The fuck do you want them to do? Ya’ll mfs voted the fascism back in after their first failed attempt, you can’t just pass your blame off to some dude in the minority party.
Every single person who could vote and did not vote DNC is responsible. Every single one.
Every single person who ever shared an anti Biden or Harris meme or spoke critically of them publicly before the election contributed to this problem. Everyone who was able to but did not openly endorse them or volunteer contributed to this problem.
That’s on you for allowing your party to push an unpopular candidate on the electorate.
Y’all didn’t rebel against the DNC when they ignored the uncommitted movement and decided to just select a candidate who never won a primary. Y’all didn’t rebel when she refused to condemn the Gaza genocide and admitted that she would continue to support it. Y’all didn’t rebel when she refused to stand up to the Republican attacks on trans kids.
Nah you’re not in position to state that. If the alternative wasn’t worse enough then you are to blame. There’s no perfect candidate. Ya could’ve voted in mid-terms, gave low approval ratings, voted for your preferred candidate during the next DNC primary. Not when it’s against Trump and project 2025. That’s choosing a nuclear bomb over a run of the mill bomb; sure both are bad but one is catastrophic. You’re mad that people chose a less severe bomb because it’s a bomb but your anger allowed something significantly more catastrophic yet you want to sit on some high horse. Sometimes you’re choosing against two bad things, choose the less terrible thing.
If there’s an unavoidable situation where people will die 10,000 v 100 I’m going to choose the least damage. You’d let 10,100 people die
You’re making an elementary political error here. In politics, you have to give a constituency something that they want or you could lose their vote. Harris gambled that she wouldn’t need the anti-war vote. She lost.
Honestly, what is the game plan here? If you can get enough people to feel guilty about their vote, then they’ll vote the “right way” next time, regardless of how bad the candidate is? When has that ever worked? Wouldn’t it be easier to just get a good candidate?
Are you referring to mine or the meme above it? Because I would wager Right Wing Think Tanks love the anti-DNC propoganda a lot more than calls for blue no matter who.
"Every single person who ever shared an anti Biden or Harris meme or spoke critically of them publicly before the election contributed to this problem. "
holy america-brain. you’re not making your “democratic” party sound very democratic.
i would put the blame on anybody that voted for and supports trump, not on the people saying neither of the candidates in your 2-party system is a good representative. like i understand the argument to choose between the lesser of two evils, but why are you dying on the hill of which evil you choose? more importantly why are you villainizing the people fighting for a better choice, and instead standing by a party that ignores criticisms to be less evil?
i would wager Right Wing Think Tanks love YOU blaming the anti-fascists instead of… the fascists. especially you scapegoating other progressives and the rhetoric of uncritical support for YOUR leader: “blue” no matter who, huh?
it’s long past due for the usa to dismantle the flawed 2 party system. having to choose bewteen more or less genocide is not a democracy for those that are anti-genocide. yall gotta see past your current failing system and fight for broader ideals of accountable representation and anti imperialism.
wait, i thought the meme in the og post is about Democratic incompetence in fighting fascism, and how they’ll even sit on their hands and do nothing. is the reason you blindly support them because you do the same thing, yet somehow think they’ll do all the work to fix everything if you just vote for them? you just want a Democrat Strongman/person to come in and set everything right if you just give them full control? well surprise, that’s still fascism. that plan where “nobody has to suffer and everyone is equal” isn’t working because while you’re waiting to vote, millions of people cast as “unequal and inferior” suffer. and then AFTER you vote, your government will still be killing people around the world, and imprisoning people into ICE camps and industrial prison complexes, and perpetuating the exploitation of yourselves and others.
alright, i’m pretty done with this convo/argument, so i’ll give some final comments and leave in peace. i will say sorry, for how harsh my words were; i probably could’ve said things in a gentler way but i just can’t find those words still. voting is important, so it’s frustrating to be saying that it’s currently an unfair and broken system, yet be told to continue participating and accept it as normal. yall need to take collective action for labour strikes, weapons shipment blockades, community organizing and creating networks of care; the rest of the world is.
but anyways, i sincerely wish the best for you. bye✌️
The reason any of the bad things happening rn are happening is because the DNC do not have power, have not had power with any permanence in over a decade.
The fuck do you want them to do? Ya’ll mfs voted the fascism back in after their first failed attempt, you can’t just pass your blame off to some dude in the minority party.
Every single person who could vote and did not vote DNC is responsible. Every single one.
Every single person who ever shared an anti Biden or Harris meme or spoke critically of them publicly before the election contributed to this problem. Everyone who was able to but did not openly endorse them or volunteer contributed to this problem.
