Stephen King is absolutely the next person I think is going to have some heinous shit come out about him, like happened with Gaiman. Too many years writing in a cocaine haze, on record defenses of Woody Allen marrying the step daughter he raised, the whole thing with the ending of IT.
Not commenting on the Epstein List, tbh it’s political football and I don’t know if we’ll ever have anything confirmed until well after anyone who could be impacted by it is gone. King’s just one of those people who if you look close enough there’s reasons to be suspicious, but who is such an industry giant that I think no one wants to say anything.
Of all the things to publicly tell on yourself with. Damn man.
Nobody is going to release a real list because it will exclusively hurt the rich and powerful.
Trump Part 1 didn’t, Biden didn’t, Trump won’t do it now.
There definitely is a list. Probably not a spreadsheet or a black book, but you have to make schedules and appointments work. Double booking diddlers is bad business. There are records.
What has been established by the media is that there is a list (whether true or not) and being on that list is damning. Unfortunately we’re at a point where if a list is released, anyone with a brain would have to doubt it as being nothing more than a political tool, and anyone without a brain will immediately try to crucify anyone on it.
All the back and forth and hemming and hawing buys time to figure out who to put on the list. Get all the Democrat names you like, but finding enough Republicans to put on the list, but not anyone who’ll rat (preferably dead) is the tricky part. Gotta make it halfway believable.
It’s sad that instead of bringing the worst people in our society to justice, this will either be swept under the rug or set fire to the Reichstag.
I’d like to remind this thread not to jump to conclusions. It’s not exactly unheard of for a notorious coke addict to be confidently wrong about something. I’ll believe he’s a sicko when I see his name on the list and not a second sooner.
Edit: Am I really being downvoted for not immediately joining a mob and instead waiting for proof? “We did it
redditlemmy!”Wow, the replies on some of King’s tweets are really telling…
No chance that chode isn’t a trump supporter.
E: also, I didn’t realize just how many of King’s books involve child abuse… I knew about the obvious ones, but goddamn…
That’s interesting. I read most of his books and I really can’t recall anything in that regard. Between he’s famous for being a horror author although he wrote a few non-fiction books. The human psyche and inner monologues of the character along with descriptions of villains and why they became the monsters they are, are recurring topics in his books. Might it be that this is the reason why they involve child abuse? Remember Dutroix? He was abused as child.
Anyways I can’t really recall any scenes in his books where he delved more into that topic than appropriate.
Edit: I’m trying not to have idols or parasocial relations and it’s been years since I read the last SK book. So my memory may be clouded a bit. Other than the scene from “The Jaunt” (which I haven’t read), I haven’t found anything after a quick search. If it turns out he’s a pedo I won’t defend him. But regarding from what I know about him as person from the biographical texts, and stuff he wrote on social media and how meticulously he deconstructed evil personalities in his books, I can’t imagine this being anymore than a witchhunt.
The “orgy” mentioned is almost certainly the gross group kid sex thing from IT. How do you defeat the evil clown demon, kid orgies apparently :(
Yeah I read “It” of course. But I was 16 or so. I often heard about the orgy but I really can’t recall it. Maybe it was censored in the localized book or I did not perceive it as that bad as people make it. AFAIK it was after they defeated the spider being in the sewers. King still did substance abuse when he wrote It and surrounding this debacle I often see people accusing him of still doing it though he is clean and dry for decades now.
Yes the scene may have been inappropriate but it certainly wasn’t meant to be pedophilia:
“In 2013, Stephen King (through his office manager Marsha DeFillipo) shared on the message board of his official site what the controversial scene in the sewers represents, and begins by explaining that, at the time, he wasn’t thinking of the sexual aspect of it. Instead, he wrote it as the connecting link between childhood and adulthood, as the Losers Club knew they had to be together again, and described it as “another version of the glass tunnel that connects the children’s library and the adult library.” King added that he’s aware that, with time, there has been more sensitivity and attention to issues like the underage sex depicted in IT’s sewer scene.”
https://screenrant.com/stephen-king-it-beverly-sewer-scene-meaning-explained/
What I find way more disgusting is the lynchmob behaviour of people in this thread who never read anything from King and don’t know him in general and them even accusing other users of being pedophiles.
I am well aware of his official explanation, but I personally think that’s bullshit. For the record, I am not in any way calling him a pedophile. His books just have a lot of fucked up shit in them, and this is one of them. I read IT when I was 13 and I kinda glossed over that part as well. When I re-read IT as an adult, I was like “holy shit”. I realize this was written during his coked up days, but that doesn’t make it OK to me. You are free to feel differently.
I mean, he wrote IT so idk if this would surprise anyone lol
You telling me there’s a chance that a writer, known for snorting enough cocaine to kill an elephant whilst writing a story where a group of boys run a train on a young girl, might have visited an island known for its drugs and sex trafficking young girls?
