The announcement follows Newsom’s 2024 executive order, which directed encampment cleanups after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling granted state and local governments more authority to remove them.
Dude’s really method acting his trump “parody” isn’t he.
Maybe he can send trans people to gulags too. After all, Newsom’s message seems to be “Hey, I heard you like fascists… vote for me! I can do a fascism too!”
Experience has shown that trying to out-fascist the fascists always works really well for centrists. Anything but the compassionate, progressive politics people desperately want.
Trump has started going after the homeless. I can see Newsome taking action to keep Trump from declaring it an issue in California and sending in the National Guard and or the military. This may be a preemptive measure to address some radical moves by the current federal administration.
Trump has started going after the homeless. I can see Newsome taking action to keep Trump from declaring it an issue in California and sending in the National Guard and or the military.
He was going after the homeless before trump took office.
But but but maybe it was just a preemptive strike?!? 😬
Yeah definitely wouldn’t want the marines and national guard going to California. Is this sarcasm?
And where do you plan to have them go? Because they have to go somewhere. Perhaps instead of fighting a symptom you treat the cause. Like a complete lack of affordable housing. And things like corporations and hedge funds hoarding single family homes that sit empty, often not even on the market because they’re treating them as appreciating assets not homes.
someone should pose that question to the red states that literally ship their homeless to california and then call CA a shithole for having a homelessness problem.
Texas has actually started reforming zoning laws to allow for more housing, as much of a shithole as that state can be otherwise
Housing is an area that California has absolutely failed on, and it doesn’t look like Newsome will do anything to fix it
Reform zoning laws. Allow more dense housing to be built. Once housing is fixed, homelessness will follow suit
I loved that they let a ton of people out of jail when they legalized marijuana and vacated a ton of convictions.
But then they literally just turned people out on the street with zero fucking pathways. No money, no home, no phone, just zero fucking resources.
It was an almost overnight explosion of homelessness in San Diego.
Sure they have always had a homeless population (the weather is particularly ideal for living outside most of the year), but nothing like it turned in to.
Clearing camps won’t help. Like you said, you need to solve the root problem.
Encampment sweeps kill.
https://www.propublica.org/article/portland-homeless-deaths-multnomah-county
But although the city spent roughly $200,000 per homeless resident throughout that time, deaths of homeless people recorded in the county quadrupled, climbing from 113 in 2019 to more than 450 in 2023, according to the most recent data from the Multnomah County Health Department. The rise in deaths far outpaces the growth in the homeless population, which was recorded at 6,300 by a 2023 county census, a number most agree is an undercount…
These deaths came during the same period that Portland began a two-pronged response to public pressure over homelessness. City leaders began moving homeless people out of public view by removing tents at a rate far surpassing those of its West Coast peers. Since 2021, it carried out 19,000 sweeps, and it dismantled over 20 encampments per day in 2024, according to city records.
At the same time, the city reduced money for stable permanent housing while dramatically increasing its investment in temporary shelters…
They know. It’s the actual goal, not an unfortunate fluke of the system.
How is a city spending $200k per homeless resident and still not providing them with housing?
That’s more than 8 years’ worth of rent/mortgage at $2k per month. And even longer in a more reasonably-priced home.
I understand there are more expenses than just rent, but I also understand that it’s nearly impossible to get a job if you don’t have a permanent residence. If we’ve got a homelessness crisis that includes working families, why wouldn’t the states want to help those families?
A rent/mortgage assistance program seems like it would do a lot more long-term good than simply “cleaning up” encampments.
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Where did all the newsom stans go?
EDIT: the number of downvotes is the number of people who agree with performative cruelty to homeless people.
nobody likes Newsome, but in contrast to the rest of the Dems… he’s actually effective at getting under the GOPs skin. That’s the whole thing.
GOP doesn’t give a shit about Jefferies yapping on the floor for hours. They don’t care about another “strongly worded letter” from Schumer. And everyone, EVERYONE, hates Pelosi…
Yes, we all want more people like Mamdani. His policies are everything that I want, that most of us want. But you’d also have to be politically ignorant to not realize that his platform is on shakey ground nationwide. You can do something like Mamdani in a blue stronghold like NY. But across the nation? At this moment in time? No chance, you might as well just hand GOP the keys to power ad infinitium.
