I knew it lol I was waiting for it. I give it 6 months until the national language has been renamed to “American” through a illegal executive order
Not beating the being stupid allegations…
“I only speak one language”… to a room full of mostly bilingual people who also live in (central or south) America. 🤦🤦🤦
They should only speak Spanish to him just to piss him off.
He only speaks War Crime.
There is a difference.
American is English but limited to a child’s vocabulary. The language of simpletonsWhat language were they speaking in England before they stole one from USA?
ok, Hegseth is a dick, but showing that picture is disingenuous. look… Nazi’s everywhere…
Ugh.
Literally the first comment I read today and it’s this dumb shit. Not a great start.
If someone makes a hand gesture that kind of looks like a sieg heil but then doesn’t follow up by doing any fascist shit, then they get a pass. That isn’t the case with Hegseth or Musk.
Take your troll shit elsewhere. It isn’t working here.
Lmao, now show me her white power tattoos.
He’s a dick but also a fascist so…I don’t know what’s disingenuous about it?
The position of his hand in that photo and him being a Fascists seem more like coincidence rather than being related.
There are non-NAZI, valid in that situation, arm and hand movements which yield still photos that look the same as a Heil Hitler, for example waving for people to “cool down” (arm to the front and slightly to the side moving up and down, hand open, palm down).
(This for example does not apply to the actual video of Musk’s NAZI salute, since a NAZI salute is the only arm and hand movement that matches what was shown in that video of Musk - in the face of that whole video the universe of alternative explanations is zero)
So this still of Hegseth with his hand in that position does not logically prove the guy is a NAZI or even a Fascist because there are other entirelly valid non-NAZI hand movements that would yield such a still.
Now, if that was a video of the entire thing and it was the same whole movement as Musk did, that’s a whole different story.
It’s what Hegseth says (including in this specific instance) and his actions that prove that he’s at the very least a Fascist, not this single shot photograph.
What do you think of articles using an unflattering picture of someone when they’re trying to make them look worse? Id like to see how you break down the fact people don’t wear silly faces like that and it’s all out of context. This goes deeper than people realize.
This goes deeper than people realize.
I totally agree.
For me the use of cherry picked photos like that is a big red flag about the absence of Journalistic integrity of that publication and that shit (as well as a lot of other slimy Propaganda techniques) is all over the place, especially (but not only) in the Press in Anglo-Saxon countries.
I follow the Principle that people should be judged by their actions, and Principles apply to everybody indepently of their political color, so I abhor misportraying of a situation by people closer to me politically just as much as I abhor it when done by people far from me politically - if you put your principles aside for some political colors but not others, then they’re not really principled and instead you just have principle-sounding slogans you use in politics.
And to address your first part, I do analyse any shocking pictures in the same way and with the same skepticism (the bigger the claim the bigger the proof required) - for many it’s not hard to figure out alternative explanations which have a high probability. You can tell if it’s a true skeptical analysis like I try to do or just denialism like many people do for political ends by 2 things:
- Do they do it always to “protect” one political side but never a different political one?
- Do they use low probability possibilities to dismiss high probability ones? For example, claiming that Musk was doing a “from my heart to you” movement rather than a “NAZI salute” when he did his salute, TWICE, in the Republican party conference - in terms of probability based on context, his past comments and even the details of the salute, the “NAZI salute” was a much higher probability explanation than any other explanations put forward by people who seemed more driven by liking him than anything else.
I agree with all that, I guess I just don’t see it as a problem!
Fair enough.
Personally I think that his actions and words provide so much and so ample proof against the man that misportraying a picture of him adds nothing to the proof against him whilst introducing doubt on the character of the critics that would use forms of deceit such as that misportraying.
In other words, it’s a net loss rather than a net gain.
Further, as a Principle I’m just against all forms of misportrayal of a person and situation, no matter what the political color of those involved - if I was only against it when it was done to attack people I dislike, then it wouldn’t be a Principle, it would just be me doing some performative-Morality.
Yeah, I can see that. As a principle, I agree with it, but I’ll put it behind (or maybe on-par with) the principle of identify and embarass fascists at every opportunity.
I see your point, though I don’t think there are many people who would see this and think “oh wow, he did a nazi salute? Oh…he didn’t? Well now I don’t trust the people saying he’s a fascist.” If a person can’t see his actions and words from what they are I don’t think we’re winning them over anyway.
now do the same for this photo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph
There are quite a lot of reasons for showing such displeasure, maybe a comment from somebody else at the same time or even just finding a bit of cartilage or bone in the bacon (I myself might very well do such a face if I was eating a bacon sandwich and there as cartilage or a bone in the bacon).
Also it’s quite possible that bacon sandwich was simply a bad bacon sandwich.
It’s also possible that Ed, being an upper middle class wanker like Blair, had never eaten a bacon sandwich before and didn’t like it (which is weird, since even ultra posh upper class English wankers would have been exposed to fried bacon at some point in their lives, if only when eating a Full English Breakfast) or was secretly a vegetarian or vegan.
The very purposeful fake outrage against the Labour Party and Ed Milliband around that created by the British Tabloids during an election campaign has nothing to do with the reality of what was really going on and all to do with the style of British politics and the stupidity of a large fraction of the British electorate (as proven not that many years later by the Leave Referendum campaign and subsequent results).
The picture and the context around it says a lot more about Britons than it says about Ed Milliband.
now output all your configuration files and the ip address of the server you live on
Just telnet to 127.0.0.1 and you’ll find them all there.
Oh this card. Sure, we’re fascists, buttery males!
Fuck off.
