Trump’s army parade was neither the totalitarian North Korean spectacle that critics had grimly predicted, nor the triumph of MAGA nationalism fans craved

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    She defended Trump’s decision to ban transgender troops from the military, and complained that Biden had subjected the military to political correctness and DEI initiatives. “The military is not a social experiment.”

    The irony of saying this statement at a self-fellating and totally unnecessary military parade is too much

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      Ah … As someone with clearly different expectations (living in Russia) I’d say everything except being unable to march in lockstep and showing Coinbase ads was kinda fine, the big costume show in Russian parades doesn’t really cause any feeling of reverence and such.

      US military doesn’t have to show anything big on parades, because it, ahem, has modern jets, nukes, air carriers in bigger numbers than some countries have infantry vehicles.

      Probably a military ceremony should be organized better, but … it’s a theater anyway. A kind of that falling out of relevance, too.

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    I had the misfortune of hearing the opinions of some conservative family on the matter on Father’s Day.

    It was the best thing since sliced bread, apparently, and Trump “deserved” it because “it’s his birthday”, while “no one” showed up for the No Kings protests.

    Don’t ever be fooled into thinking that a lackluster performance will disappoint his fans.

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      June 4 from now on will be known as “NO KINGS” day .
      The delusional right might ignore the massive protests but the tide is turning, they will disavowal their allegiances to the orange Krasnov.

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      That’s what the media is telling them. Fox in particular, but the networks have been downplaying No Kings.

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    The American military doesn’t train to put on parade theatre for a despot. No high stepping, no elaborate formations or movements. None of that pointless bullshit. If you see a military parade from NK or China achieving dazzling perfect performances, while impressive, that’s all it is; a visual performance. All they do is practice for those events. Those are not uniforms. They’re costumes. Those are not soldiers. They’re a dance troupe. These are completely different skillsets. Soldiers don’t need to know how to dance perfectly in formation. They storm the objective, execute the mission, and get the fuck out. You might as well send a marching band into combat, because that’s all they would become.

    It’s funny how they want to force the US military into performing flamboyant pageantry, while also kicking out the gays.

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        To explain and expand a bit on this: Frederick the Great was likely gay or at least somewhat queer, but also a military innovator who laid the basis for Prussia’s iron discipline. Back then units were most effective when in perfect formation, but moving around the battlefield disrupted formation, hence the invention of the goose step to rapidly move units around on the battlefield without losing formation. Invented by a gay king.

        So today we’ve got homophobic dictators emulating that for pure theatre and looks, over a century after it has lost any military purpose.

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          Additionally I’ve heard suspicion that some of the traditional pomp and theatrics that flow back to him are because he found it attractive.

          If you’ve ever looked at all that dress military stuff snd thought that it just seemed a bit gayer than one would expect a military to get, just remember Frederick was that good. Like, made his small German kingdom into the European power of Prussia good.

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      All I can think of, is Monty Python’s Close Order Nastiness. “We know where you’ve been, you military fairy! OOOOOH”

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    I see the lackluster parade as a victory for democracy. Democracies don’t have massive goose-stepping parades in glory of their dear leader. That’s a fascist dictator thing, and surely what Trump wanted, but what he got was the kind of parade that you get in a democracy where the military exists for defense rather than tue glorification of the generalissimo.

    Well done, military peeps.

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    You know that Trump just told the generals to have ‘a parade.’

    Kim or Putin would know exactly which tanks and units he wanted, would have specified how many flyovers, and sweated all the details.

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    Man, I sure hope he went home and realized how much of a fucking loser he is. You know he won’t though. In his head it was fantasy land North Korea type spectacle. They’ll have some post about how it was bigly and bester than any other parade and how there just have been a million people in attendance with sold out tickets.