
Yes, in a sense we’re all locked in the car with you until you agree to open the door, but I’m not even going there at this point. You making hostage demands about your media diet strikes me as something you thought was a good idea when you wrote it, but it’s really not.
You could produce content to engage me like the right does which if there is enough content it could sway opinions slowly over time.
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No, I couldn’t. I’m a software engineer, not a journalist.
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Tens of thousands of actual journalists are. You’re not being served their content, and because you’ve insisted on not going out of your way to find it, you’re never going to see it.
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It isn’t our responsibility to make you a responsible citizen.
Cause you’re smart. So smart. Keep doing what you’re doing. Stay informed with your nice little group.
You know why we’re informed, right? It’s because it only takes a very tiny amount of effort to be, and we’re willing to expend that effort. If you’re not, you’re going to be expending more effort in the long run as people take advantage of your willful ignorance to take things from you.
With a little propaganda machine at all your fingertips […]
So you recognize that it’s a propaganda machine, and you’re fine with it? “I know that the food machine is shoveling straight manure into my mouth, but the real problem is the people who went and found a burger to eat because instead of bringing me a burger they’re telling me to close my mouth!”
[…] with tools that act like force multipliers such as AI,
AI isn’t a force multiplier. I say this as someone who works with it all the time on a technical level in my job. It’s a convenience tool at best. At worst, it makes stuff take longer.
you guys just keep not doing any of the stuff that historically worked to swing voters, instead get people to drive miles to random cities and stand around for the day then go home.
Historically, what swings voters and changes opinions is talking to people with whom you have (1) mutual trust and respect, (2) who have a baseline understanding of current events, (3) in person. Not AI or social media or anything like that. All of that stuff can inform, but if you’re being served everything but reality from the algorithm, you aren’t going to be getting information either.
As for protests…huh? They worked amazingly well during the Civil Rights movement.
So my point is I’m not reading shit little probably didn’t read this ramble which is my point.
I did.
But you’ll look at and give it a few seconds at least. Again which is my point. Hopefully you understand now. The people to sway the country back is not you or your fellow lefty political article readers. It’s me, average guy. Just looking at things and moving on.
Maybe. But hopefully it’ll be people who don’t intentionally avoid doing whatever they can to actually learn about current events, as you seem dead-set on doing right now.
I didn’t read any of that but I can tell you I’m not the one uninformed or delusional here. You need to understand that and why it’s important
wOrD hArD. iS oK. 👌👌💯🍆💦🍑🥵👉👌🙏🙏💯💪
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It’s over your head anyways
I didn’t read any of that
Then you are not qualified to comment on it. This is basic courtesy stuff. Do you also not return the cart after grocery shopping?
I’m willing to bet they let someone else do the groceries for them. That’s seems to be more in line with their rapport.
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It’s your responsibility and your civic duty to stay informed, but if you’re unwilling, and just want to eat propaganda slop, then it’s not up to us to educate you. So shrug you do you.
Here’s something to explode your noggin. I’m not a US citizen, I don’t even live in the USA, and I’m better informed about what’s happening in your country than you. And that’s not because I’m some lefty political article reader. I read articles on all sides.
And would you have said to Doctor King that his Million Man March was pointless?
Your self confessed low information diet, and refusal to correct that, just means you vote for policies and people that don’t actually help you, or you don’t vote, which has the same effect. You hurt yourself and the people you love, but right wingnuts don’t seem to mind that… It’s crazy to me that there are people trying to rule every important aspect of your life, including what healthcare you and your family can have, and how much tax you pay, and whether you get sent into war, but you don’t care enough to do more than look at pictures. This has to be one definition of insanity tbh.
Yea almost like most voters that matter are the same way. So why are you still trying to wrap your head around that. Trump knew from day one. But you probably called him an idiot and chuckled because his message seemed silly. He ran circles around all of us. Years later it still seems nobody on the left can even figure out this basic concept
Do you just look at pictures, and never read anything?
Nope
I am left wondering if you are a bot?
No but just a guy that’s frustrated with how messaging on the left is non existent. Like ya call me dumb because I don’t know. I’m not reading articles all day. Just looking at pictures. The right figured it out that you need to engage at this level. The left will ignore human nature. One side is succeeding and one is failing. We have Nazis publicly being Nazis with no shame. Just saying
The right figured it out that you need to engage at this level.
Of course you mean they have to pander and lie right?
Sure, one man’s lie is another’s truth. We have to engage. But we don’t. Maybe we don’t by design.
Sure, one man’s lie is another’s truth.
It’s not. There is the truth and then there is lies and omissions.
We have to engage.
Nope, we’ve tried that. Tell them to get fucked and kill them with shear numbers of voters.
Maybe we don’t by design.
I mean maybe but it doesn’t really matter.
You haven’t engaged in anything. You’re literally the “we’ve done nothing and we’re out of ideas” meme.
And truth is subjective. Always. Especially in politics.
The Democrats are asking for the following:
- Extension & expansion of health-care subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (ACA). This was set to expire at the end of 2025, and would drive up insurance costs for millions of low-income and middle class families if not subsidized.
- Reversal or protection against Republican-led cuts in Medicaid / other health programs. The BBB removed a lot of people from Medicade coverage, they want to prevent it from getting worse and guarantee protection for US citizens.
- A meaningful say in any continuing resolution (CR) or stop-gap that reopens the government.
