If the only thing stopping your partner from cheating is location sharing then you’ve got problems.
Putting aside how much of a red flag that is,
Is there any foss self-hosted version of these location sharing services?
Home Assistant seems to work well. Depends what functions you want.
My wife and I have location sharing enabled in case something happens to one of us. We usually don’t use it, but its good to have when we need to meet up at an unfamiliar place after something goes sideways for one of us.
But if your SO doesn’t trust you enough to allow you private moments and would accuse you of cheating, your relationship isn’t based on trust and thus is very weak.
My best friend drove me to work the other day. We missed a turn and had to take a detour. Not two blocks after that missed turn, his girlfriend calls him asking where he’s going lmao
I would be willing to share locations because I worry about people and don’t want them to worry about me, but I’ll toss this phone in a Blendtec blender before I install an application that gives some creep in fuckin Dayton Ohio my and my girlfriend’s GPS coordinates 24/7. Tasker does the job well enough anyhow
I’ll toss this phone in a Blendtec blender
Oof, iSmoke. Don’t breathe this!
I think they did an iPhone, I know for a fact they did an iPad.
This article constantly reloads and alternates between showing and hiding some warning about my privacy lol. Unreadable.
My wife and I have it on Google Maps. I can’t remember why, but we’ve had it for years. I think my wife worries if I’m safe sometimes. I think I check it less than once a year. I checked it once to see if they were on their way home once, that’s about it.
I check ours frequently just to see when he’ll be home from work, because I leave for my job when he gets home due to young kids.
Immature crap like this makes me very grateful to be a grownup married to a grownup.
if you believe the only reason your partner isn’t cheating is that you’d find out via location share; what the fuck is the point?
There’s always gps spoofing via debug mode too. So it’s not like sharing gps is even reliable
Quit cheating or split up. It’s not complicated.
Also like, have we all forgotten about the possibility of someone having two phones.
Yes, most sane persons I know have disavowed the entire concept of being with someone else.
And archaic leftover of a more dependant age.
Now it’s just handcuffs with no upside
Ending cheating is as easy as ending “being in a couple”
and for people who can imagine life without this crutch
it becomes more and more foreign why anyone
would ever accept such an oppressive custom into their householdCould you explain what you mean by calling it an oppressive custom? Personally, I love being with someone. It has the upside of me getting to enjoy companionship with another human being, and it doesn’t feel like handcuffs. Sometimes I have to do things that I wouldn’t do otherwise for the sake of my partner’s feelings/wellbeing, but isn’t that the case in all relationships? Romantic, familial, platonic, or otherwise? If my partner wants me to do something I’m truly uncomfortable with (like allowing them to track my location), and we can’t agree on a compromise, I’d just end that relationship and find someone I’m more compatible with.
a common way to keep tabs on friends, family and romantic partners so I allow the app to alert him each time I reach my front door. In a disappointingly heteronormative and retrograde move, I’m more interested in knowing when he goes out – where’s he off to now? – and set up my own notifications accordingly. Having grown up with the internet, gen Z are, generally, more comfortable sharing their data online; Snapchat, the social media platform notoriously most popular with younger users, has long incorporated location sharing with its Snap Maps feature.
Does anyone even have a private moment at all? Also if I were to cheat I’d leave my phone in a very specific spot if I can. Faux location services may work, but mostly switching to a feature phone seems to be secret trick that shuts down these app fueled nightmare.
Oh, sorry, the battery is down I had to switch to my old phone for a moment! When did we stop having private moments and thoughts? I like tech when it aides me, but recently it has been feeding off my personal time and even some order of thoughts in ways it didn’t do before. It almost feels like it tries to fix and set up human emotions in ways that are forced.
Do you want technology to replace normal communication and socialisation skills? Or does it even matter to you that it is what happens now. Remember that only a few years before nobody followed you all the day, and even the internet access was relegated to a computer room. How far have we come from that?
Snapchat, the social media platform notoriously most popular with younger users, has long incorporated location sharing with its Snap Maps feature
Fuck me. I dont even share my first and last name with any social media site, much less my photo. My current location? The fuck is wrong with people?
