This is giving strong “I hope nobody finds out I went to Epstein island” vibes.
Vibes? I can feel the shaking all the way over here.
As a writer, how can he be this clueless about character continuity and congruency?
All this does is implicate his involvement. I know he was coked out of his mind for decades but I never would’ve associated him with Epstein previously… Come to think of it, cocaine was probably how he met Epstein/Trump.
I’m gonna be hopeful and assume that he means there’s probably no outright list of customers, as in, no black book with names, phone numbers and who they abused, but instead emails, messages etc that link a lot of very powerful people to disgusting crimes.
I never heard anything about the list specifying which celebrity abused which child. I thought it was — at most — people who are strongly implicated through Epstein’s private comms, documents, etc.
We already know who went to the island, but simply accepting a holiday from a billionaire doesn’t imply involvement with his criminal syndicate.
Man, who would’ve thought that the guy who wrote a child orgy scene would turn out to be a pedophile? Edit: Didn’t expect this to blow up and result in multiple bans… whoops.
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How does any of that in any way justify him writing a scene where a group of 11-12 year olds have a sex orgy?
Why does he have to justify his story to you? It’s fiction, as in not real. No one asked you if it was okay, but thanks for letting us know you don’t think it is. Millions upon millions of readers don’t agree with you.
No one asked you to reply to the op, either, yet you did. Why is it okay for you to say your take, but not for me to?
Because it’s a public forum built for discussion? Unlike a fictional novel. Next!
We can’t voice our opinions on a novel?
…a novel which is being discussed in a public forum, yes. I do appreciate when people end their posts with “Next!” because nobody who’s worth conversing with would ever do that. Lets me know who not to continue wasting my time with.
Bingo! (:
Look, I don’t know why you feel the need to defend a part of a book that is, as you just said, a Child Orgy, but you do you, and maybe you should talk to a therapist.
All I can say is; when I write about children, or think about children in any way, I don’t ever think about them having sex, whether that be with adults or other children.
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Pedophile.
I came too late to see what the guy said, almost makes me want to know, but I think it’s better that I don’t.
What?
The novel, It, by Stephen King has a scene as described. That book took a hard, weird turn. The whole scene wasn’t needed for the story.
No, I understand that much. I’m asking why this weirdo is acting like the premise isn’t weird based on the given context.
They tried to give more? context in defense? of the writing?
Idk they’re being weird I think.
You realize he wrote the book right? Like he had literary control over it, he could have just as easily not put in a child orgy
OMG?! Did he?! And someone published it after having read it. And people bought it and didn’t burn him at the stake for it.
Kay? And? Child based orgies are a gross thing to include in a book
Understood. You are free to not read it.
No shit Sherlock, but writing about children having orgies is fucked up
And people are free to call out how creepy it is, as well as the people defending a child orgy scene.
And that’s just one instance of kid sex in King’s books… You gonna defend the scene from The Library Policeman where King describes a young boy being raped in graphic detail too?
I was just reading up on this subject, and for the life of me, even if King believes this to be true, I can’t understand why he wouldn’t just keep his trap shut.
I think there are two different lists people are talking about. One of them definitely exists, and the other one may or may not exist.
There is no doubt that law enforcement has created a list of Epstein’s clients. It was even the subject of a judge’s order. There are probably many such lists of people who have definitely given Epstein money, for example.
The question is whether there was some sort of list that Epstein kept himself, which probably would only be useful for blackmail purposes. If there is no blackmail intended, then Epstein probably would have intentionally avoided making such a list, which would also incriminate himself and could possibly get him killed. The existence of this list was originally asserted by right wing conspiracy theorists during Biden’s presidency. It seems the only person who has confirmed this list exists is Pam Bondi, who is completely incompetent, but lies frequently in order to cover for her incompetence.
This list may or may not exist. But I think if you assert at this point that it doesn’t exist, it only makes you look like a pedophile. It seems the height of stupidity to say that it doesn’t exist if you don’t have a horse in the race.
Epstein probably would have intentionally avoided making such a list, which would also incriminate himself and could possibly get him killed
Exactly. If such a list existed he would surely not survive long in jai … oh
It’s really funny how all this denial is focused on the existence of a concrete “list.” What everybody means, and what anyone honest knows, is that the request is for the release of a list of the people who went to the Epstein island and were associated with the convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein himself.
If you can convict Maxwell, there is evidence of what happened. Whether or not someone has already written a list is completely irrelevant.
There are exactly two types of people who would deny this:
- Die hard, believe-anything-Trump-is-saying-today, MAGA faithful
- paedophiles or people otherwise on the list
I wonder which one Stephen King is…
Also:
This also reminded me that in his short story “The Jaunt” Stephen King felt the need to include the following lines for no apparent reason:
Ricky and Pat were watching him seriously, his son twelve, his daughter nine. He told himself again that Ricky would be deep in the swamp of puberty and his daughter would likely be developing breast by the time they got back to earth, and again found it difficult to believe.
This.
