There’s still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that’s who and when it would be done. I’m not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I’ve got no reason to think that it’s not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.
“hacker”…
According to Epic, someone changed their handle to Epstein’s handle that was exposed in the files. There was no hacking involved.
I would absolutely believe it that he was walked out and flown to Israel where he lives as a hero of the pedo-genocide state, but his brother who identified his body is vocal about evidence it wasn’t a suicide. I’m not sure what incentive he’d have to both lie about identifying his brother’s body and making so much noise about it being a murder…
Then if he went far enough to lie about identifying the body, it would serve him to not make a lot of noise about there being a big government conspiracy around it…
True, assuming this is rational behavior. People can do some pretty crazy things out of hubris or pressure though.
I’m not going to definitively state that Jeffery isn’t dead. It really is most plausible that he died that night. I just, wouldn’t be surprised if he showed up alive.
Is there any reason to believe it wasn’t hacked? If I’m murdered then my account being accessed doesn’t prove I’m secretly alive. Especially if I used insecure passwords like Epstein is reported to have done.
It’s not impossible, but if he was still alive I find it hard to believe he’d just access it once and never again. Stupid billionaires with bad passwords probably happens all the time and we just don’t know about it because they’re not at the center of an international child sex exploitation crime ring.
Like when Andy Kaufman did an entire show at the Apollo with ‘his grandmother’ rocking back and forth in a chair off to one side, only to pull off the wig and it was Robin Williams (in his quietest role ever) all along?
A simple trade, destruction of evidence in exchange for his life. Mind you I’d still kill him regardless but I also wouldn’t make any deal with slime like that to begin with.
I’m guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.
That would make sense if he wasn’t arrested, convicted, interrogated and with a mountain of evidence in the hands of the FBI. A dead drop isn’t going to keep you alive if the person who wants you silenced thinks you’re already spilling the beans.
But even if that’s the case he’s alive until he clears the dead drop because he’d still be a loose end.
That too. Really it would depend how stupid he and his handlers were/are, I can’t really make any statements on stupid or smart rich assholes are though since I come from a place of assuming everyone of these profligates are universally just above braindead.
Like someone else said there might have been a dead man’s switch ready to release all the kompromat.
Death is obviously very final, if he’s stashed somewhere then you could wheel him out to testify although I can’t really think of a circumstance where that would be advantageous.
I tend to think murder is the far simpler objective and therefore the most likely.
I’m sure it was possible to swap Epstein out. I just don’t think there was the motivation for it
No one wants Epstein alive. The rich and powerful want to bury their crimes, normal people want retribution. The only motivator I can imagine would be a deadman switch, but even if Epstein were smuggled out, the rich and powerful would have dismantled any blackmail Epstein had by now and finished the job
I see no path that still has Epstein alive at this point
There’s still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that’s who and when it would be done. I’m not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I’ve got no reason to think that it’s not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.
Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein’s Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.
I would bet a handler was checking the device and fucked up.
and played a few ranked rocket league games for fun while they were at it
Then got pissed at the smerfs and killed himself
Their FedEx account was in use until 2024.
https://www.ontheditch.com/gained-access-to-epsteins-fedex-account/
That someone was exposed as a teenage “hacker”.
I used quotes because it was more social engineering and lying than any sort of hack.
“hacker”… According to Epic, someone changed their handle to Epstein’s handle that was exposed in the files. There was no hacking involved.
I would absolutely believe it that he was walked out and flown to Israel where he lives as a hero of the pedo-genocide state, but his brother who identified his body is vocal about evidence it wasn’t a suicide. I’m not sure what incentive he’d have to both lie about identifying his brother’s body and making so much noise about it being a murder…
Remember that he was deeply involved in Epstein’s businesses, including holding the position of president over the J Epstein & Co investment firm.
Then if he went far enough to lie about identifying the body, it would serve him to not make a lot of noise about there being a big government conspiracy around it…
True, assuming this is rational behavior. People can do some pretty crazy things out of hubris or pressure though.
I’m not going to definitively state that Jeffery isn’t dead. It really is most plausible that he died that night. I just, wouldn’t be surprised if he showed up alive.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I said.
I hate this timeline so much
This was a hoax, look it up.
Is there any reason to believe it wasn’t hacked? If I’m murdered then my account being accessed doesn’t prove I’m secretly alive. Especially if I used insecure passwords like Epstein is reported to have done.
It’s not impossible, but if he was still alive I find it hard to believe he’d just access it once and never again. Stupid billionaires with bad passwords probably happens all the time and we just don’t know about it because they’re not at the center of an international child sex exploitation crime ring.
If I had that much money I know I would have a “Hail Mary” boobytrap that released a bunch of incriminating evidence in case of my death.
That might be Ghislaine’s job.
if i had that much money, i’d probably start a big ass farm or something. not enough ass in the world today
Imagine if he’d been one of the state of the union guests.
Trump pulls off his face, gasp it was Epstein all along
Like when Andy Kaufman did an entire show at the Apollo with ‘his grandmother’ rocking back and forth in a chair off to one side, only to pull off the wig and it was Robin Williams (in his quietest role ever) all along?
Not impossible, but I don’t see what advantage there would be to keeping him alive vs just getting rid of him entirely.
A simple trade, destruction of evidence in exchange for his life. Mind you I’d still kill him regardless but I also wouldn’t make any deal with slime like that to begin with.
I’m guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.
That would make sense if he wasn’t arrested, convicted, interrogated and with a mountain of evidence in the hands of the FBI. A dead drop isn’t going to keep you alive if the person who wants you silenced thinks you’re already spilling the beans.
But even if that’s the case he’s alive until he clears the dead drop because he’d still be a loose end.
That too. Really it would depend how stupid he and his handlers were/are, I can’t really make any statements on stupid or smart rich assholes are though since I come from a place of assuming everyone of these profligates are universally just above braindead.
It makes keeping him alive, a matter of national security.
Who knows.
Like someone else said there might have been a dead man’s switch ready to release all the kompromat.
Death is obviously very final, if he’s stashed somewhere then you could wheel him out to testify although I can’t really think of a circumstance where that would be advantageous.
I tend to think murder is the far simpler objective and therefore the most likely.
I love watching credible conspiracy theories turn into pure garbage conspiracy theories right before my eyes in one thread.
I’m sure it was possible to swap Epstein out. I just don’t think there was the motivation for it
No one wants Epstein alive. The rich and powerful want to bury their crimes, normal people want retribution. The only motivator I can imagine would be a deadman switch, but even if Epstein were smuggled out, the rich and powerful would have dismantled any blackmail Epstein had by now and finished the job
I see no path that still has Epstein alive at this point