I don’t like Newsome, but I’m not trying to throw the whole country in the toilet waiting for the world to come around to Mamdani. Playing this “all or nothing” game is getting real people killed and lives ruined.
nobody likes Newsome, but
followed by 4 paragraphs of “you are going to vote newsom and love it”
If no one likes him, he’s not gonna win. But let’s face it. Winning isn’t the point. Making sure no progressive is able to run is the point. And you’ll campaign for someone you claim to hate in order to make sure that happens.
The DNC hasn’t run it’s bots up yet today /j
Is this the part where you tell us he’s a corpo shill and I should vote third party in protest?
Can always count on centrists to conflate criticism and disloyalty in the worst faith possible.
Newsome is such a two faced piece of shit.
While many people believe that substance use, mental illness, or other individual factors are the main drivers of homelessness, extensive research shows that rising housing costs drive more people into homelessness than any other cause.
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/we-can-end-homelessness-in-america
Even if the reasons where mainly substance use and mental illness, those are still societal issues that require societal solutions through better health care access and overall more social security.
It is wild to me that in America “Oh you have a mental illness? Well go die then and don’t leave your corpse for me to see!” is somehow a position that is considered acceptable among “progressives”. It is deeply reactionary and a hallmark of fascists.
Behold the sparkle of champagne.
The crime rate’s gone, feel free again.
Oh, life’s a breeze with you, Miss Lily White.
Taylor Swifts on the screen today.
Convinced the liberals it’s okay.
So let’s get dressed to dance away the night.While they kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor tonight.
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor.
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor tonight.Guys, I found Jello Biafra’s Lemmy account.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he had one.
… by making affordable housing and giving it to the needy?
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You have had conversations with many unhoused people and they’ve indicated they would much rather prefer sleeping in places with little security, a high risk of their few possessions being stolen, and little protection from the elements, to a safe, stable place of residence?
I’m quite skeptical.
I’ve been homeless. This person is either full of shit or the population they were around was drastically different than mine.
There are circumstances I recall where people turned down shelter space, opting to sleep on the streets, but that’s because the shelters imposed conditions that were unacceptable to them. Primarily, it was drug addicts refusing to get clean or shelters that imposed religious requirements. The rest was mostly untreated mental illness.
“but that’s because the shelters imposed conditions that were unacceptable to them.”
There are people for whom conditions are not acceptable. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have access to a safe place to live.
Not what I said
I’m curious then, you seem to know the thoughts and experience of unhoused people, yet you’re saying you haven’t conversed with them. How did you form such an opinion?
My comments have been removed for some reason but I started the first one with “I can’t speak for all unhoused people but there are some.”
Not sure how you could read that as me speaking for all homeless people. I’ve lived in all kinds of situations with all kinds of people. I’ve known some who flat out reject being involved in programs designed to help them, preferring to go it alone. Yes, giving up access to safe shelters and other resources. I’m not saying they deserve to go without help or that they should be rounded up and placed in camps. I’m saying understanding their choices can be complex and requires more than just access to shelters or housing.
Your initial comment read like, “we shouldn’t provide access to housing for anyone because some don’t actually want it.”
I believe a better solution would be, “we should provide access to housing and if some don’t want it, they won’t be forced to use it.”
It’s definitely a complex issue, but the first step should be compassion and not eliminating practical options because they might not suit a small subset of the population.
You might have read my comment that way but you also read it as me speaking for all homeless people for some reason.
There is a risk of using already limited funds for housing projects that pay out to contractors/land developers (profiting off social programs) without having enough to go towards other issues facing unhoused people. The solution is more complex than simply “build more homes” which is what the original message I responded to was intimating.
All people deserve safe, stable living environments, some just choose to forgo those for reasons people seem unwilling to acknowledge.
I think you are conflating chronic homeless (less than 25% of all homeless) with people who are homeless for the first time, or have gone in and out of homelessness one or two times. The transiently homeless are absolutely driven there by lack of housing. Chronically homeless tend to have multiple issues that make serving them a challenge, but targeted support programs have been shown to make significant inroads even there.
