The actual details are bonkers
According to the Daily Caller, the executive order would require the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security to compile a list of verified U.S. citizens in each state who are eligible to vote. DHS would undertake the effort with the Social Security Administration, the Daily Caller wrote, citing a White House fact sheet.
The U.S. Postal Service would then be required under the order to only send mail-in ballots to voters who appear on the list, according to the Daily Caller. Election authorities in each state typically send out mail ballots to voters, not the Postal Service.
Aside from being blatantly illegal, I bet if you dig into this you will find that the contracts have been given to all of Musk’s friends, using all the SSA data they stole
Oops a “technical glitch” accidentally removed all Democrats. Can’t redo the election though, sorry. We’ll do better Next Time™©®
“Get absolutely fucked”
-the good people of Oregon
100% this is all Musk/Russia
Though highly contested, a Supreme Court ruling sidesteps the electoral process, disqualifying popular presidential candidates from several states.
Isn’t USPS set to collapse very soon? I was surprised when I got a flyer in the mail they were hiring. I live in a state that ONLY does mail in voting too so I’m double confused/worried about this
The USPS financial situation is complicated. It has a legal monopoly on first-class letter delivery, but that is less and less valuable every year as more simple communications move to the Internet. And it is also the only government agency that not only has to fund its own retirement benefits for its employees, but has to plan to put money away now to help cover retirement needs over the next 75 years.
Take away that retirement funding mandate, which no other agency has, and the USPS is profitable most years.
Making things worse is that the USPS has its own debt limit, separate from the Federal debt limit, which it is right up against right now.
So yes, they lose money, but mainly due to constraints set by Congress, that no other agency has.
Analysis here: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-postal-services-fiscal-crisis/
And they’re fully funded by postage, they don’t get any taxpayer money.
mainly due to constraints set by Congress, that no other agency has
In other words, it’s been deliberately sabotaged.
My local usps has had a broken front window for about 6 months. It’s covered with plywood with no signs of planned repair.
The building was broken into about 2 months ago and a number of PO Boxes were severely damaged.
They want to kill off everything except police enforcement.
Bitch, YOU just voted by mail!
To be fair, Trump voting at all is super sketchy.
He’s a felon, but they allow felons to vote in Florida.
What? Felons should be allowed to vote, they are still citizens …
I agree in every case except Donald Trump.
Yeah theres probably more pressing things he should be deprived of though …
The red-looking pump in his chest, for instance.
Nah, even the worst among us should be allowed to vote. But we should have a system that rewards responsible candidates rather than those who cause problems.
He led an insurrection against the United States government. To me, that is enough to lose all of your rights.
Yeah, except it’s also easy to flip that around. What if Trump decided to classify various things he didn’t like as an insurrection, and use that to justify removing voter rights?
It’s far better to simply allow every person to vote, regardless of their history. That means an oppressive regime can’t game the system in that way.
They do, after an onerous and capricious process that can end in an “I don’t feel like giving you that right back”.
Incorrect. Felons are by default not allowed to vote in Florida. Only after a long and rarely granted process, hinging around the personal whims of a state panel that rarely grants it, are voting rights restored.
Trump is a Florida resident, and Florida law says that a person convicted in another state can vote in Florida if they are allowed to vote in that other state.
- https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/can-trump-vote-now-he-has-felony-convictions
So, we’re both right.
Indeed. Interesting. Thanks!
And his excuse was because work was important. Which is exactly why everyone else wants this.
I wish golf was my work.
Not really.
Kinda makes you just want to beat the ever hating snott out of a fat overgrown adult oompa loompa, doesn’t it?
Now for legal reasons, I’m NOT advocating for violence against the president.
Buuuuuut, hypothetically, just hypothetically, I imagine the fist to face ratio would deliver a very satisfying crunch on your knuckles, if you WERE to punch a 34x convicted felon. Hypothetically, you’d likely have an orange fist after the sun tan wipes off on your hand. Hypothetically, this unnamed 34x felon with bizarely orange suntan, would likely make a satisfying crumple onto the ground. But it’s ok, because this unidentified unnamed hypothetical example is ALSO a pedophile, with pending sexual assault charges pending, involving minors. Hypothetically, this is a man who destroyed childrens innocence, took their childhood from them, and then was forced daily to see their abuser on tv facing no consequences. At times even bragging about their crimes. Hypothetically. So punching this hypothetical monster of a “human” would not only be justified, it would be a god damn patriotic thing to do, to confront someone who raped American children. So hypothetically, if you broke their nose while punching their face, I imagine you would instantly become a national hero and icon.
…guys! I want to punch trump in his stupid face.
I thought his excuse was “I am the President so fuck you”
And his wife, and his son, and probably his entire family…
Unfortunately, he doesn’t even need to literally vote anymore.
How 'bout them states rights? And small government? Lol
He needs his throat slit
Congratulations! Welcome to… The List
Well at least its not the epstein list.
If everybody is on the list, nobody is on the list.
Better the USSS watch list than the Epstein list.
It’s times like these I’m glad I’m not on Reddit anymore.
Not until after the midterms
No, right this second. Every delay is another life lost.
If he dies before the midterms it drives down the blue vote and the GOP gets to stay in power.
