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“Now more than ever we need to reach across the aisle and work together…”
The Time to Move Forward Is Now
Ah, 2021. A time of triumph and jubilation. Democrats coming together and saying “We won last time so now we’ll never lose again” and proceeding to write the opposition party off as toothless has-beens. What a magical moment for our country.
Why can’t we go back to brunch? I think the real reason is because leftist voters stabbed us all in the back. So we just need to pivot further to the Right if we want to reclaim our beautiful brunch-time again.
leftist voters stabbed us all in the back.
Victory was assured! It is the only explanation!
Uncommitted movement? Never heard of them in my life, must be an internet joke!
He literally mentioned turning the military on cities earlier during the rambling speech he’s giving right now, in between talking about the quality of paper he likes and complaining about not getting a Nobel prize, because people are apparently shooting firefighters off ladders.
Don’t worry everyone, Chuck Schumer is going to write one of his most strongly worded letters ever.
He’s already admitted that the only reason he’s in Congress is to keep the left pro-Israel. And even by that metric he’s a loser.
And send eight overwrought emails about how much it would help if you donated right now.
Newsom about to post to social media in all caps.
Like in Germany, Italy, and Spain it will not be the Liberals that fight back. Liberals will bend the knee and beg for forgiveness while Social Democrats will protest until the military massacres them all. But it will be the revolutionaries, the Socialists, the Anarchists, and the Communists that will resist.
Then obviously the communists make the anarchists face the wall
Lol you really can’t wait to play victim can you
It seems being amnesigenic doesn’t make one immune from historical ignorance.
I’m well aware of the alleged historical grievances that some anarchists like to use to justify playing victim and being fucking useless, fortunately not all anarchists do this
You’re just trying to trade one boot for another.
Yes, a proletarian boot to prevent the capitalists from ever taking power again, your absurd opposition to wielding power for anything good ensures you will never do anything but lose
Seems like a stretch to call the mass execution of anarchists “anything good” but I suppose that really depends on how you feel about anarchists.
The Kingdom of Conscience will be exactly as it is now. Democrats don’t really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child’s toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.
ToTaLlY aS bAd As RePuBlIcAnS
Weird. It’s almost like it’s tankie/Russian propaganda. “Both sides are bad and the same and it’s hopeless! Give up.”
Not everyone who criticizes the dem party is a malicious. They are saying dems arent really trying and are actively blocking real change. Judging by how the party is treating Mamdani, its a valid take.
The first part is correct, both parties are owned by the same billionaires and consistently vote in the interests of those billionaires. The second part is some shit you made up because you don’t have a coherent counter-argument to the things the tankies are actually saying.
Almost
It’s not about bad or good even, it’s about having “principles” and acting on them. Democrats in general, for better and worse, are permissive to all kinds of stuff but have a real hard time agreeing on where lines are drawn and picking hills to fight for and die on together.
It’s like a kid having a tantrum on the floor of a public place and the parent going “sorry this is horrible but this just how he acts” and doing nothing to correct them or change the situation when they totally can.
Republicans don’t really have that problem, even when it’s objectively the dumbest shit ever.
That’s the side effect of a 2 party system. If they could split up into smaller parties, they could at least stand on their opinion.
Absolutely
Principles.
Indeed. Edited.
It’s an extremely transparent good cop/bad cop routine, quit being gullible
No one asked a tankie… anything ever
Lol k, stay stupid patriot
Yes, I’m such a PaTriOt that I am deeply ashamed of most of the things the US does. But hey, at least I’m not so shallow that I think cool red logos justify disgusting and brutal authoritarianism under a different name.
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Your shame is as worthless as your political action lol, authoritarianism is a thought-terminating buzzword employed by spineless liberals too terrified of the idea of wielding power for good to actually do anything to help
authoritarianism is a thought-terminating
This phrase renders all your words unlistenable. You just said that if a dictator is friendly to you, then they are good. Bye, blocked tankie.
Yes, I’m such a PaTriOt that I am deeply ashamed of most of the things the US does.
Your shame and a dollar would be worth a dollar.
But hey, at least I’m not so shallow that I think cool red logos justify disgusting and brutal authoritarianism under a different name.
Read like, any book from outside the States. Or speak to someone who actually lived in these “brutal authoritarian” states.
Oh go away accelerationist
Worse, at least republicans are honest about how fucking evil they are
Indeed the results are the same under both, but of the two at least Republicans have the virtue of honesty. Democrats lack even that.
Oh moralism. Here you are again.
Totally on board with your premise, they do need to punch up as much as they can. And it looks like they’re trying to do so this round of shutdowns.
