The 23-year-old was pulled out of the van, placed in handcuffs, and detained for about 25 minutes while the agent searched him. When the agents finally found his ID confirming his citizenship, the agents let him go — without offering any explanation or apology.
A 23-year-old electrician from Brentwood is speaking out after a disturbing encounter with federal immigration agents left him handcuffed and shaken, despite being a U.S. citizen.
Elzon Lemus says he was on the job, driving in a work van with his co-worker in Westbury when they were pulled over by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. The incident was recorded on Lemus’ phone.
“What’s up, guys? Can I see your ID, please?” an agent asks in the video.
When Lemus questions why they’re being stopped, the agent replies vaguely, “Cause you look like someone I’m looking for. Can I see your ID?”
Lemus continues, “Who are you looking for exactly? Because it’s definitely not me.”
The agent then warns him, “This is going to go one of two ways here. I need to see your ID — if you’re not the guy I’m looking for, you’re not the guy I’m looking for. But we need your ID.”
When Lemus continues to question why he’s being stopped the agent escalates and says “If we don’t get your ID we are going to need to figure out another way to ID you and that may not work out well for you.”
Isn’t illegally detaining folks a violation of their civil rights/freedoms? Pretty sure that one that isn’t protected by qualified immunity… fucking scum
Guilty until proven innocent
“Papers, please”
“You look like someone I’m looking for” seems to be a recurring quote from these guys.
Imagine having this in your car on a card and when ICE asks for your ID you pull this out.
Man, tfw I’m an immigrant, but I’m pale as the fucking moon so I can’t do this
They really hit the nail on the head with that cutaway
the last one is almost VANTA BLACK.
“You fit the profile”
Next is Stop and Frisk nationwide followed by “Papers Please”
Since when can ICE make traffic stops?
The Yankee Gestapo have been allowed to do what they want by The Fatboy Tangerine …and by the us population.
Since people started obeying them. If it’s not a cop, you don’t have to stop.
Lawsuit time and this one is legit.
Yes, the democracy is crumbling but at least some people will get paid.
Profiting from dictatorship must be the most American thing ever.
Honestly? I hope he gets his bread and pays for his family to go somewhere better.
Agreed, this is a clear cut Constitutional violation. Should be worth millions.
Take down individual names any time you have them. They are deciding to do those things individually, and they will answer individually to the citizens, when some bro stairs save america by being tripped upon by an ailing man, and it all starts crumbling and imploding.
Time to exercise the 2nd Ammendment
Then he’d just be dead.
Meh, I you could survive. ICE is like the most coward desk jockey law enforcement who only shoots a gun every 5 years to stay qualified. Before Homeland Security and ICE was formed, immigration officials were unarmed like IRS agents and social workers.
He’d probably have to go to trial but people have been acquitted of shooting cops and I think he’d have a good chance.
It’s a common theory that many of thr 1/6 rioters are now ICE members. So here is a list of the pardoned fucks. https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-january-6-prisoners-released-2018097
Can they legally ask if you aren’t suspected of a crime? Surely, driving to work is not a crime.
Bold of you to assume the law applies to them.
They said he looked like a suspect. Cough cough.
That’s not a reasonable suspicion of a crime.
Maybe being the guy that maybe did a crime isn’t good enough.
More to the point, being undocumented isn’t generally a crime- it’s a civil offense. The majority of people are either asylum seekers or people who’ve overstayed visas, rather than entering illegally.
Entering illegally is a misdemeanor, but over staying is not.
Yes, if you are driving you’re required by law in New York state to provide your driver’s license if asked.
If you’re walking to work you don’t have to carry ID, and you only have to identify yourself if they have a reasonable suspicion that you’re committing a crime.
Edit: Holy shit y’all are insane. I knew Lemmy was an echo chamber but mass downvoting simple, factual information like this really makes me think less of you.
No reasonable, articulable suspicion of crime? No ID.
You are required to show your driver’s license if you’re asked for it by law enforcement while driving in New York state.
Edit: Holy shit y’all are insane. I knew Lemmy was an echo chamber but mass downvoting simple, factual information like this really makes me think less of you.
Law enforcement is not permitted to randomly pull over vehicles. They provided no justification. This is clearly illegal.
“You look like someone we’re looking for” will get them pretty far in the courts. They don’t have to tell you who that person is, but by the time you sue and you’re going through the court process, they’ll find someone on their list who looks like you so that they can say “oh yeah it was this guy we were looking for, we promise” and the case gets dismissed.
Cops can always find a reason to pull you over. Also, they have no obligation to tell you why they did so. 1 mph over the speed limit? Valid traffic stop. You slowly drifted from the right side of the lane to the left side? Valid traffic stop in the eyes of the law.
Is it bullshit? Yes. Illegal? No.
Is the driver in the OP still required to provide his license when pulled over?
Yes.
Family lives near Brentwood and I can absolutely see ICE thugs doing this to them.
trump is looking for anyone to deport, hes trying to surpass obama dn bidens numbers.
He should have been a long Island ICE tea
Yes but he looks foreign which I think is enough these days
/S maybe.