Having public social media can be useful. And it was always possible even before (oh yes MySpace). My issue is having this eternal access as a proof of existance on you all the time. I am fine with the idea of having a public life, what triggers me is the normalisation of surveillance from subjects who never had the concept of being surveillance actors in the first place.
Not to mention, how many abusive partners are already using this feature already? I guess many more than just jealus couples. Airtags had the same problems, but thera are apps to let you spot them, even than they’re an invasive technology. Position sharing can be invasive too. Even voluntary sharing is probably worse than we think.
There are few cases where i can think this as a useful feature, like incidents or other unspecified situations.
The one thing that stands out is that this is active constantly. It’s not situational. The article doesn’t do a good job at detailing the possible abuses of the function but they’re there, they were the same with gps trackers and airtags. Gps devices are notoriously expensive relative to these alternatives so nowadays only a certain person would use them.
If you have to use these things in a relationship, then you already have a problem.
This is the correct take.
So we have two camps.
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It’s a tool to be used and it’s a good thing to exists and I have it enabled forever
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Keep a gun pointed at it at all occasions and even if you use it, do so with heavy restrictions
I trust my partner and my partner trusts me but the idea of stalking her via app is mindboggling and, honestly, disgusting to me. Like a dog on a leash, always observed, always controlled. That’s some mind disease shit going on. Trust your partner dammit. Ya all have issues.
On the other hand though being violently agaisnt it cuz “oh my god privacy” is also funny. The recipent is your partner. Setting it up for some specific use case shouldn’t be a bother. It can be extremely usefull for example for grabbing shit in a mall - if you are not interested in going to the same shop, enable it, split, get what you need, join back, disable it.
What I am getting at is - it’s a tool, but an invasive and overly controlling one. Use it how you wish but do not perceive having it on constantly as normal. It literally sounds disgusting.
Edit: For people talking about privacy - we’re on lemmy. We all know how tracking works. An even if you have localisation off, your device will connect to local wifi and smart appliances to log your location anyway. So I am not really invested into discusing overall practice of having location on - only on sharing saud location.
My wife and I have our location shared with each other 24/7. Furthermore, my sister also has mine and my wife has her sister’s. It has nothing to do with trust and everything to do with safety. Perhaps the real trust is not assuming your partner will use your location to control you.
For me, privacy is safety. The thing im most worried about is the government snatching me up in the night.
Yay, threat profiles!
Well, seems that having a trusted party with your location would help with that, fellow inhabitant of a fascist regime.
Please !ever get within fifty feet of anyone doijg anything you think is remotely spicy, for your safety and theirs.
Now I’m just confused.
You’re a danger to yourself and those around you. And it doesn’t seem malevolent, which is scarier.
Being tracked is control enough for me. But I do understand it in dangerous situations, returning through forest at night etc.
I don’t see it as being tracked, though. I trust my wife (and my sister) to not be checking it 24/7.
The specified recipient is your partner.
But that data gets created, so it’s vulnerable. Commercial aps on your phone, sketchy apps youve never heard of like facebook, google services, and potentially something from your carrier, plus the government in mosy cases, will have access, phone home, record it.
Then it gets transmitted to your partner somebody('s code) does this. Even if it’s e2ee, you need a program to do that, abd the general rule with phone apps is that your data is being sold.
Then it gets to your partners phone, where it is again vulnerable to third parties their apps etc.
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I have location sharing between me and my friends because… What if something happens to any of us? That’s it, nothing else, I don’t spy on them.
If I was actively sharing locations with someone and theirs just abruptly vanished, I’d be concerned that something happened to them… either share or don’t share.
Sounds like trust issues
I’ve never really bothered with relationships, and everytime I see some shit like this, it validates that choice.
This is atypical.
It CC we’s not uncommon honestly. From someone in their mid twenties I’d say at minimum 40% of people I know in a relationship have something like this set up and that’s being generous. I’ve never done it and no person I’ve dated has pushed it but it’s far from atypical
I mean believing you’re cheating if you protest.
