Top Trump official Stephen Miller’s recent declaration that anyone who “preaches hate for America” will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump’s platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller’s is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

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    To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -Theodore Roosevelt

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      They ARE traitors. Russian-backed, Nazi-seig-heil throwing traitors. They aren’t joking about wanting to jail liberals. They 100% mean it.

      They’ve been prepped to be fine with it since they started calling “liberalism a mental disorder.”

      Straight Russian propaganda. The Kremlin wants to stamp out western liberal democracy. MAGA’s the push to destroy America

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    Fuck you Mr Miller. Fuck what you and yours are doing to my country. I hate it. I fucking dare you to deport me.

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          So we can’t criticize the country we were born and raised in without “wanting to lose all we have”? Sounds like some bootlicking bullshit to me.

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          I don’t, I just want to lose the Republicans. And the purists who would rather have Trump than support Harris. And people who Vape.

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      This nation was birthed in blood and has existed parasitically on the global south for over 250 years. It is a fascist ethno-nationalist state that exists only to consume and destroy.

      The more history I learn, the more I am disgusted and horrified by the place I call home. Trump is exactly what this country deserves. If he brings the whole project crashing down, its no less than we all deserve.

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    Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

    Oh good, you’re finally awake. Let’s get you caught up on the last six months.

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        Yeah, no, this term there’s a lot less kayfabe, a lot more actual speedrunning tyranny. Not to say that they weren’t angling at tyranny before, but it’s clear they learned their lessons and came back with a plan.

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        For us, yes. For Republicans, no. In Trump’s first term:

        He stacked the Supreme Court in his favor (2 of the 3 he appointed helped steal the 2000 election for Bush)
        He appointed a record number of federal judges (260, most of which come from the Federalist Society)
        He reversed a CFPB rule that made it easier to file class action lawsuits against banks for fucking us over
        He oversaw more federal executions of prisoners than any president in 120 years
        He cut corporate tax rates from 35% to 21%, the lowest rate since 1939
        He pulled the US out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and our spot was filled by China

        There is so much more that he got done which set the stage for what is happening now. For example, he tried to pass about two thirds of the Heritage Foundation’s ‘Mandate for Leadership’ policies in his first term, which is what inspired them to write ‘Project 2025’, another iteration of the Mandate on steroids.

        The fact that Trump lost the election in 2020 is a total fluke, and it took a global pandemic that killed over a million Americans to make him lose.

        His first term was far from a shit show in terms of making the current shit show possible.

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          “He stacked the Supreme Court in his favor (2 of the 3 he appointed helped steal the 2000 election for Bush)”

          Fucking, what!?

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            Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh worked on the legal team for Bush in 2000, helping swing the case after the Brooks Brothers Riot.

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    Come get me asshole! I’ve hated this place since cancers like you were allowed to infect our politics.

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            Is there a point you’re trying to make here? If I don’t like your little troglodyte of a “president” I should leave?

            I’m a patriot. Why would abandon my country?

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              That was a pretty prompt edit as well lol 😅😅

              I don’t like him either. I also didn’t like your troglodyte of a “presidential candidate” as well.

              Perhaps we will have better choices in 2028?

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                  My troll comments and what I actually believe in are two different things. Perhaps I should have used my other account to appeal to your patriotism.

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          You don’t even know what the problems are. But nah, I would rather the citizens be united against the government and not against each other. Born here, raised here, served here. However, may I say fuck Bush Jr?

          You may hate Trump, but I don’t hate my fellow citizens. I actually respect your opinions.

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            I do not need you to respect my opinions.

            I need you to respect our fellow citizens by not making deriding comments for them to leave like you did.

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              Respect is earned. What have you done for the country? Do you hate the country or do you just hate the president?

              Sitting on the couch and hating people that they’ve never met through social media does not get to make demands lol

              You want to take this country for granted just because you hate the president? Go ahead. You want me to respect you through this app because you demand it? Nope.

              I’m not the one calling people names. I told that person to leave voluntarily if they hate the country that much.

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                “Respect is earned” is the most boomer take ever.

                No.

                Respecting others is the default. Respecting others is the bare minimum expected from you.

                Start by acknowledging that.

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        You get the fuck out. I am Canadian even, and I am telling you to GTFO. It is people like you who are fucking everything up.

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          You don’t even know me, and as an American, just ship us your maple syrup and we will vote out the bad orange man.