This page has a lot of detailed breakdowns: https://endhomelessness.org/state-of-homelessness/
“Chronically homeless tend to have multiple issues that make serving them a challenge, but targeted support programs have been shown to make significant inroads even there.”
That was the point I was making. It’s not just lack of housing.
I think you’re buying republican narrative about the homeless. That is judgement, but so is your comment.
Edit: No judgement
i dont think that word means what you think it means
Lol, I get the impression you don’t know what it means.
no shit? you think we have different ideas of what judgement means? what gave you that impression- was it the 1/9 ratio or me telling you so first?
shove your thoughtless reply right straight back up whatever hole you were gonna shit it out of. i’ve already blocked you.
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Did you read the article beyond the headline? Is that what it said?
Yup, just making fun of the click bait, referencing the Anakin padme meme
Diet-Fascism™
This is the trick the fascists are playing on us. They’ve corrupted both sides, and hope we’ll believe that the one that is “less fascist” will be able to save us from the one that’s “more fascist”. NOPE, surprise, it’s fascism all the way down! The game is rigged, the trap is sprung, the only winning move is not to play.
If you’re familiar with the 4 boxes of liberty, it’s time to understand that the ballot box has already failed us and abandon the idea that we can vote our way out of this mess. We’re past that. We’re firmly in the jury box stage right now and it’s not looking too promising with the amount of judicial interference going on, the administration flaunting rulings that don’t go in their favor, and the supreme court stacked.
With the fourth box, understand that the first and possibly even most potent ammunition you will ever have access to is free speech. But it will also be the first to run out. Use what’s left of it while you still can. Be vocal. Be a shit disturber. Many people need their shit disturbed, some need it to wake them up with the information they’re not willing to accept, others need it because they’re fascists themselves. Disturb them. Attend protests. Prepare to go on strike. Collective action is more powerful than people give it credit for. The country cannot function without wage-slaves feeling chained to their jobs, clinging to it like a lifeline and too afraid that rocking the boat will see them let go. This is a method of control. Prepare for turmoil and disruption. Find people who can help you and support you when things go south. Seek community and resilience, find people who will look out for you, and do what you can to look out for them. Find ways to organize if you can. There is strength in numbers. The clock is ticking, and it’s not going to wait for you to be ready. Get ready now, and get involved. This is everyone’s fight, and if you’re not already fighting, you’re late, get moving.
The governor’s office stated that the task force will prioritize sites deemed unsafe and collaborate with local governments to connect individuals with shelter, health care and substance use services.
So much is not covered in rage bait titles.
this is the same tactic that got us trump this second time.
When all encampments are deemed unsafe and local services are already stretched to the breaking point, I think we can be justified in calling this out for the performative anti-homeless bullshit it is.
Nothing short of a complete reorganization of the economy so that working class people are prioritized instead of billionaires will fix this problem though.
Agreed with the second statement but the first is just abandoning people instead of helping them and that is negligence.
Newsom wants to clear out homeless encampments without expanding the services necessary to ensure they won’t just build an encampment somewhere else. That seems like abandonment to me.
without expanding the services necessary to ensure they won’t just build an encampment somewhere else.
Based on what? The article stated the housing dept is involved. So where are you getting this information from?
The article linked a previous piece that has more context: https://ktla.com/news/california/homelessness-experts-weigh-in-on-newsoms-executive-order-on-encampments/|
“Kushel applauded the Newsom administration for addressing the ongoing crisis and its root cause but noted that California would have to make strides in closing the income and housing cost gaps so people can afford housing while also working to increase capacity at shelters so more unhoused individuals could utilize that option.”
Yes that’s why he’s involved housing. It said it in the article had you actually read it.
I did read the article, there’s no need to be a condescending prick.
It doesn’t say anywhere in the article that he’s actually increasing housing, just that he’s “connecting” people with housing services. The article I linked then says that housing services in the state are stretched past full capacity.
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200M spent on alligator Auschwitz and an estimated 450M annual operating cost.
Some googling tells me that an apartment building can cost about 200k/unit (I suspect it could be less). That’s 1000 units. And then imagine what would happen if you put that yearly operating cost into healthcare and other social programs.
They want to build 1000 concentration camps. Florida is working on their second. Texas has one. Other states will certainly follow.
