The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

Just when I feel like dystopian news can’t really disturb me anymore…

Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all…

How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target’s family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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      It’s not normal. It’s ok until the majority of America accepts what can really be done with that database Trump is having Palantir build.

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        i think the military has been using thiels palintir for at least 10 years already. TRump just made it more obvious, because hes a loudmouth. thiel loved to stay out of the spotlight of the news for many reasons. everytime he was in the news, its never is good for him.

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      It is “statistically” normal in that governments and corporations will always choose death because it is profitable.

      It is not and never has been ok.

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      Europeans did the genocide and took over America, in a much larger scale. Israel is just a smaller copy cat. The fact USA exists justifies what Israel does.

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              Equating Israel to USA in its right to exist is not swallowing its cock.

              They are right. Except one problem still can be solved, the other not so much. Maybe a few centuries after now somebody will think of something. Slow demographic changes and more modern weapons, that stuff.

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        And everyone in their family, building, and general vicinity, and anyone in that 10% of targets who are misidentified by Palantir’s predictive policing/facial recognition tech apparently?

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      they have been doing this for decades, even to the point clandestine type novel stories are often written about them.

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      It should be normal. People helping an evil state get nukes, deserve to die. Unfortunately what’s normal nowadays is sitting around fat and lazy and letting NK become a nuclear power.

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          Well they were less evil back then… now I think we should cut off all support. And I think we probably would stop the donations, if it wasn’t for Iran being allied with Ruzzia.

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    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel’s current actions say this wasn’t a simple “what if…” contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.

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      Fuck, also explains why Netenyahu jumped at the opportunity as soon as he avoided having his government dissolved by vote. Fuuuuck this is so much evil bullshit.

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    Think about this when you see politicians trying to pass absurd laws like banning all regulation of AI. AI is a cover to remove any last semblance of accountability for atrocious and illegal activities

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    This is state sanctioned mass murder. This is state terror attacks across a national border. This is so unethical and obviously illegal, I don’t know what else to say about it.

    We need to distance ourselves from Israel. We need to stop giving them weapons. Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them, I am partially responsible, and this is not “ok”. I do not want to be doing this, I never wanted this…

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      Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them,

      And we are giving millions in contracts to Palantir to help them create these nightmare AI projects with zero oversight.

      Alex Karp’s biography makes it pretty clear he’s trying to spin this shit as every American’s patriotic duty to support, and no different than the Manhattan project (as if that’s something great to aspire to in the first fucking place) during WWII.

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    Anyone who gets uncomfortable with government surveillance because it could be used to target certain demographics of people needs to look no further than what Israel has done to prove their point.

    The only thing stopping the world from autonomously targeting people by online demographic is common human decency, and humanity is running on very short supply of that these days.

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      But that is their dream for the future. Purely automatically managing the populace as some sort of a farm.

      It’s an arms race. Like at any other point in history. Between those who think personal dignity and freedom and equality are a mistake of history or a device to keep the herd patient, and that they deserve to rule, and those who don’t.

      The good part is that this has already been tried. A fast system with deadlocks is not that different from a slow system with deadlocks. And a big redundant system deterministically degrading in itself is not that different from a smaller less redundant system deterministically degrading in itself. No USSR and no Nazi Germany anymore on the map.

      The parts about lying and false pretense of law and democracy are new, but not too much - rulers of Frederic the Great’s time had false pretenses of knightly behavior and following imperial mechanisms. One can even compare 30 years war to our two world wars in the sense of creating a new world order, which was considered impossible to change due to endless horrors following that, but eventually become a farce.

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    I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.

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      There is no “international authority”. It’s all big stick politics out there. It’s like trying to go after a corporation in the US. The “punishments” when they break the law are fines, if that, and any admonishment not to fuck over the same person in the same way again.

      Think about your boss shorting you $100. The “legal” process involves YEARS of waiting for a court date, a labor code interpreted heavily in favor of the employer, and at the end of the day, they get fines and maybe have to pay back what you rightfully earned in the first place.

      Now think about what happens when you steal $100 from work. Immediate police involvement, possible arrest, absolute legal consequences even if you’re cleared years later, the presumption of guilt from everyone in society.

      It’s even worse on a political stage. Nobody has the moral fortitude to step forward and fix shit because it’s broken. Everyone just waits around until the collective consciousness supports some sort of social consequence on the offender in question. That’s not even tying race or religion into the mix, which Israel loves to twist up into their particular brand of nationalism.

      The civil world is simply too polite to call them out for all their shit. It’s a whole world full of chickenshit and I am tired of the stink.

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        It’s like that saying goes: “The law is the same for everyone, neither the king nor the beggar may sleep under a bridge.”

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          That’s BS. The king would never need to sleep under a bridge and if he chose to the police would be there to kick out the homeless people and make sure the king is safe for the night.

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      Trying to give Iran nukes is pretty close to accompliss to mass murder. Iran is a terrorist state.

      Anyone should reasonably be trying to negotiate to avoid loss of life but at the end of the day killing them may be the lesser of two evils from the perspective of the would be target.

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      This isn’t how anything works. No government cedes this kind of authority to anyone and trying to enforce it would lead to war even among allies.

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        The alternative is “drop bombs”.

        Rounding up leaders and putting them on trial seems like a more civilized international approach than engaging in the same bloodthirsty, explosive, surprise-murder that is literally the whole problem here.

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          You don’t have the alternative to go into other people’s country and round up people because people will absolutely shoot any such folks then drop bomb’s on your cities and forces. It’s not my fault you are confused about what the options are.

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      You have been playing too much rainbow six. There are no good guys in the halls of power looking after us.

      There are only the rich fucks over here and the rich fucks over there pulling the levers of power.

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    They are flying jets, using drones, and even small explosives. The homes of these scientists were severely damaged. The richest countries of the world are backing Israel.

    Is this just Israel putting out propaganda? These scientists thought they were safe at home. Sinister! Super secret weapon that blows up apartment buildings. Sounds revolutionary!

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      As usual this is teenage boy logic. They are posing with their guns as recruitment propaganda. No it’s a super secret magic cool gun from god you haven’t even heard of it because it’s so futuristic and we’re cool so not at all evil, right

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    1. what a stupid fucking name
    2. why does Israel get to have nuclear weapons
    3. why does no one ask question 2
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        Why not?

        Daily on Lemmy there are thousands of calls to murder X or Y person who doesn’t agree with collectivist ideology.

        Why would it be different for them?

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      Unfortunately the answer is pretty simple. The USA and Israel are best buddies and if the USA says their buddy can have a nuclear arsenal who is going to stand up and tell them otherwise?

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    Marking people for assassination looks normal to the times of Israel. Nice people.

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      It’s guaranteed the number of bystanders that were killed while they killed these “targets” is not zero.

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    Let me fix the headline - Israel commits more state sponsored terrorist attacks in neighbouring countries.

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    The only difference between Israel and a terrorist organization is PR and budget.

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    Murdered. Not killed, murdered.

    Both technically true, but the way they write killed suggests it wasn’t murder in cold blood, an act of war against another country to bully and control them.

    Murder.