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        I genuinely can’t imagine how empty your life would have to be to sign up to lemmy and spend your tragically finite time on this earth “”“trolling”“” people.

        Go to twitter, make some like minded freinds, maybe pickup a hobby or something dude.

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    Some worried the administration was veering into an authoritarian territory.

    Yeah no fucking shit. It has been happening since he got into office you fucking dipshits.

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    Why do Americans still talk about the constitution like it means something or is still relevant?

    Your constitution is GONE. It’s a historical artifact. It has no meaning in today’s America.

    All that matters now is the whim of the emotional toddler in the White House. Get used to it. He’s not going until he’s dead.

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      They can’t grasp that they will have to pick up arms to get their country back and they’ll fight you about it too.

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      It wasn’t. At all. And you can clearly see armed people aren’t lining up to stop a clearly lawless authoritarian tyrant from holding power over them.

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        This all just got started. People are still hoping something changes before they have to commit murder. By next summer, the attitude will be different.

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          The law was put on place to maintain a standing US military, which was used to crush rebellions. People aren’t attacking the government to put down tyranny. That’s not a function of the US legal system.

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            That is a gross perversion if the 2nd Amendment, and the exact opposite of the intention if the Founding Fathers.

            In a letter of thanks for a copy of the new Constitution, Thomas Jefferson wrote:

            The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

            In the same letter, he also wrote:

            God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion.

            In the same letter he also made an extremely prescient statement that seems to predict the rise of MAGA’s adherance to the Conservative Propaganda Machine:

            The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.

            He was clearly in favor of rebellion, especially since he was instrumental in the rebellion that created America, and they clearly meant the 2nd Amendment to protect us from tyranny by giving us the means to rebel.

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    I can hardly believe that we have devolved so far, so quickly. We are literally one step away from becoming an authoritarian dictatorship. The plan is this:

    1. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) immigrants. These immigrants will mostly be legitimately illegal and gang associated criminals, but there will be a few individuals with legal standing and no criminal records. This could simply be the result of denying due process, or it could be an intentional test. The important factor is that 5th Amendment Due process rights are denied to all of them. The fact that these people (but be sure to de-humanize them as much as possible) are immigrants will be the distracting factor. <---- We are here

    2. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) criminals. These will be legitimate criminals with legitimately horrible records; that will be the distracting issue that will be made the focus of the argument: “They are serial killers, rapists, pedophiles, we don’t want them here, so we should get rid of them.” This has already been announced as the plan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfrwWz-m5I . That is not the point! The point is that they are still U.S. citizens, despite their crimes. The significance of this is that it will be the final barrier that needs to be broken, and the final protection that must be dismantled for the final solution to be enacted. If no one steps up and successfully defends the constitutional rights of these American citizens, then all the pieces will be in place for step 3.

    3. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) political dissidents, rivals, business opponents, and maybe just anyone the administration doesn’t like. If they are political dissidents they will claim that they have committed crimes like, “hate speech against America™”, if they are a minority, they will be “associated with gangs”, if they are business rivals it will have committed “economic terrorism”, or something like that. It doesn’t really matter because they eliminated due process in step 1 (remember that was the important factor, not the immigrant dis-tractor), and without due process they don’t have to prove any crimes. Our last defense would have been the simple fact that we are American Citizens, but we established that doesn’t matter in step 2 because they were “bad people”, but now the “bad people” are whoever the administration decides is bad.

    The context of the 5th amendment is important to understand its intent:

    Historically, the Fifth Amendment draws significant influence from English common law. The grand jury clause specifically dates back to the Magna Carta, and was designed to protect accused persons from prosecution by the English royalty. In keeping with that intention, the Constitution’s framers opted to adapt the grand jury to the Constitution, so as to protect citizens from prosecution by the federal government.
    Reagan Library

    Even in a Monarchy, which is not the form of government we are supposed to have, the Magna Carta offered protections against the King from prosecuting commoners, which is the origin of this amendment. We aren’t just devolving to pre-revolution America, which had enough disagreements with the rule of King George III that it sparked a war…no we are devolving to a pre-Magna Carta England type of Government. We are descending into middle-age feudalism with complete authoritarian rule… and we aren’t fortunate enough to have a dictator like Alfred the Great.

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    This is my country. I don’t hate the country but the trash humans who have grifted their way into power. Just like a nasty shit they to will pass into the sewers.