🤔
I know it sounds like a stretch, but yes.
I don’t think a lot of people read the book. Anyone who has knows that Stephen King shouldn’t be around children.
It’s nice of the people on the list to out themselves. At this rate we can just compile it ourselves.
Huh. I thought he publicly quit twitter and moved to
blue skythreads?https://xcancel.com/stephenking/status/1857165864346267891?s=46&t=PJVWm80PofrGWNJIfp3Bsw
That part of IT might make a whole lot more sense all the sudden
don’t you hate it when a problematic part ends up being actually problematic and not something that can be chucked up to cocaine?
If you know you know. If you don’t, asking about it gets entire posts nuked.
Whaaaaat? Why would they erase stuff about a sewer clo… Oh that scene, yeah, absolutely.
Lol. Guess who’s on the list. 🤣🤣
This is the most obvious reasoning by far.
My first thought , he was on that island a lot
Man, who would’ve thought that the guy who wrote a child orgy scene would turn out to be a pedophile? Edit: Didn’t expect this to blow up and result in multiple bans… whoops.
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How does any of that in any way justify him writing a scene where a group of 11-12 year olds have a sex orgy?
Why does he have to justify his story to you? It’s fiction, as in not real. No one asked you if it was okay, but thanks for letting us know you don’t think it is. Millions upon millions of readers don’t agree with you.
No one asked you to reply to the op, either, yet you did. Why is it okay for you to say your take, but not for me to?
Because it’s a public forum built for discussion? Unlike a fictional novel. Next!
We can’t voice our opinions on a novel?
…a novel which is being discussed in a public forum, yes. I do appreciate when people end their posts with “Next!” because nobody who’s worth conversing with would ever do that. Lets me know who not to continue wasting my time with.
Bingo! (:
Look, I don’t know why you feel the need to defend a part of a book that is, as you just said, a Child Orgy, but you do you, and maybe you should talk to a therapist.
All I can say is; when I write about children, or think about children in any way, I don’t ever think about them having sex, whether that be with adults or other children.
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Pedophile.
I came too late to see what the guy said, almost makes me want to know, but I think it’s better that I don’t.
You realize he wrote the book right? Like he had literary control over it, he could have just as easily not put in a child orgy
OMG?! Did he?! And someone published it after having read it. And people bought it and didn’t burn him at the stake for it.
Kay? And? Child based orgies are a gross thing to include in a book
Understood. You are free to not read it.
No shit Sherlock, but writing about children having orgies is fucked up
And people are free to call out how creepy it is, as well as the people defending a child orgy scene.
And that’s just one instance of kid sex in King’s books… You gonna defend the scene from The Library Policeman where King describes a young boy being raped in graphic detail too?
What?
The novel, It, by Stephen King has a scene as described. That book took a hard, weird turn. The whole scene wasn’t needed for the story.
No, I understand that much. I’m asking why this weirdo is acting like the premise isn’t weird based on the given context.
They tried to give more? context in defense? of the writing?
Idk they’re being weird I think.
Wow, what a massive POS, and misusing “UFO” to boot. Yeah, everyone has seen something flying that they couldn’t identify at some point or another. “UFO” does not automatically mean “extraterrestrial spacecraft.”
Yeah… All dude had to say was, “Yeah, I meant of course that a literal list of clients with the big fat title “Client List” doesn’t exist.” Instead he doubles down? Why is everyone suddenly just a balls to the wall massive troll and douche? Man, fuck these people so hard they can never rape children or protect those that do again.
“I’m just the guy that’s going to fuck you so hard your assholes going to be dragging behind you like a tail” - Vigilante
What claim is he even trying to make here? “Everyone knows someone who’s seen [the Epstein files]”? Nobody’s seen them, and nobody knows anyone who has, and that’s the whole issue.
He’s acting strangely compared to the way he’s been in the past. Did he have a Fetterman stroke or something?
He’s a former coke addict and an alcoholic. That shit really catches up with you as you age. My father was a cocaine addict and drunk for decades before he cleaned up. He’s already had multiple strokes, a double bypass, and a severe bladder infection and he’s barely cracked 60. Conversations with him are hard because the strokes left him with difficulties formulating a sentence let alone holding a coherent opinion on any topic deeper than the weather.
I know he’s had substance abuse issues in the past, and that does make a lot of sense. It’s sad.
Tell me you’re on that list without telling me you’re on that list.
didn’t this dickhead also pose with an “I’m speaking” t-shirt after Harris used it to silence anti genocide protesters?
anyway i hope people remember this next time they read It and reach the part that was very predictably left out from the movie
classic liberal.
they are preferable to conservatives, just like a bowl of sawdust is preferable to a bowl of poisoned feces.
Tucker said it out already. They did not leave you to connect the dots; They literally left you with a complete line with only one missing dot to connect. Even the dumbest MAGAts could see through it.