Nonetheless, this ultimately comes down to us. All of us. We can’t just sit here behind a computer and meme ourselves out of this disaster. We have to get out in the streets. We have to yell get mad and be angry. We have to hit them where they feel it. We have to organize. Get with upset farmers, get with the military vets whose benefits have been cut, get with the middleclass milquetoast moms who are starting to feel like something isn’t right with their grocery bills.
Each and every individual one of us is a single drop in the ocean, but, if we all move in the same direction, we become a crashing tsunami.
I’m Canadian, you guys should have been doing this since Regan, but better late than never I suppose
The pot says to the kettle.
Never said we’re blameless but we did manage to avoid electing maple flavored trump even once, nevermind twice
Oh shut up haha. The CA government is headed down the same path last time I checked. Fuckin America Lite up there.
Yeah, kinda wish you guys hadn’t decided to export your particular brand of capitalistic rot by osmosis. Our mistake was integrating with you guys as a policy and when the move was made outspoken politicians called it for what it was.
NAFTA fucked up every single country who signed it. Reagan and Mulroney were assholes.
They haven’t made plans for that yet. Right now they are focused on fabricating national emergencies to cancel the midterms as the republicans are set to lose over a dozen seats as they destroy their communities and people tend to switch parties during midterms when the economy is struggling.
He is also threatening all the top military brass to start killing american citizens and getting rid of anyone the nazi administration doesn’t like.
We are at that moment in time were shit is about to get real crazy and most of the country will be too busy and uneducated to do anything about it, just as planned.
The Democrats forced Trump to do all this. They’re the real bad guys!
The Democrats forced Trump to do all this.
The Democrats helped Trump do all this.
Almost as much as protests voters helped Trump do all this. Almost as much as the both sides are the same rhetoric helped Trump do all this.
protests voters
Which state flipped based on protest voters?
Do you have a source that shows protest voters didn’t have any impact?
At least as much evidence as you have that they did.
How many voters voted in 2020 compared to 2024?
https://votingrightslab.org/2024/11/25/how-state-election-laws-shaped-voting-patterns-in-2024/
Huge changes in voting law between those two election cycles
Idk if you’re familiar with the phrase “proving a negative” or “burden of proof” but you should maybe try looking them up and learning a little bit about why you’re wrong
There’s a .ml after your name. Nothing you say is valid or taken seriously in any way
“You’re from place i don’t like” is a dogshit argument and you know it
Any impact protest voters might have had could be outweighed a thousandfold by nonvoters. Why call out protest voters unprompted as a cause of an election swing when their impact is a drop in an ocean?
Half the country didn’t vote. If 1% of them leaned Biden they would still have had more impact than protest voters, and I feel like the percentage leaning Biden might have been slightly higher than 1%.
I feel like I see protest voters called out 300x as much as nonvoters and I can never understand why it’s so disproportionate.
“Whatabout protest voters, whatabout third parties” lol quit blaming other people for your failures
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Don’t play stupid
Almost as much as protests voters helped Trump do all this.
Gee, if only there were some way democrats could have got those voters back on board. But they were too insignificant to matter until centrists needed someone to blame for the results of their unwillingness to represent people not named cheney or netanyahu.
When the electorate is polarized, you win by energizing your base to get more people to the polls. Abandoning your base one vulnerable group at a time not only fails to curry favor with the fascists that centrists desperately want to befriend, it also depresses turnout from your base as well. But since centrists like moving to the right and don’t want to stop, they treat their positions as sacrosanct and it is the voters who must capitulate. After all, our politicians capitulate by example so frequently.
If they were too insignificant to listen to, you don’t get to blame them. If they are significant enough to blame, they’re kingmakers and you should have been listening to them.
sheesh, literally the point my dad made yesterday unironically 😔
eyes on the New York mayoral election.
It’ll be a prelude to the general election.
And trump is already interfering in that election. and I bet he’ll deploy the national guard during the elections. Or straight up jail a candidate.
And major Democratic Party leaders hadn’t endorsed Mamdani. The Dems will just play the fiddle while DC burns.
It’s quite literally on the administrations to-do list.
If you’re worried about election integrity under the administration, please do volunteer, or work directly for your elections board if you can. We can really use the help, no matter where you are from.
If you have some spare cash, don’t be afraid to print out some fact sheets for people to take with them when voting, as long as you don’t violate canvassing laws of course.
The fuck do you want them to do? Ya’ll mfs voted the fascism back in after their first failed attempt, you can’t just pass your blame off to some dude in the minority party.
Every single person who could vote and did not vote DNC is responsible. Every single one.
Every single person who ever shared an anti Biden or Harris meme or spoke critically of them publicly before the election contributed to this problem. Everyone who was able to but did not openly endorse them or volunteer contributed to this problem.