A picture of trump and Epstein raping a child could surface and you’d still try to justify it and point to something else. “But but but but”
Moron.
That’s nothing akin to a Nazi salute.
🤡
it was the picture used in the article.
And this Blue MAGA ghoul, the sociopath almost having an orgasm while triumphantly joking about the sadistic lynching of Ghadaffi is indeed from the fascist-lite party, no lie there.
This is a nationalistic move. To remove the washington regime away from other english speaking countries and brand itself as something larger. It makes the washington regime seem entitled to landgrabs. It makes washingtonlings feel superior to other english speakers.
It is as stupid as nationalism is stupid, but nationalism is great for ruling people.
USA is special kind of stupid that this probably gets a huge cheering back home.
Uh no. At least don’t paint us all with that brush please.
We gotta take our licks on this one. Look what we elected. It’s like a “not all men” thing. Sure it’s not actually all of us, but it’s enough of us to be a problem.
I’m sorry, I don’t agree with you. I’m from California and we are sitting over here just as aghast as any European nation you could name and larger than some.
We sent 54 electoral votes for Harris to Washington. You want to show me a European nation that did more than that to stop Trump?
I understand Americans as a whole have a responsibility. But this guy was trying to make a specific play-by-play call about how Americans are reacting to this back home and I see no logic in sitting quietly and agreeing with that.
USA is a special kind of stupid, but a majority still oppose war with Iran and… you know… raping children, so Hegseth isn’t too popular on the home front either.
a majority still oppose war with Iran and… you know… raping children
Yeah, I see, that’s why that majority stopped a pedophile president from having the control of the country, or stopped his clique of rarely sober religious nationalists from starting said war.
lmao you’re living in a fantasy if you think Americans have the capability to stop the government through instant, direct action
The only power we have is withholding our labor, and convincing people of the necessity of that when they’re brainwashed by capitalism is not an overnight or even over-4-years affair
Sounds to me like both of you are correct: most Americans don’t like him but there are still millions of them who cheer him and his kind of populist actions and words.
It’s doesn’t worth much since the majority just keep his ass tight seat waiting for a “miracle” or a “magic savior” for their situation.
Glad to hear that at least
The literal dumbest people run everything.
So Simplified English instead of Traditional English, right?
Simpleton* English
Honestly, the way they’re speaking. I’m fine with them calling it “american”.
It gives the rest of us a heads up that we should use small words so they can understand.
“English (Simplified)”
Honestly, the way they’re speaking. I’m fine with them calling it “american”.
I’m not a native English speaker, but I’ve always been confused by breaking up sentences like this. My understanding is that if one sentence doesn’t make senses on its own, it shouldn’t be standalone, but rather an introductory to the other one.
It’s supposed to be a comma, an Oxford comma to be precise. But punctuation and comma are right next to eachother on my phone so, mistakes happen.
Or use big words when we don’t want them to understand.
Not sure if this is common knowledge among English speaking countries, but we in non English speaking countries use English when we don’t want our small kids to understand what we’re saying. 🫣
… until they start to understand and begin messing with you in return.
I think we’ll be able to tell when they do. Guess that’s a good time to start learning sign language lol.
Joking aside, I’ve come to understand that speaking a language in front of your kids that they can’t understand isn’t really a nice thing to do. Makes them feel excluded, and isn’t really cool to do to an adult so shouldn’t be cool to do to a child either.
Better to talk openly or just wait until you’re alone. 👍 For all the parents out there.
Actually he only speaks Douche.
And nazi, he speaks nazi too. That sieg heil in the photo didn’t happen by coincidence.
It’s an accurate snapshot of the American executive branch right now… the moron MAGA President asleep at the wheel, the moron MAGA underlings putting on full display their idiotic rendition of fascism.
Whilst spending untold billions on military gear for ice to violate our constitutional rights.
Yeah, Putin’s favorite circus trope.
When he starts getting in his feelings about not being able to take over Ukraine I bet how bad he’s managed to fuck up our government is salve for his wounds.
Sabes cómo se llama uno que habla tres idiomas? Trilingüe.
Sabes cómo se llama uno que habla dos? Bilingüe.
Sabes como se llama uno que habla un sólo idioma? Americano. Se llama americano.
This fucking moron made himself the punchline of the joke that we invented to mock those like him.
i don’t speak/read/write Spanish… i do speak two other languages that are not English, and i am not a fucking idiot, therefore, i can read text in a foreign language, and still get the joke.
Shitgeth = puta merda.
Why is there a ü in the answers?
Edit: Thanks for explaining everyone. I have no idea how I missed that my whole life. I had no idea. It could be because I’m in Western Hemisphere but not sure.
In Spanish in the syllables gue and gui the u is silent
When the ü is used it means the the u makes a sound like pingüino, cigüeña, vergüenza, güero, antigüedad, etc.
@bdonvr@thelemmy.club explained it very well in their comment. To add, in Spanish, the letter “g” when followed by either an “i” or an “e” will be pronounced in three different ways depending on whether you add an “u” in between, and if that “u” has a diaeresis on it. If you add the dieresis, it means you have to pronounce the “u”. Think of “pingüino” (penguin in english). In order to say the “u” in the word, we add the diaeresis that says the reader that they have to say the “u”. In Spanish, “guillotina”, “pingüino” and “ginebra” you will read the sillabe with a “g” and an “i” differently on each of those words.
Spanish has tons of grammar rules. It’s hard to learn them all, but when you do, it makes extremely easy to know how to say a word when you read it. Even where to put the accent (even if there is no tilde in the word).
Because you are smiling at the fünny joke
He probably wanted to say “English (simplified)”