Essentially, Republicans are trying to ram through legislation that fuck over a lot of people. Democrats are trying to prevent a lot of people from being fucked over, and have essentially told Republicans that you need to work with us on these things…like, you know, a functional government is supposed to do.
The reason you see simple messaging from the right and not the left, is because lies are simple. If you’re just making shit up, you can make it as simple and meme-worthy as you want, it doesn’t matter. The truth is always more complicated, so if you want to tell the truth, you have to explain in something other than memes and simplistic pictures like this one. You need articles, or at least a paragraph or two of explaining, which means reading.
I’m not reading articles all day. Just looking at pictures.
You don’t even need to read an entire article. Most reasonable news sources put it in a quick info box for you. Or you could pull up a democratic senator’s Bluesky or Mastodon account and see what they’ve posted about why they voted against it. There’s probably info on Tiktok and Instagram, too.
In this modern world, the issue is never that the information isn’t available; just that you didn’t look for it.
Correct. I don’t. Millions of swing voters do not. So where do you fit into that equation? Is Bill Clinton supposed to do all the work
Your passionate defense of laziness aside, the fact that you’re unable to think of a single Democrat other than Bill Clinton is…well, it sure is something.
Do I read this right? You’re saying “the right is winning because they’re posting clickbait bullshit (technical term here, not just a sloppy swear) consumed in memes or tiktok-style videos”?
Aren’t you terrified that’s the life so many (and I think you’re putting yourself in this camp as well) are choosing to live?
💯 that is a major reason that they’re winning.
When people say ‘well they’re just more funded duh’ what they’re not addressing is all that funding is to create shit posts and media to engage their base. All that funding goes into producing images of chickens throwing snowballs asking if climate change was real then why is it snowing in July. We are basic simple creatures as a group.
It doesn’t matter what I think because this is what the world is. The left is failing to accept it and that’s why we’re losing.
Check this out. How much of the likes and shares and comments do you think are bots? Notice any patterns? Patterns are important because you can rewire people’s brains and opinions through repetition.
Republicans have never demonstrated the ability to govern in my life time.
MAGA doesn’t care about reality, all they care about is hating those that aren’t them.
Please please can we stop trying to catch their lies? ALL THEY EVER DO IS LIE. It’s not a gotcha. It’s pointless. Their people don’t care and we all know they are full of shit. You can’t beat a fascist in discourse.
It’s not just important to discourse. It’s important to know when they’re lying, even if that is always, and more importantly, what the truth is. You cannot let only their narrative exist
Yes, plus, it’s not the people who already know they constantly lie that they are trying to convince. It’s the people who don’t pay a lot of attention and occasionally get something. They’re trying to tell that person that Democrats are doing this for them.
It’s important to know when they’re lying
Is their mouth open? Then they’re lying.
Documenting all of it is really important, even though it’s fucking exhausting.
Ultimately it isn’t really for fascists or the willfully ignorant to be swayed; it’s so that in the future humanity is able to review and learn lessons to improve upon the past.
I hope.
This is kinda why I’m just tempted to purge some of my socials. It’s just non fucking stop. I already spent a decade listening to TFG bullshit every week when he was president the first time and even when he lost the second time, the news still covered his pathetic ass constantly. I wanna be informed don’t get me wrong, but so much of this news is just noise.
I know how I’m voting, not that we can simply vote fascism out, so what the fuck is the point of destroying my mental health every single day just to hear what trump said or what bullshit the GOP is doing in Texas or Tennessee. I’m losing my mind and all I’m trying to do is survive and I can’t even do that. All this fucking wonderful technology and I’m freaking miserable. Sigh, sorry for the rant brother.
Did the democrats make you go to Grindr too Mike?
I honestly don’t like this. While there are Republicans who are closeted, there’s no evidence Johnson is one of them and the creepy shit we do know makes him seem even straighter.
Their display looks like a high school civics class project.
MAGA believes whatever they’re told most recently, just like Trump. My Nextdoor app feed proves this to me.
Ideally, I’d love for Dems to just start taking credit for everything MAGA brags about. Since apparently the Republicans aren’t in charge.
Well, not so nice this day without a spine.
If the Dems were in charge, they’d have sworn in the representative-elect from Arizona that he refuses to by now.
It would make sense, wouldn’t it? It would be hilarious to see how fast the entire Republican party would spin if Democrats started taking credit for all the terrible shit Republicans have done with their power.
Oh my God that would be genius lmao. Also no way it could backfire
I know you’re being sarcastic. It would absolutely destroy their chances of ever holding office, but if Dems don’t win the midterms, that’s it. They may as well close up the Party HQs, retire from politics and IDK, take up knitting or something.
The Republicans have done nothing good. Every true thing they brag about is absolutely evil and repulsive. They brag about things that are verifiably untrue that are good, but the Dems would be better served tearing down those lies.
AOC or Jasmine Crocket should go “Cool, if you are not in charge then I nominate myself for Speaker of the House”.
their words mean nothing because they are all lies. only their actions matter. we shouldn’t waste energy discussing their worthless words.
Adelita Grijalva - learn that name, people.
If any Democrat is controlling government, it’s Adelita Grijalva. Now hand the keys, Mike.
Mike Johnson wants to kiss boys and he’s real mad about it
If his texts are any indication, he wants to do more than kiss, and has done so on many occasions.
And he hates those who want to wear dresses cause who wants to kiss boys who look like girls?