That’s on you for allowing your party to push an unpopular candidate on the electorate.
Y’all didn’t rebel against the DNC when they ignored the uncommitted movement and decided to just select a candidate who never won a primary. Y’all didn’t rebel when she refused to condemn the Gaza genocide and admitted that she would continue to support it. Y’all didn’t rebel when she refused to stand up to the Republican attacks on trans kids.
So, now y’all get to go fuck yourselves.
Nah you’re not in position to state that. If the alternative wasn’t worse enough then you are to blame. There’s no perfect candidate. Ya could’ve voted in mid-terms, gave low approval ratings, voted for your preferred candidate during the next DNC primary. Not when it’s against Trump and project 2025. That’s choosing a nuclear bomb over a run of the mill bomb; sure both are bad but one is catastrophic. You’re mad that people chose a less severe bomb because it’s a bomb but your anger allowed something significantly more catastrophic yet you want to sit on some high horse. Sometimes you’re choosing against two bad things, choose the less terrible thing.
If there’s an unavoidable situation where people will die 10,000 v 100 I’m going to choose the least damage. You’d let 10,100 people die
You’re making an elementary political error here. In politics, you have to give a constituency something that they want or you could lose their vote. Harris gambled that she wouldn’t need the anti-war vote. She lost.
Honestly, what is the game plan here? If you can get enough people to feel guilty about their vote, then they’ll vote the “right way” next time, regardless of how bad the candidate is? When has that ever worked? Wouldn’t it be easier to just get a good candidate?
Right wing think tanks love this argument.
Are you referring to mine or the meme above it? Because I would wager Right Wing Think Tanks love the anti-DNC propoganda a lot more than calls for blue no matter who.
“anti-DNC propoganda”
"Every single person who ever shared an anti Biden or Harris meme or spoke critically of them publicly before the election contributed to this problem. "
holy america-brain. you’re not making your “democratic” party sound very democratic.
i would put the blame on anybody that voted for and supports trump, not on the people saying neither of the candidates in your 2-party system is a good representative. like i understand the argument to choose between the lesser of two evils, but why are you dying on the hill of which evil you choose? more importantly why are you villainizing the people fighting for a better choice, and instead standing by a party that ignores criticisms to be less evil?
i would wager Right Wing Think Tanks love YOU blaming the anti-fascists instead of… the fascists. especially you scapegoating other progressives and the rhetoric of uncritical support for YOUR leader: “blue” no matter who, huh?
it’s long past due for the usa to dismantle the flawed 2 party system. having to choose bewteen more or less genocide is not a democracy for those that are anti-genocide. yall gotta see past your current failing system and fight for broader ideals of accountable representation and anti imperialism.
Yes, “American Brain.” From and/or in America. In a discussion of US Politics. How surprising.
The only way the two party system is getting dismantled by not supporting the DNC is by creating a fascist one party system, so great job.
genuine curiosity, why would you want to continue using a broken system with all of its guardrails for fascism broken off?
Ending this system doesn’t defeat fascism, it creates it. He GOP are tearing the country down so it cannot oppose private interests.
The only way towards progress where nobody has to suffer and everyone is equal is to vote for progressives like the DNC and remove the GOP.
wait, i thought the meme in the og post is about Democratic incompetence in fighting fascism, and how they’ll even sit on their hands and do nothing. is the reason you blindly support them because you do the same thing, yet somehow think they’ll do all the work to fix everything if you just vote for them? you just want a Democrat Strongman/person to come in and set everything right if you just give them full control? well surprise, that’s still fascism. that plan where “nobody has to suffer and everyone is equal” isn’t working because while you’re waiting to vote, millions of people cast as “unequal and inferior” suffer. and then AFTER you vote, your government will still be killing people around the world, and imprisoning people into ICE camps and industrial prison complexes, and perpetuating the exploitation of yourselves and others.
alright, i’m pretty done with this convo/argument, so i’ll give some final comments and leave in peace. i will say sorry, for how harsh my words were; i probably could’ve said things in a gentler way but i just can’t find those words still. voting is important, so it’s frustrating to be saying that it’s currently an unfair and broken system, yet be told to continue participating and accept it as normal. yall need to take collective action for labour strikes, weapons shipment blockades, community organizing and creating networks of care; the rest of the world is.
but anyways, i sincerely wish the best for you. bye✌️
The reason any of the bad things happening rn are happening is because the DNC do not have power, have not had power with any permanence in over a decade.