Remote work has been studied extensively for decades and the findings overwhelmingly show that remote workers, when provided the right tools and support, are significantly more productive. Demanding people commute to an office was never about productivity.
gets to office and signs into zoom meeting
my wife kept getting pressured to go into a specific office location every week. 2-3 hour commute each way to sit at a desk on video calls with little IRL interaction
Who owns commercial and office property? Guessing most aren’t by non executive, non board member, working class
https://realestate.usnews.com/real-estate/articles/commercial-real-estate-market-trends
There’s a reason they combine office with data centers and the rest of commercial has been down
They made a bad decision gambling on overvalued office and commercial property leases and want to push their loss onto workers because they love to socialize the losses and privatize the gains
IMHO, it depends on the role. Do you have a role that benefits from in person collaboration, or do you have a role where focus is the priority?
People get into warring camps about remote or onsite work, and we rarely talk about engineers, designers, accountants, etc. having very different needs. One size doesn’t fit all.
It’s not about productivity.
It’s about control.
Guess who gets to work in private offices instead of the “productivity enhancing” open offices!
When my last company went to an open office plan, everybody (even the CEO) had to be out in the open because the whole company moved into one big room (with a little cordoned-off area for meetings). Granted, this was because we were on the edge of folding and we moved into the one big room to save on rent. But it did produce a nice “we’re all in this together” vibe because it sucked ass for everyone.
This point i don’t get…in all my jobs, team leads, department managers and basically all management level employees are sitting in the same open office as everyone else. I have never been somewhere where this is not the case. Is this a predominantly American thing?
They’re talking about the c-suites who make the decision to call everyone back to office, I presume
Yup, director level and above get their own office
CSuite get their own entrance and tunnel, don’t want to enter with the rest of the plebs and walk in the same hallway
Work remotely if you care about speed. Work in-person if you care about velocity.
Is this you being silly or is this an actual thing?
Uuh, I remember the London Tube.
It’s so soul draining (noticed the empty eyes and avoidance of eye-contact) that it convinced me to start commuting to work by bicycle in London when it wasn’t all that common (and which ultimately took around the same time).
Bike commuting kind of rules though.
how to tell if a tube photo was taken in summer:
Why? They are not wearing summer clothes
I don’t overthink people’s expressions on trains, nor do I think we should be taking pics of people who look upset because they look upset.
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It’s easier to just say “just because something is legal doesn’t make it okay”.
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Trains are a much more desirable way to get to work than driving is.
Environmentally, absolutely…personally? I absolutely fucking hate using public transport. I’d take 90min of sitting still in traffic alone in my car over bumping and griding with random strangers for 90min on a train any day.
I’m counting down the months until my work relocates to our new head office. I can say goodbye to the 35-75 minute commute (each way), and have a reliable ~60min train ride.
Sure it might take longer, overall - but I’ll be able to relax by reading a book, taking a nap or playing a game. I’d much rather that than deal with the anxiety of bumper-to-bumper traffic in a sea of SUVs filled with inattentive drivers.
I literally drive past at least one accident every day on my way to work. The Monash Highway in Victoria, IYKYK.
It really is the least talked about benefit to public transport, yet is so significant. Sure you can’t do too much but you can watch a show/movie, play a game, read, write, draw or even do your taxes and shop from your phone and laptop.
Certainly can’t do that driving around. And it let’s you relax and change from work mode to home mode. Even if you have to do a little drive to and from the station.
Plus like you mentioned, less chance of delays and being involved in accidents. Win win win win.
I always try to argue this when people say they’d rather drive to commute.
When you drive both you and your employer lose time. When you take a train you keep your time in a way.
I enjoy the drive a lot. However, I also don’t live in a big city, so the drive is nice.
Never thought I’d find myself in agreement with The Dark Lord, yet here I am…
taking a nap
Well, I see you don’t live in America lol.
Significantly more productive than anyone forced to commute by car.
Curious why you say that. I used to do the slog to lower Manhattan every day, 90 minutes by train, and another 10 or 20 minute walk, depending where I was going. I’d get back in the train later in the day knowing I should open the laptop up and work, but just couldn’t do it.
Now, in fairness, if I was driving 90-120m, I’d kill myself. But at least I’d do so listening to the Wheel of Time audiobook.
And extra fairness, my job went remote after COVID (for the majority of it). Public meetings have returned to in person sadly, but my day work is 90% remote. And on those rare occasions I get dragged out of my home wearing a suit, I do so belligerently. I’m done showing up 20-30m early, I get there when I get there. And I gotta leave early now too. I have really just started to not give a fuck, which is not great as an independent contractor.
Now, in fairness, if I was driving 90-120m, I’d kill myself. But at least I’d do so listening to the Wheel of Time audiobook.
I’ve never had trouble listening to audiobooks on the train (assuming I knew the route well enough).
And on those rare occasions I get dragged out of my home wearing a suit, I do so belligerently. I’m done showing up 20-30m early, I get there when I get there. And I gotta leave early now too.
Which is fine.
But I’ve found a lot of merit in the personal collaborations with coworkers that only really happen in an office setting. I’m in office hybrid - three days a week - and I mentor new hires, grab lunch with senior managers, get tipped off on problems from people I pass in the hallway, and occasionally just shoot the shit with people I’d never otherwise know existed if I wasn’t in the building.
I value my Work from Home, but also get a lot of mileage from a communal office.
They don’t care about this part at all. This is your time. It’s your fault for not being rich.
White shirt guy maybe, probably either at making you extremely mediocre coffee (looks too straight to be a good barista) or doing something like the ux design for the app interface to a microchip that doesnt let your dog love you without microtransactions. The owners are lobbying for it to be mandatory, and all dogs without it will be liquidated by 2030. The app is spyware written by a large language model, and only sometimes works. Iphone only.
Tan jacket lady maaaaaaaybe.
Black+white checkered shirt guy is a cop, he’s already at work. He’ll be very productive later, already planning on attending the protest.
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You guys don’t understand that this is is the goal. Happy rested people thinl a lot, demand things, want a better life. Unhappy and exausted people only want to go home and go to sleep, they loose their souls and think that this is better enough. Those are easy to control
It’s not a conspiracy, it’a a distributed systematic failure that can only be solved by cultural change.
Luigi is culture right?
Wahoo
I think its a conspiracy fact
Plus, look at the great job of keeping commercial real estate prices high they’re all doing
There’s at least one time traveler in this picture