That’s on you for allowing your party to push an unpopular candidate on the electorate.
Y’all didn’t rebel against the DNC when they ignored the uncommitted movement and decided to just select a candidate who never won a primary. Y’all didn’t rebel when she refused to condemn the Gaza genocide and admitted that she would continue to support it. Y’all didn’t rebel when she refused to stand up to the Republican attacks on trans kids.
So, now y’all get to go fuck yourselves.
Nah you’re not in position to state that. If the alternative wasn’t worse enough then you are to blame. There’s no perfect candidate. Ya could’ve voted in mid-terms, gave low approval ratings, voted for your preferred candidate during the next DNC primary. Not when it’s against Trump and project 2025. That’s choosing a nuclear bomb over a run of the mill bomb; sure both are bad but one is catastrophic. You’re mad that people chose a less severe bomb because it’s a bomb but your anger allowed something significantly more catastrophic yet you want to sit on some high horse. Sometimes you’re choosing against two bad things, choose the less terrible thing.
If there’s an unavoidable situation where people will die 10,000 v 100 I’m going to choose the least damage. You’d let 10,100 people die
You’re making an elementary political error here. In politics, you have to give a constituency something that they want or you could lose their vote. Harris gambled that she wouldn’t need the anti-war vote. She lost.
Honestly, what is the game plan here? If you can get enough people to feel guilty about their vote, then they’ll vote the “right way” next time, regardless of how bad the candidate is? When has that ever worked? Wouldn’t it be easier to just get a good candidate?
Right wing think tanks love this argument.
Are you referring to mine or the meme above it? Because I would wager Right Wing Think Tanks love the anti-DNC propoganda a lot more than calls for blue no matter who.
“anti-DNC propoganda”
"Every single person who ever shared an anti Biden or Harris meme or spoke critically of them publicly before the election contributed to this problem. "
holy america-brain. you’re not making your “democratic” party sound very democratic.
i would put the blame on anybody that voted for and supports trump, not on the people saying neither of the candidates in your 2-party system is a good representative. like i understand the argument to choose between the lesser of two evils, but why are you dying on the hill of which evil you choose? more importantly why are you villainizing the people fighting for a better choice, and instead standing by a party that ignores criticisms to be less evil?
i would wager Right Wing Think Tanks love YOU blaming the anti-fascists instead of… the fascists. especially you scapegoating other progressives and the rhetoric of uncritical support for YOUR leader: “blue” no matter who, huh?
it’s long past due for the usa to dismantle the flawed 2 party system. having to choose bewteen more or less genocide is not a democracy for those that are anti-genocide. yall gotta see past your current failing system and fight for broader ideals of accountable representation and anti imperialism.
Yes, “American Brain.” From and/or in America. In a discussion of US Politics. How surprising.
The only way the two party system is getting dismantled by not supporting the DNC is by creating a fascist one party system, so great job.
genuine curiosity, why would you want to continue using a broken system with all of its guardrails for fascism broken off?
Ending this system doesn’t defeat fascism, it creates it. He GOP are tearing the country down so it cannot oppose private interests.
The only way towards progress where nobody has to suffer and everyone is equal is to vote for progressives like the DNC and remove the GOP.
wait, i thought the meme in the og post is about Democratic incompetence in fighting fascism, and how they’ll even sit on their hands and do nothing. is the reason you blindly support them because you do the same thing, yet somehow think they’ll do all the work to fix everything if you just vote for them? you just want a Democrat Strongman/person to come in and set everything right if you just give them full control? well surprise, that’s still fascism. that plan where “nobody has to suffer and everyone is equal” isn’t working because while you’re waiting to vote, millions of people cast as “unequal and inferior” suffer. and then AFTER you vote, your government will still be killing people around the world, and imprisoning people into ICE camps and industrial prison complexes, and perpetuating the exploitation of yourselves and others.
alright, i’m pretty done with this convo/argument, so i’ll give some final comments and leave in peace. i will say sorry, for how harsh my words were; i probably could’ve said things in a gentler way but i just can’t find those words still. voting is important, so it’s frustrating to be saying that it’s currently an unfair and broken system, yet be told to continue participating and accept it as normal. yall need to take collective action for labour strikes, weapons shipment blockades, community organizing and creating networks of care; the rest of the world is.
but anyways, i sincerely wish the best for you. bye✌️
He certainly learned from other autocrats that, for example, you cannot hold elections during a civil war.
Martial Law exists in the current day to keep con men out of prison.
Wartime measures
No, no, no. The more accurate Dem response is: “guess we’re gonna die then.”
Keep it up and y’all are gonna make Hank Johnson bust out his guitar again.