Please. At a time like this and with a man as great as Trump, only a heroic Charlie Kirk treatment will do.
Getting murdered by Mossad?
A lot of people are hoping very much that his next cheeseburdler will get the job done.
Come on cheesy, you had one job!!
Good thing the constitution leaves it the states to conduct elections, not the federal government.
Ah yes, the constitution has such a good track record stopping Trump.
The notion that any aspect of a presidential election can be regulated through executive orders by the current sitting president would be laughed out of the room in any halfway functional democracy.
Might as well do away with the charade and call them royal decrees
Trump signs executive order declaring Republicans win every open race in the country - Nov 3rd headline this year
Let’s stop enabling him with headlines. He didn’t “sign an executive order limiting mail-in voting,” because executive orders can’t legally do that. He attempted to limit mail-in voting with an executive order. Stop granting the premise. If it works, it won’t be because of an EO, it’ll be because the USPS broke the law. Trump’s power requires others to treat it as absolute. We’ve got to stop agreeing to do so.
He’s signed a lot of EOs that weren’t legal, but they take time to go through the courts and be disqualified. He just needs this one to last until arpund November’s elections, so he doesnt care if its illegal or not, its just a delay tactic to help the Republicans during this election cycle.
Yes, and that’s what I mean. If we accept that his EO has the force of law, we are making it more likely that it will be effective as one.
This is absolutely a case where people should be disobeying immoral (and illegal) orders
Remember everyone, since voting won’t magically fix everything that means it’s worthless! That’s why Republicans are trying so hard to suppress voters. For… Reasons! /S
It’s comforting in some ways to see Trump make these desperate moves. It really shows the pressure is taking a toll on him and Republicans know it too.
desperate moves
These aren’t “desperate moves.” These are just… the moves. Like, this was the plan. This was always the plan. It’s not out of desperation, it’s out of design.
His desperation makes me wonder if he’ll do a big family annihilator thing before he’s removed from power.
“I won the 2028 election! It was ME! But those Radical Left judges in the SCOTUS said I’m ineligible! Therefore, I’m going to do what I was planning for my next term in only the next few months! Every living thing in Iran will be DEAD before the week is out! Same with the Radical Left cities like Chicago and Los Angeles! No survivors, no prisoners! Thank you for your attention to this matter!”
What was that about states rights again?
Unconstitutional
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I too wish that laws still mattered. Thankfully, they still matter a little bit, so there’s still a chance for us to turn things around.
This is why theyre going to try and include wiggle room that it needs to be a certified letter shipped via a private 3rd party in exchange for another golden toilet provided happily by FedEx and UPS.
Republicans will lose so thoroughly in November that any attempt at casting doubt on the results of elections will be laughable, no matter the states propensity to vote Republican. We’ve already seen areas that went to tRump in 2024 by, like 23pts, go to Democrat candidates by a similar margin. That’s a -40pt swing in some tRump country elections. That’s not poling. Those are special election results.
I think the war he started is only going to intensify the swing by then. At least that’s the hope-ium I’m snorting off the toilet seat of this current timeline. In actuality, November will be the last hope for this dying republic and how far gone 1/3 of the population appears to be.
All I know is every reporter that can put questions to tRump need to relentlessly call him out for his mail-in voting, his family’s mail-in voting, and reduce any attempt by Faux ‘News’ to clip positive soundbites, impossible. Drive down into the states rights thought and hit back at Republican voters and candidates with their own arguments. Not to shame or berate them on their past voting choices, but to side with them against any Republican betraying the principles they claim to espouse.
If we successfully vote in a super majority, we must relentlessly canvass communities and hound our reps to demand a change to the whole first-past-the-post method of voting. A lot of our political frustrations can be abated locally, all the way up to national, with this change! If they refuse to support it in any capacity, run progressive candidates to challenge these measured-opposition Democrats and forcefully remove the do-nothing Schumer’s of this rotted party/system. No more capitulation to a party. No more hemming and hawing after they’re sworn in. Nothing else can be fixed until we replace the system that’s used to pick our elected leaders and we have given them ample opportunities to save this country and the party.
You know, I’ve heard this twice before, and I’m REALLY hoping you’re right about this
Unfortunately I still think there is still too much Dem infighting. I expect a big painful loss for Dems this, and maybe even the next, election cycle. Perhaps after that there will be enough focused anger to unseat a Republican president.
Nah, the independents are pissed off and going blue. I expect the dems to gain ground in November but not as much as they should due to voter suppression.
Idk. People write off my neck of the woods, historically very purple, as racist and red af constantly…further driving the independents more and more to the right. It doesn’t help that the Dems keep attacking sensible gun ownership.
Over my life I keep watching many many normal middle of the road people pushed right by the Federal Dems. They either fall in rank with Republicans or just stop engaging with anything outside local elections. It’s saddening but I’ve kinda just accepted it at this point.
Yeah. That’s not how Executive Orders work.
Hasn’t stopped agencies from enforcing or following them, states from following them, or law enforcement from adhering to them.
He is given the power the other branches of the government and states give him, and they all give him everything.
Lots of the executive orders have no legal standing, where he has no authority over what they change. Yet here we are.
