Why would I pay the government to collect a pool of money to pay for other people’s medical needs?
Much better to pay a private company to collect a pool of money, skim a bunch for profit, invest the rest for more profit, conspire to make healthcare prices unaffordable to users so they don’t have a choice anyway, and then use that money only to pay for some of the other people’s medical needs while denying healthcare for the rest, including myself? It’s a much better system. Here’s a link to an article funded by a US pharmaceutical company…
But as an upshot it shackles people to their job by tying Healthcare to employment, which means you get all these nice wage slaves that can’t afford to quit so you can suppress their wage, and they can’t break into their own businesses without the capital from those suppressed wages, which means even less competition for you.
I see no downsides to this /s
Nah bro, it totally makes sense that IBX pays the Phillies millions of dollars for a jersey advertisement instead of investing that money into patient care. IBX totally cares because they made an ad at a local coffee shop!
Why would I pay the government to collect a pool of money to pay for other people’s medical needs?
Is the same as saying
Why would I pay for roads I will never drive on?
And people believe it!
“Why should I pay for someone who cannot work to live?”
“Why should I pay for water to be clean that I may never drink, or air I may never breathe?”
The corporate brainwashing is staggering.
I like to point out that animals take care of each other when they are injured. If civilization collapsed tomorrow, those hyper-individualists types would be the first ones to get targeted by natural selection
The rich people with jets don’t really care about the whole interstate system, just their neighborhood.
And those “other people” upset the racists. They view universal healthcare not as leveling the playing field, but riding mass transit. “Ew, <insert ‘lesser quality’> people.”
To me that’s the key to fighting Republican sentiment; they don’t trust the government, but it’s not a question of whether the government should control healthcare - it’s a question of WHO controls it. Same for a lot of other topics like environmental protection.
Well, if you don’t consider your eyes, teeth, medications, and mental health part of healthcare, then we definitely have universal healthcare.
And an inceeasing number of procedures and services are handed over from hospitals to for-profit entities, including nurse staffing. Canadian healtchcare is undergoing gradual privatization and that’s the playbook.
(I’m sure you know that, posting for non-Canadian onlookers)
Canada should say “trying to privatize”
In Ontario for sure, Doug Ford’s buddies
Also Marlaina
I bet if we stopped cutting funding there would be a lot more people as php. And not surprised the wealthy, and lesser educated are more interested in limiting Healthcare access
Yeah but recent governments in Canada along with the Canadian Medical Association have been actively sabotaging universal Healthcare to bring us closer to the American model.
Universal healthcare with American characteristics
Some people’s health is more equal than others
Mostly Ontario with Doug Ford, and maybe Alberta too.
Oh Québec too. And many other provinces. It’s a Canada wide problem.
canada isn’t far off from the states. what we don’t have in direct costs we make up for in wait times and things only covered by private insurance. If we don’t dust off the guillotines soon everything will end up privatised and america priced.
We have that in the US too. I waited 11 months to see a dermatologist, thankfully for something that wasn’t cancer. I got the bill an insurance covered $90 of the $425 bill… We wait too, and pay more.
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I’m in the US and where I live I can’t get a rheumatologist or counselor until January
It’s capitalism! Why would anyone want to be a doctor if they can’t be a multimillionaire? /s
Here in Australia, public healthcare too.
But our local right wing nutters like to argue it isn’t a thing
They want to keep the population desperate
Sadly conservatives like Doug Ford are trying to move Canada towards the US model to enrich their buddies :(
Lmao our healthcare system in mexico is a fucking joke. Google [Insert city here] desabasto imss. For example, and you will see that even though official figures say 90+% supply, the reality is much, much different.
There was a public hospital in Fresnillo I went to were they used punch cards computers and nurses were sitting around entering mountains of patient data using mechanical typewriters. All the ER trauma doctors where either out sick or on vacation. This was around 2009.
But the difference is that Mexico is now moving forward, believes in a future where things are better. The USA has given up on health care and it’s future. Chapo Trap House was spot on calling the Obama library the cenotaph of American hope.
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That too PRIVATE insurance companies only…
There are many ways to solve our healthcare problems in the US. Universal healthcare is one but simple price controls like seen in Japan is another. It doesn’t really matter as long as it is good policy and actually works. I know, that is a tall order for the US.
I like the solution where you start shooting health insurance company CEOs.
If price were the only issue sure, but there are a many other problems - oh you went to the ER? Or you picked a specific hospital/surgeon for something? Too bad, this one doctor isn’t in network.
You can only have a specific version of a medication because another is ineffective or you have an allergy or adverse reaction? Well that sucks, your insurance only covers this one type.
Your doctor ordered a specific set of tests? Your insurer can decide that they’re not medically necessary and overrule your doctor.
And so on… when the required amount of regulation is so vast that it touches every part of the system because it is just that bad…. Surely universal healthcare is the better option at that point?
I like the idea of Universal Healthcare for sure and I think it could be effective if the right policies were put in place.
I also recognize systems like Germany and Japan have can work with strict price controls.
I think there are probably solutions that no one has even considered that could be game changing. The possibilities are out there.
I do agree with your pragmatism though. Universal Healthcare works, why try to invent a new wheel so to speak
I also agree there are probably ideas out there that would revolutionise things in a great way (possibly globally?)which would be amazing! Human ingenuity is both incredible and terrifying 😅
Universal healthcare is “free healthcare” funded by taxes that prop up big pharmaceutical companies
It is a single payer system that allows bargaining to make meds reasonably prices. You want to talk about propping up “big pharma” that’s the American system
If I have cancer symptoms, I can just book an appointment with my GP. Appointment is free, tests are free, any cancer treatment would be free.
I don’t care if pharma is profiting, I pay less in taxes and still get most of my healthcare free (in the UK dental and non chronic prescriptions are subsidised but not free for adults). We don’t have to pay for insulin here!
Isn’t Canada part of North America?
Yes, hence its inclusion in this meme about North America.
I removed my comment a minute after I posted it, I guess it didn’t federate through?
