Ideally, I’d love for Dems to just start taking credit for everything MAGA brags about. Since apparently the Republicans aren’t in charge.
Ideally, I’d love for Dems to just start taking credit for everything MAGA brags about. Since apparently the Republicans aren’t in charge.
Hey, average web surfer here. I just want you all to know that I see posts like this and it is the message that I’m left with. I actually don’t know what the democrats or even people on the left are saying about this. I just see these posts. I think democrats are the reason the shut down is happening
Their reason for voting against the funding bill has been quite clearly stated on platforms and news programs everywhere. Even searching “why are democrats voting against reopening the government” will get you a fairly decent answer. They haven’t changed the answer in the past three weeks, or hidden their demands, or anything like that.
I’d recommend you get in the habit of looking stuff like that up before you’ve made up your mind about something, because it’s a really helpful life skill for an “average web surfer.” Deciding what your opinion is before you have all the facts just means that you’re letting someone else think for you.
So you don’t actually know anything, but you think the Democrats are the reason.
Fucking typical. I think people like you are the reason the government is shut down.
You could of course read a news paper article or two on this, as an average web surfer, rather than trust a random Lemmy user to provide you an answer. Open up NYT, US Today, Washington Post or any of the other news sites there are out there. (And with that, I would advise you to avoid Fox News, as that’s not a news source, but rage bait source)
😆 you really don’t get it. I could read it but me and millions of others aren’t going to. But we vote. Right now I see a lot of very impressive pictures and headlines and shorts telling me Democrats caused this. Also that leftist really are dense and ineffective. On the other side are guys like you saying I’m stupid and just Google it. I’m not going to be the way. You’ll have to live with that. You could produce content to engage me like the right does which if there is enough content it could sway opinions slowly over time. But you won’t. You’ll call me an idiot. Cause you’re smart. So smart. Keep doing what you’re doing. Stay informed with your nice little group. With a little propaganda machine at all your fingertips with tools that act like force multipliers such as AI, you guys just keep not doing any of the stuff that historically worked to swing voters, instead get people to drive miles to random cities and stand around for the day then go home. So my point is I’m not reading shit little probably didn’t read this ramble which is my point. But you’ll look at and give it a few seconds at least. Again which is my point. Hopefully you understand now. The people to sway the country back is not you or your fellow lefty political article readers. It’s me, average guy. Just looking at things and moving on.
You probably shouldn’t, if you refuse to be informed. You’re going to be talked into making decisions based on all manner of misinformation from sources foreign and domestic. You’re going to form opinions based on lies, rumors, and propaganda. You’re essentially saying that your vote is for sale to whoever pays Mark Zuckerberg enough money. Honestly, if you’re going to commit election fraud, at least insist that they pay you.
That’s not because the content doesn’t exist on the left. There are tens of thousands of liberal and leftist creators making content and putting it out there; in fact there are probably more leftward leaning creators making political content than rightward-leaning creators. You’re just being targeted by algorithms and ads; maybe because that’s the sort of thing you’ve clicked before, or maybe because you’re in a demographic that’s traditionally sympathetic to right-wing talking points. In either case, you’re letting billionaires sell your opinion off to the highest bidder, for their own profit.
I’m not saying you’re stupid. I’m saying that you’re making choices that are going to harm you in the long run, because you’re refusing to do the bare minimum to stay informed.
No, you’re going to have to live with that. You’re not helping yourself out there. It’s like sitting in a burning car and saying “I’m not going to open the car door myself. You’ll have to live with that.” Honestly, I don’t love the idea of someone dying who doesn’t have to, but between the two of us, you are the one who is more harmed by your intentional ignorance. (I don’t use the word “ignorance” in an insulting way here. You’re being ignorant, in the sense that you’re ignoring current events.)
Yes, in a sense we’re all locked in the car with you until you agree to open the door, but I’m not even going there at this point. You making hostage demands about your media diet strikes me as something you thought was a good idea when you wrote it, but it’s really not.
No, I couldn’t. I’m a software engineer, not a journalist.
Tens of thousands of actual journalists are. You’re not being served their content, and because you’ve insisted on not going out of your way to find it, you’re never going to see it.
It isn’t our responsibility to make you a responsible citizen.
You know why we’re informed, right? It’s because it only takes a very tiny amount of effort to be, and we’re willing to expend that effort. If you’re not, you’re going to be expending more effort in the long run as people take advantage of your willful ignorance to take things from you.
So you recognize that it’s a propaganda machine, and you’re fine with it? “I know that the food machine is shoveling straight manure into my mouth, but the real problem is the people who went and found a burger to eat because instead of bringing me a burger they’re telling me to close my mouth!”
AI isn’t a force multiplier. I say this as someone who works with it all the time on a technical level in my job. It’s a convenience tool at best. At worst, it makes stuff take longer.
Historically, what swings voters and changes opinions is talking to people with whom you have (1) mutual trust and respect, (2) who have a baseline understanding of current events, (3) in person. Not AI or social media or anything like that. All of that stuff can inform, but if you’re being served everything but reality from the algorithm, you aren’t going to be getting information either.
As for protests…huh? They worked amazingly well during the Civil Rights movement.
I did.
