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“If not for christian missionaries you would still be worshiping sun!” “Sun is real, bro…”
Serious answer: when american-style christian conservatives use the word “homosexuality” they’re talking about gay sex. This is also why they think homosexuality is a choice.
But they still wank over girl on girl action. Cos if it’s being done to titillate a man they’ll allow it
Yeah, me and my wife are still married. No amount of random bystander disagreement will change that.
Yeah but are you two hot? If so doesn’t count ofc.
I disagree! You don’t exist therefore are not married!
You don’t exist therefore are not married!
The lesser known principle of Descartes.
It’s fun whacking a straw man, but “I don’t agree with X” doesn’t mean “X doesn’t exist”, it means “I don’t believe people should engage in X”.
If someone says “I don’t agree with pushing your religious beliefs on others”, would you reply the same way?
You understand that’s different right?
How are you going to complain about a strawman and then use one of your own?
Homosexuality isnt an action its a characteristic. “I dont agree with recycling” is different than “i dont agree with being left handed”.
I’m ok with being gay and I’m ok with being left-handed but I don’t believe anyone could be left-handed and gay. They absolutely should not be recycling in that condition. We need to draw the line somewhere
One time, my dad, fully serious, said to me that homosexuality didn’t exist in nature outside of humans.
It was like finding out that you have a below average penis.
My stomach dropped in shame when I was so starkly faced with the mental faculties of one of my biological guardians I had been raised by. Was I staring at my limit?
What about those other kids, whose parents are educated and empathetic and who will ask real probing questions and can answer them? Will my facilities slow to a crawl soon, to keep pace with my genetic fate?
Are these fears so average that I should bow my head in the river, afraid to even express them, lest I be confronted by the entire history of humanity?
Maybe biological nature isn’t everything, maybe fate isn’t real and change is truly in our hands, ready to be molded, potentially even into chaos.
“Better stupid than dead”, huh? It’s staring right back at me, blankly, waiting for me.
One time, my dad, fully serious, said to me that homosexuality didn’t exist in nature outside of humans.
Would just be like “Neither does fucking Bud Light dumbass!”
Except homosexuality has been clearly proven in many cases outside humans.
Bring your dad to a pond and feed the ducks. If he can recognize drakes vs hens he’ll figure it out soon enough.
Fortunately for you, while there’s definitely some genetic component to it, it’s definitely not the only factor by any means. I’ve known some very intelligent people who believe some very dumb shit.
You think there’s always been gay people? Even in ancient Greece? Sure, let’s just pretend all those hairy daddy bears weren’t wrestling each other for totally heterosexual reasons.
Nah those were just roommates…
or the totally not homo ancient romans grooming twinks
When everyone was gay… noone was
Hey conservatives, I’ve got an idea on how to get rid of all the homosexuals in modern society, now hear me out on this…
I don’t agree with the sun. That bitch can fuck right off.
The “I don’t agree with” people are also the believers that homosexuality is a choice. (It’s not…every sane person knows that it’s not.)
So when they’re saying “I dont agree with” what they mean is “I don’t agree with the choice a person makes to be gay”
People are stupid
Now, religious people are a special breed of stupid.
They choose to believe in things they know aren’t true, and they call it faith.
And that’s how they think everyone else comes to their own conclusions about reality as well. They think we’re taking the existence of homosexuality on faith, which is why they think they’re making some kind of point when they say they don’t believe in that.
Like a demented orobouros. I’ve found that many people project themselves upon the world, in order to explain it. As I’ve grown up, I’ve wanted to say that that has lessened, but it absolutely doesn’t seem to have done anything but gotten clearer and more obvious. Maybe that, itself, is me projecting.
Maybe that, itself, is me projecting.
The effect is certainly more pronounced in those who lack empathy. Which conservatives often proudly do. Lacking empathy prevents you from seeing the world through other people’s point of view … which often leaves you unable to properly understand others.
My experience being born into religious conservative white america is that phrases like “I don’t believe in” or “I don’t agree with” are just the politically correct language and/or dog whistle for “I hate that shit but I need to act polite.”
I have (RCWA) family members who, in their words, “don’t believe in Halloween”. Halloween being a holiday celebrated in many countries and one that happens every year, which is all over the media, with products in nearly every store, and even shows up on most typical calendars in this country.
I need to know, what does RCWA stand for? I’ve searched for RCWA, RWCA, and RCAW, but nothing comes up that makes sense in this context. It’s driving me a bit crazy.
If they actually think Halloween “isn’t real” that’s pretty nuts. It exists regardless of whether they want it to or not.
That said, a lot of holidays have become pretty corporate to the extent I can understand people wanting to opt out and not celebrate them, or do things in their own way.
Big difference between that and thinking it’s “not real” though.
When the people who disagree with mountains turn out to be mountains themselves it becomes downright hilarious.
That’s actually my personal theory on why they think it’s a choice. For them, it IS a conscious choice, because they’re gay and making an active choice to suppress it. They think everyone has gay urges, because they’re incapable of imagining a world where they aren’t their lived experience isn’t the default.
These gay mountains are so gay.
This half assed analogy is cracking me up
Trying to watch my calories so it’s only half ones for a while.
They can’t see the mountain range with all the mountains or something
Long time ago, group of friends and I were eating late night food at a diner. Talking about lots of stuff and one of them turned to the topic of homosexuality as one of our friends just came out.
Only other customer in the room was a lady reading a book. When we spoke of homosexuality she simply mumbled, “I don’t believe in that.” and we said, “… What?” she says, “I don’t believe that homosexuality is a real thing.”
Gay bro pipes up and says he’s a living breathing example. They got into it for a bit and it was so long ago that I don’t remember how it went. I think she left out of frustration.
Weird times.
“Nah bro, you don’t actually like dick, that’s just a phase, trust me.”
Even just the notion of butting into a conversation with that, wtf. Must’ve felt it was her chance to proselytise.
The People who “don’t believe in homosexuality” are usually the same type of entitled assholes to insert themselves into other people’s conversations.
I don’t agree with gravity!
Christians (esp. fundies) really don’t work with the same concepts as everyone else
for example, homosexuality is now known to be mostly a matter of biology (of course, a repressive environment might lead people to suppress, but I’m doubtful that is relevant to the underlying question of their innate sexual orientation, which remains unchanged)
but for science-denying Christians who are taught that homosexuality is “sin”, they are mostly taught that sexuality is not anything innate or natural but entirely a matter of behavioral choices (similar to how shame about masturbation frames sexuality and sexual desire as wrong and a matter of self control and making “good choices”).
So, in that context something like “I don’t agree with homosexuality” really just means they see homosexual “acts” as wrong, and so they don’t endorse people who indulge in those behaviors; they aren’t really thinking about sexuality in the same way.
Hot take: I really don’t care if it’s a choice or biology, I’m fine with it either way.