Maybe Newsom should be building homes instead of division.
Depending on quality you can make studio apartments, similar to hotel rooms, for close to $50k per unit.
California spends over $50k per homeless person per year.
How has homelessness only grown?
Because of double dipping and lack of oversight.
One homeless person goes and gets welfare from one place and then another day goes elsewhere. Both places claim them for a period even though they may only actually be going to one place a day.
If California actually wanted to end homelessness, they could, but then the NGOs and administrators couldn’t profit off homelessness.
California is performative in altruisms and they will never accomplish anything of value on progressive values if they can’t use it to give money to wealthy people.
The vice signaling at the Fed level such as the “alligator” compound, and the “encampments bother my snowflake sensibility, just move them” shit being done in D.C. is not a carbon copy of whatever California is doing. Success at their self-stated goals is TBD, but the California government is putting actual resources to attempt to provide appealing options to those being displaced.
From the linked article, bolding mine:
Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday announced the creation of a statewide task force aimed at dismantling homeless encampments on state property and expanding access to shelter and services.
The State Action for Facilitation on Encampments, or SAFE Task Force, will coordinate efforts across multiple state agencies, including the California Highway Patrol, Caltrans, and the state’s health and housing departments.
The governor’s office stated that the task force will prioritize sites deemed unsafe and collaborate with local governments to connect individuals with shelter, health care and substance use services.
Can’t wait to be yelled at to stop complaining and vote for him in 2028
Vote Blue! (Who we tell you to)
Clear encampments by… Giving them homes to save money?
Jesus fuckin Christ. Fuck you, you goddam scumbag.
And You. You definitely didn’t read the article. Just the title.
I just didn’t read it with the same unjustified credulity which you did.
Based on what exactly? Your feefees? Look at you using descriptive words beyond rage baiting titles on other people and yet somehow you’re above it? I smell bullshit.
Look, asshole, based on my experience living in California. Based on my ability to read newspapers with a critical eye. “Oh, well yes they are going to use police to sweep homeless encampments, but don’t worry, it will be paired with housing and supportive services!” Do you know how long it takes to build the kind of infrastructure that second part requires? Newsom can’t simply snap housing and rehab slots into existence, but he can snap police raids into existence, so that’s what he’ll do.
Besides overhauling the economy to better suit everyone, which Newsom has little control over, what other policies and tactics would you like to see used instead?
How about don’t crow about abusing the most disadvantaged people in our communities, while pretending you’re solving anything?
Certainly you just have more to say on this. There’s quite a history of California combating homelessness. What programs and tradeoffs have you seen that you prefer? There is diversity within the homeless community. How did you like to see the different groups managed?
This sounds an awful lot like Louisiana…
Relocation begins: Jeff Landry’s administration clears New Orleans homeless encampments
Louisiana coerced unhoused people into an unheated warehouse – and paid $17.5m for it
It started out as needing to clear everyone out allegedly for security reasons bc of the Bourbon street attacks and the Superbowl, but everyone assumed he was trying to just slap a coat of paint on the city. Then it happened again when there was a big Taylor Swift concert, now it’s like every time “we have company” we should just understand Landry will be rounding up homeless people to make the city more presentable.
People keep saying Newsome is just doing this kind of shit to prove he’s a centrist Democrat but I’m kinda starting to worry it might be a little more sinister than that.
Word of advice for California, be very cautious about allowing any state police or task force to permanently or semi permanently set up in your cities. If it gets proposed push back as loud and hard as you legally can, no matter what you local government might indicate about it.
Homeless sweep ahead of Taylor Swift concert reveals conflict between city, Troop NOLA
Troop NOLA: What we know about the new Louisiana State Police troop in New Orleans
Mayor LaToya Cantrell ‘in alignment’ with Gov. Jeff Landry’s crime plan for New Orleans
And if you can’t stop it from happening make sure your city hammers out even the most obscure details in a contract. If you’re not sure if you need to bother with getting it in writing, you do.
I changed the original headline bc it’s misleading. It makes it sound like the contract was something city council wanted bc they wanted homeless sweeps. The city pushed for a formal contract bc State police were just doing it without any say from the city on how they rounded people up or where they took them.
