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      NEVER argue or give Republicans any benefit of the doubt ever again. If someone says they’re Republican you should immediately shut them out of your life.

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        I can’t tell if your joking. The average Republican is pretty much the same as the average Democrat. I believe shifting blame onto a stereotype of the other party is some sort of Freudian transferance.

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          I disagree, the average Democrat at least pretends to care, the average Republican would happily put the boot to your neck if you’re an out group.

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          They are absolutely not, you are either extremely dumb or have been living under a rock your whole life. It’s not even a “recent time should have made you realise it”, right wing politics have been objectively bad for way longer than anyone alive at the moment (I admit that I don’t know the full history of the left/right political climate, so I’m not gonna say that what the general idea of right wing politics is has always been bad, I realised I need to learn more about it and will do so).

          It’s literally right wing “we want to control people and hate anyone who is different” vs left wing “we just want everyone, independent on their gender, skin color, where they’re from, economical status etc. to be ok”. Current American Republicans vs Democrats is not even close to a good scale of “right vs left” and it’s not even a good scale and representation of historical American Republicans vs Democrats, it’s all so fucked.

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            The Democrats are right-wing. They’re the party of “nothing will fundamentally change”. They don’t care about whether or not you’re okay, unless you’re part of the 1%.

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            They absolutely are, you are extremely silly

            Look at results of their leadership over decades, don’t listen to what they claim.

            Democrats say they are the labor party… yet labor continues to collapse under their leadership for decades.

            Republicans say they are for smaller government… yet the government continues to bloat under their leadership for decades.

            When the RESULTS are the same, they are effectively the same, in spite of your bloviating. Results prove they are bOtH anti-labor and rapidly expansive government.

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      And a big shout-out to the big brains who voted third-party or chose not to vote Kamala for ‘lol reasons’. You did that, too, take a bow!

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      Where are all these stickers at the gas pumps now that donny the diddler fucked things up?

      Also worth noting just how “big brained” he is…if I’m not mistaken this picture is from when we were having a solar eclipse and he looked straight into the sun.

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        You should all go and put them back up:

        Vote Donald, low gas prices and no forever wars! (I’ll release the Epstein files and resolve the Ukraine war in 24h!!). No old presidents!!

        You should hold him accountable. Not go with the news cycle.

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      Not really. Debt to GDP was alredy over 100% when he took office. He did make it worse but it’s not like it wasn’t fault of every president since multiple decades

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    He’s bankrupting the country like he bankrupted all his other businesses.

    Guys, it’ll trickle down any second now.

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      The debt is trickling down. Every dollar you give as taxes goes towards that debt and war machine. Since rich don’t pay taxes all the debt payment is yours.

      Even if you don’t pay income taxes; sales tax, property tax, tariff is a payment towards the debt.

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        Technically correct. We hit 100% debt/GDP ratio in 2012. This headline is intended to manipulate you into thinking something that happened over a decade ago just happened.

        We actually crossed 125% under Trump in 2020.

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            Absolutely nobody is perfect and still almost everyone would be better as president than trump or his buddies.

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                I’m not American. I don’t really care about the broken two party rubbish they have.

                I just want America to stop messing up so many things that make the whole world worse than it already is.

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                  So do I. But we can’t do that with one fascist party and one party that keeps appeasing fascists and losing.

                  So “at least they’re second worst to trump now never criticize them” isn’t helpful.

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            Democrats vote for the bills but are innocent

            Democrats don’t fix it when in office but are still innocent

            And if you have a memory longer than a good fish you’re a paid actor.

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    HOW is this Possible? We ELIMINATED all of my VA Benefits, my Child’s Education and School Lunch, SNAP Benefits, Healthcare and Infrastructure Funding! SURELY that gives us Enough Money for Billionaire Tax Breaks and Wars?

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      All those programs? A drop in the war bucket. We could have spent MORE on those programs healthcare and infrastructure, kept the tax breaks for billionaires and still have a bigger war bucket than the next few countries on the list.

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        I still think the funniest thing about the Vance edits is that they look more normal than the real thing. Don’t know how or why but the fucker lost the phenotype roulette and just looks surreal.

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            I think I figured it out, his head or at least face is too babyish. I don’t know if it’s because he’s had work done or if he is just unlucky but his eyes up are normal ish but below his eyes are weirdly rounded. The edits often unify the rounding of his face resulting in him not looking so weird.