Everyone knows the scene from IT and how disgusting it is but many do not understand that King has a long history of pedophilic tendencies when writing teenage girls in almost all of his works.
In Carrie he has a section that takes an odd focus on how nice her legs look, in Under the Dome there is a lengthy description of an pubescent girl’s pubic hair, etc…
Like, I get he is a horror writer and that means depicting scenes that are intentionally written to be uncomfortable is part of the genre, which includes scenes of sexual violence and abuse, but there are ways to accomplish these depictions without the unnecessary sexualization of underage girls.
It’s nice of the people on the list to out themselves. At this rate we can just compile it ourselves.
Wow, what a massive POS, and misusing “UFO” to boot. Yeah, everyone has seen something flying that they couldn’t identify at some point or another. “UFO” does not automatically mean “extraterrestrial spacecraft.”
What claim is he even trying to make here? “Everyone knows someone who’s seen [the Epstein files]”? Nobody’s seen them, and nobody knows anyone who has, and that’s the whole issue.
He’s acting strangely compared to the way he’s been in the past. Did he have a Fetterman stroke or something?
He’s a former coke addict and an alcoholic. That shit really catches up with you as you age. My father was a cocaine addict and drunk for decades before he cleaned up. He’s already had multiple strokes, a double bypass, and a severe bladder infection and he’s barely cracked 60. Conversations with him are hard because the strokes left him with difficulties formulating a sentence let alone holding a coherent opinion on any topic deeper than the weather.
I know he’s had substance abuse issues in the past, and that does make a lot of sense. It’s sad.
Yeah… All dude had to say was, “Yeah, I meant of course that a literal list of clients with the big fat title “Client List” doesn’t exist.” Instead he doubles down? Why is everyone suddenly just a balls to the wall massive troll and douche? Man, fuck these people so hard they can never rape children or protect those that do again.
“I’m just the guy that’s going to fuck you so hard your assholes going to be dragging behind you like a tail” - Vigilante
Yeah that analogy is a pretty shitty one. There are legitimate reasons to be skeptical about UFOs/UAPs/Flying Saucers, or whatever you want to call them, even if I do not believe in batshit crazy conspiracies related to them. There are no reasons to believe that Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy can be real, that is just folklore.
Shocking that someone like him, would do such a ill-conceived analogy, even if anyone considers that in modern society, alien shit can be considered folklore, it is still very much within the realm of possibility.
Shocking that someone like him would do such a ill-conceived analogy
It really was notable. I agree with another commenter who said King’s substance abuse past seems to be catching up with him. He sounds like a snarky right-wing asshole, and he used to be better than that.
Lol. Guess who’s on the list. 🤣🤣
This is the most obvious reasoning by far.
My first thought , he was on that island a lot
That part of IT might make a whole lot more sense all the sudden
If you know you know. If you don’t, asking about it gets entire posts nuked.
Whaaaaat? Why would they erase stuff about a sewer clo… Oh that scene, yeah, absolutely.
don’t you hate it when a problematic part ends up being actually problematic and not something that can be chucked up to cocaine?
“I am the author’s thinly-veiled fetish” is a phrase and a meme for a reason.
thinly veiled?
Bet he’s on that list the fucking nonce
The guy did write about a bunch of children running a train on another child to “recharge their matches” in the book ‘it’ acting like it was a liberating experiance.
Guy also described a girl pissing and shitting herself in “the girl who lived tom gordon” in detail which weirded me out even as a kid
At the time I read The Girl I thought that part was a bold move. Drinking random creek water will totally do that to you and I liked that he didn’t pull his punches just because the character was a girl.
Then I read his other works. I’m pretty sure he’s into kids. There’s a small benefit of the doubt that it’s his version of a dead baby joke and he does it just to fuck with readers, but I’m too jaded to expect he’s not dicking children himself.
Sounds a lot like Stephen King is very likely to be a pedophile that has raped children on Epstein’s island 🤔
It certainly seems like It may be the case
subtle
I can’t believe how fast people are willing to say this based on such tenuous evidence as this post of his. “very likely”?? I think you all should get a grip on yourselves.
i agree. by the way i just want to say i never killed a prostitute if anyone was wondering.
I’ve never intentionally farted in a bratty kids face in a line before.
I’m glad we’re putting an end to these conspiracy theories right here
Yeah, he just happens to have written close to a dozen books or more that involve child abuse. Its just a reoccurring theme, nothing more.
I hope these folks never serve on a jury :(
It costs nothing to shut the fuck up.
I can believe there’s no neat little notepad with a bunch of names on it, but there’s definitely a shit load of evidence incriminating a bunch of powerful people, given what we already know.
I think we might not need the “list” released, but let’s just make public the whole Epstein file
I’d like to remind this thread not to jump to conclusions. It’s not exactly unheard of for a notorious coke addict to be confidently wrong about something. I’ll believe he’s a sicko when I see his name on the list and not a second sooner.
Edit: Am I really being downvoted for not immediately joining a mob and instead waiting for proof? “We did it
redditlemmy!”