Maybe. But hopefully it’ll be people who don’t intentionally avoid doing whatever they can to actually learn about current events, as you seem dead-set on doing right now.
I didn’t read any of that but I can tell you I’m not the one uninformed or delusional here. You need to understand that and why it’s important
Then you are not qualified to comment on it. This is basic courtesy stuff. Do you also not return the cart after grocery shopping?
I’m willing to bet they let someone else do the groceries for them. That’s seems to be more in line with their rapport.
Probably true. This person absolutely strikes me as a failure-to-launch 27-year-old who still lives at home—not because they can’t afford to live anywhere else, but because they just like the fact that their mom still waits on them.
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It’s over your head anyways
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It’s your responsibility and your civic duty to stay informed, but if you’re unwilling, and just want to eat propaganda slop, then it’s not up to us to educate you. So shrug you do you.
Here’s something to explode your noggin. I’m not a US citizen, I don’t even live in the USA, and I’m better informed about what’s happening in your country than you. And that’s not because I’m some lefty political article reader. I read articles on all sides.
And would you have said to Doctor King that his Million Man March was pointless?
Your self confessed low information diet, and refusal to correct that, just means you vote for policies and people that don’t actually help you, or you don’t vote, which has the same effect. You hurt yourself and the people you love, but right wingnuts don’t seem to mind that… It’s crazy to me that there are people trying to rule every important aspect of your life, including what healthcare you and your family can have, and how much tax you pay, and whether you get sent into war, but you don’t care enough to do more than look at pictures. This has to be one definition of insanity tbh.
Yea almost like most voters that matter are the same way. So why are you still trying to wrap your head around that. Trump knew from day one. But you probably called him an idiot and chuckled because his message seemed silly. He ran circles around all of us. Years later it still seems nobody on the left can even figure out this basic concept
I am left wondering if you are a bot?
No but just a guy that’s frustrated with how messaging on the left is non existent. Like ya call me dumb because I don’t know. I’m not reading articles all day. Just looking at pictures. The right figured it out that you need to engage at this level. The left will ignore human nature. One side is succeeding and one is failing. We have Nazis publicly being Nazis with no shame. Just saying
Of course you mean they have to pander and lie right?
Sure, one man’s lie is another’s truth. We have to engage. But we don’t. Maybe we don’t by design.
It’s not. There is the truth and then there is lies and omissions.
Nope, we’ve tried that. Tell them to get fucked and kill them with shear numbers of voters.
I mean maybe but it doesn’t really matter.
You haven’t engaged in anything. You’re literally the “we’ve done nothing and we’re out of ideas” meme.
And truth is subjective. Always. Especially in politics.
Yes history doesn’t exist, call it in boys we’ve apparently done nothing no Democrat has ever pandered to morons and it certainly isn’t how we ended up here. No no, internet guy says we’ve not tried anything yet.
No perception is variable truth is singular. There’s one truth everything else is mis-perception though I do love that you don’t know the difference.
Ed: Melvin Ford? Are you of the Canadian crackhead fords because that would be fun.
You can only ever interrupt truth through perceptions. It’s why lawyers and marketers exist. First day being a human or what
The Democrats are asking for the following:
Essentially, Republicans are trying to ram through legislation that fuck over a lot of people. Democrats are trying to prevent a lot of people from being fucked over, and have essentially told Republicans that you need to work with us on these things…like, you know, a functional government is supposed to do.
The reason you see simple messaging from the right and not the left, is because lies are simple. If you’re just making shit up, you can make it as simple and meme-worthy as you want, it doesn’t matter. The truth is always more complicated, so if you want to tell the truth, you have to explain in something other than memes and simplistic pictures like this one. You need articles, or at least a paragraph or two of explaining, which means reading.
You don’t even need to read an entire article. Most reasonable news sources put it in a quick info box for you. Or you could pull up a democratic senator’s Bluesky or Mastodon account and see what they’ve posted about why they voted against it. There’s probably info on Tiktok and Instagram, too.
In this modern world, the issue is never that the information isn’t available; just that you didn’t look for it.
Correct. I don’t. Millions of swing voters do not. So where do you fit into that equation? Is Bill Clinton supposed to do all the work
Your passionate defense of laziness aside, the fact that you’re unable to think of a single Democrat other than Bill Clinton is…well, it sure is something.
Do I read this right? You’re saying “the right is winning because they’re posting clickbait bullshit (technical term here, not just a sloppy swear) consumed in memes or tiktok-style videos”?
Aren’t you terrified that’s the life so many (and I think you’re putting yourself in this camp as well) are choosing to live?
💯 that is a major reason that they’re winning.
When people say ‘well they’re just more funded duh’ what they’re not addressing is all that funding is to create shit posts and media to engage their base. All that funding goes into producing images of chickens throwing snowballs asking if climate change was real then why is it snowing in July. We are basic simple creatures as a group.
It doesn’t matter what I think because this is what the world is. The left is failing to accept it and that’s why we’re losing.
Check this out. How much of the likes and shares and comments do you think are bots? Notice any patterns? Patterns are important because you can rewire people’s brains and opinions through repetition.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQApCDVDer0/
Do you just look at pictures, and never read anything?
Nope