            Though his head shape as a whole is kinda off regardless I think it’s the weird assymetrical nature of his face that causes the surreal look.

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    I am so sick of the fiscally irresponsible Demonrats running up our national debt. If only they could follow the fiscally conservative Republisaint’s example and cut all those pesky welfare programs like Social Security and Medicare.

    Imagine if we took all that wasted money and gave it to wealthy to manage. Trickledown only works if we send a tidal wave of money upwards. So much money that some invariably trickles down to the undeserving poors.

    We just have to switch to a regressive national 10% sales tax (with exceptions for large ticket item purchases that only wealthy people can make of course) we could have our Demonrat debt problem solved within a couple of years.

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    I blame the democrats for forcing Hilary on us instead of accepting Bernie, who was obviously the people’s choice for candidate, and then they did it again with Harris. 🤦‍♂️

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      Yes, obviously everything wrong with the country today is the fault of the Democrats. All of it.

      Or is it both sides? I mean, both sides are equally bad, right?

      /s if it isn’t obvious

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        Scorpion and the Frog

        It’s in the nature of the GOP to destroy everything they touch. But they would be completely powerless to act if the Democrats pulled their heads out of their asses.

        “Blame” lies with the GOP, of course. But “Fault” is primarily with the Democrats.

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      obviously the people’s choice for candidate

      The people voted for Clinton over Sanders by a double digit percentage margin. It wasn’t even close.

      For comparison, Obama actually lost the reported popular vote in the 2008 primaries, but this includes a Michigan race that he dropped out of because Michigan moved its primaries forward in violation of DNC rules. Excluding Michigan, Obama won the popular vote by a 0.1% margin, increasing to 0.4% with estimated votes in states that had caucuses instead.

      did it again with Harris

      Biden won the 2024 primary by a more than 80 percent margin.

      The people’s choice was clear in both instances. When Biden dropped out, the people’s choice for a replacement wasn’t clear, but there was no path to rerun the primary, so they had to pick somebody who was closest to what the people had voted for in order to get closest to the people’s choice, which was a continuation of the Biden administration.

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        The people voted for Clinton over Sanders by a double digit percentage margin. It wasn’t even close.

        Okay, so they gave us Clinton by a double-digit percentage margin. That makes it worse, not better.

        Biden won the 2024 primary by a more than 80 percent margin.

        That’s because he ran virtually unopposed. For example, my primary ballot only had two options: “Biden” and “uncommitted”.

        Can you imagine running in a race by yourself and still only getting 80%?

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          Okay, so they gave us Clinton by a double-digit percentage margin. That makes it worse, not better.

          The DNC didn’t give us that. The people did. Winkly’s claim was that Sanders was the people’s choice. The votes show that Clinton was actually the people’s choice, by a wide margin.

          For example, my primary ballot only had two options: “Biden” and “uncommitted”.

          The point remains that he was the people’s choice. In races where he ran against only one other option like yours, the margin of victory was even larger. The DNC did not bar anybody from running in that primary.

          Who do you claim was the people’s choice, if not the candidate who got the most votes?

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            The DNC didn’t give us that. The people did.

            Where did I say anything about the DNC?

            Winkly’s claim was that Sanders was the people’s choice. The votes show that Clinton was actually the people’s choice, by a wide margin.

            Which “the people” are you talking about? Sanders had much more support with “the people” (i.e. voters in general), but was unable to get that support from “the people” in the core of the Democratic Party (i.e. the folks who actually decide who the nominee is going to be).

            Never let the Democrats argue that they vote based upon pragmatism when shit like this happens. The pragmatic choice would’ve been Sanders.

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              Which “the people” are you talking about? Sanders had much more support with “the people” (i.e. voters in general), but was unable to get that support from “the people” in the core of the Democratic Party (i.e. the folks who actually decide who the nominee is going to be).

              The primary voters. They’re not “the core of the Democratic Party.” They’re just regular voters. The people, if you will. The DNC decides who the nominee will be based on the votes of the people in the primaries. The people overwhelmingly voted for Clinton.

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                It wasn’t even a majority of Democratic voters. Only 14% of them voted in the primary. It was a very, very small number of people who selected Clinton.

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                  The ones who cared, voted. The ones who didn’t care, didn’t vote. That’s how voting works.