• Tarkcanis@lemmy.world
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    This has been comming since 2002/2003 DHS was a huge fucking mistake, and should have been shut down ages ago.

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    Holy shit. Goon squads. They don’t even identify themselves??

    Imagine a hypothetical scenario where a group of random citizens gang up on an ICE agent during their Sunday stroll and handcuff them, and throw them off a bridge somewhere, handcuffs still on.

    How would a sheriff know that they aren’t ICE agents themselves? Or are we going by skin colour?

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      They don’t ID themselves and show a warrant? Fight back. Fuck it. Nothing to lose now. Never go with feds quietly.

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        Nothing to lose now.

        Except your freedom, job or life.

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          If you’re being apprehended by ICE, you’re almost certainly losing some of those no matter how you respond. I don’t know that you’ve got better chances if you fight back alone, but if people around you join in and try to unarrest you, you might have a shot at going home that evening.

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            If you’re the one guy being arrested, fighting against 10 agents will only get you bruises and additional charges.

            If you’re one of the witnesses the chances of unarresting someone are slim and the chances of going to jail are big. I would admire anyone who’s brave enough to do it but sad truth is that there are very few people like that out there.

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              Nope. Fighting will get me killed. I ALWAYS have a knife on me. I’ll take at least two of the shit stains with me though. I know lots of places to strike where you will bleed out in less than a minute.

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                No you won’t. Knives are s shit weapon. You pull it , you get shot.

                Smoke and fear are far more potent weapons.

                Can’t apprehend what you can’t see

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                  It is in fact amazingly difficult to actually shoot someone who is already at knifing distance who is intent on both cutting you and not getting shot. You can get past the muzzle of a gun very easily at melee distance, especially if all the other guy has is a rifle. And you only need one hand to keep control of your opponent’s gun if you have any modicum of skill. You don’t have to keep him from shooting it and in fact you probably won’t, but all you have to do is keep him from shooting it at you.

                  You will get shot by his buddies, sure, but not before you’ve stuck your pigsticker in his spleen.

                  This is why the oinkers are always so keen on the 21 foot rule.

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                  I’ve been shot before. That doesn’t stop me, unless they get lucky. I agree about smoke, but if they come to my house, I have molotovs.

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              Sure, but if I’m going to be kidnapped and sent to a black box prison to die, I don’t know if I would care much about that.

              Bystanders who are obviously white and documentably citizens are in the best position to try to unarrest people, if they can. It’s not illegal to prevent a kidnapping if you can, and a group of people who don’t show a warrant or identify themselves taking someone off the street against their will is a kidnapping.

              I’m aware that it requires bravery and has very serious potential consequences, but I cannot emphasize enough that just because a person is not currently the target of this type of violence, does not mean that they can stay uninvolved. I understand not wanting to do it, but it’s like not wanting to go to the doctor about a sketchy mole because you’re afraid of hospitals.

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          At least if you assault an officer, you then get an actual court date and get to go to jail, rather than El Salvador.

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    First we created the technology to spread misinformation and hyper tailored propaganda to uneducated people and now that same technology to watch how that propaganda is rotting society to the core.

    I can’t even imagine how massive the reset will have to be after this, but every day I can see a bit clearer how things like Atlantis may have happened.

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      I can’t remember where I heard or read this but they pointed out that the technological infrastructure for fascism is already in place.

      And it’s a terrifying truth. There are who knows how many agencies each one alone with enough personal information on the population to do serious damage. Unfortunately humans react to things. It’s not until terrible atrocities occur that the population will require change. Until then we get to watch this slow motion derailing freight train. Some us may inevitably be caught in the path of destruction ourselves.

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    Fuckedupistanis must be loving these proud fuckedupistani fascists right now to just stand around and watch all of this happen.

    Sort this shit out you dunces!