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    This still is killing me. Why is this so funny? All the others look like good images of the characters!

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    This is why the concept of statistical outlier and standard deviation exists.

    Had I seen something like this in any analysis I would either assume some fault in the measurement (either reading or technical) or error in punching the data. Then ignored the result if it couldn’t be reproduced, but leave it in the raw data/graph/figure and explain the exlution.

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    Esmeralda being 18 is throwing me for a loop. Idk why. All the other ones I can get past looks because they’re all meant to be young (and many have ages stated) but I literally never once viewed Esmeralda as a teenager in the movie. Early 20s maybe. Maybe they mentioned it and I forgot.

    Crazy movie though. Frolo is so fucked.

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        What is creepy about it? The entire story is really about Alice discovering rules and how she likes them so much. That is very much the world of an 8 year old. Not to mention all of the fanciful characters and tropes that were dreamed up.

        There are many academic critiques and studies of the work. It is also central to Open AI’s QKV layers model alignment training. The story is the primary catalyst for creative randomness in terms of internal model thinking in both LLMs and embedding models used in image diffusion. For instance, all of the mechanisms that Alice used to become bigger and smaller are present in diffusion AI models with the caveat that no real person place or thing is present in the prompt. One does not need to bring up the detailed context of the story if one prompts the element with good specificity. A far easier method to play with is to prompt the queen of hearts or Alice as a character in an image using just a foundational base model. It should be quite clear how these images are a bit different in many ways. Those differences are not random and they are persistent across all models. Literary nonsense is the actual randomness that shows up in background objects and clothing in images. Prompting against the abstraction of genre is far more effective than attempting to describe your own details in the prompt with specificity.

        In literature in general, Carroll’s work is the holotype for a genre. Analysing the work speaks to the human experience on many levels. The work has long been appreciated by all ages. So I am a bit baffled about what you find creepy about age in any context such as this. Like what kind of assumptions do you possibly feel grounded in here?

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          I don’t understand what you wrote. Please explain like I’ve not take a literature class since high school. (I read, but mostly for fun or computer tech information, which is also for fun.)

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            There is more to the story of Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland than just a children’s story. There are several podcasts and blog posts on this that are easy to find. The book is public domain and on Gutenberg.org. There are also several audio book reads of the original text on YT. It is considered the holotype or foremost representative book in the literary nonsense genre, (the book ends with all of wonderland being a dream).

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        I’m gonna need a source for that 'cause, like, they weren’t really concerned about creepiness back in the 50s from what I can tell.

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      Her actual age is unknown, due to nobody knowing what year she was born. Estimates put her at around 10 or 11 when John Smith arrived. Some people say he was romantically involved with her, but others believe he played that part up to keep her from getting killed by other settlers. Those people say she was simply a translator and ambassador for several years, since she was able to learn English relatively quickly. She was ~16-17 when she was taken hostage, forcibly baptized, and married off to a tobacco farmer. She died only a few years later, around the age of 20 or 21.

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    I like the 8800 year old :>

    Got that multiple millennia of wisdom while still being 22 physiologically somehow

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      Not seen the movie but I assume she behaves like a 22 yo as well?

      That’s one of the many things that threw me with LotR Rings of Power was how Galadriel behaved like a teen while being between 3,412 and 5,353 years old.