Summary

The Atlantic has published unredacted attack plans (non-paywall link) shared in a Signal group chat of senior Trump officials, including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and DNI Tulsi Gabbard.

Editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg released the full texts after officials denied sharing war plans or classified information, arguing transparency was necessary amid accusations of dishonesty.

The leaked messages detailed U.S. military strikes targeting Houthis in Yemen.

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      It’s so wild that they are very demanding of touchpoints up front but totally clueless about everything throughout the chat…

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    Not sure about legality, and not that the US military care, but confirming someone id, and that he is visiting a gf or family member, then bombing the house, sound like a war crime.

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      It is a crime and Israel is doing it too so Trump and the whole clown car just follows the lead. I am all for killing people who have done heinous shit but killing everybody in whole build just to get tom them is beyond fucked up.

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      We actually have munitions that don’t blow up too. We could literally have killed just him. This isn’t 20 years ago anymore.

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    They waited till he entered his girlfriends apartment building?.. seems on point for the military. How many people died? I think someone said 53? And was that guy the only target? So many deaths for one dickhead…

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        More risk to the US personnel or assets, and it would be a diplomatic and domestic incident if it came out that US troops or assets were operating in Yemen. It’s much safer to bomb them from a plane.

        Also there’s the terror aspect where the US government presumably wants to cause chaos and fear explicitly to make continuing the blockade less appealing to both the Houthis and the people of Yemen.

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      So strange that no one is talking about this aspect of it.

      Like I’m no war expert (obviously neither are they), but wouldn’t it cause far fewer causalities, and be far cheaper and easier, to just hide in the bushes and shoot the guy when he comes out? Since they know exactly where he is?

      1 death vs 53, 1 bullet vs whatever TF it takes to level a building?

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        You’re going to need a team of people, fly them in and out and make sure they get back home alive or it might hurt the president’s polls. It might be cheaper but it’s much riskier. Nobody in the US cares about those 52 other people so that doesn’t really matter to them.

        I’m surprised they didn’t use drones.

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      Why kill one when you can kill a bunch. Rack it up to collateral damage then go have a beer at the bar. Maybe leak some more texts before your Telsa test drive.

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    So yesterday they lied to congress more often than they told the truth? So many “I don’t recall” when in fact they could pull it up on their phone and know? Traitors to American families every one of them

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      Lying about sleeping with an intern - impeachment

      Lying about sharing classified information on an insecure group chat - “he’s just a widdle guy 😢”

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    Lmao Waltz saying he is going to try and figure out “how the heck he got into this room” and then the first text screenshot literally says “Michael Waltz added you to the group” is so goddamn hilarious to me.

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      Oh wow, proof it also has disappearing messages enabled.

      I don’t know the legality of the messages being able to disappear, but the fact it’s enabled is a clear cut violation of the law.

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        For any other administration, this would be a catastrophe. For the Trump administration, it’s Thursday.

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      Oh, yeah, these guys sat in front of the Senate yesterday and flatly lied about all of it. At the end, one of the Democrats said that it wouldn’t be long before they had the transcripts, which would be compared to their testimony, analyzed for discrepancies, and legal options considered.

      The MAGA Nazis aren’t really worried, they know there is no possible way that HitlerPig, Big Booby Bondi, or the Nazi legislature will do anything about it, and even if they did, HitlerPig would just pardon them, but at least it’s one more egregious national security lapse/lie that the Dems can beat them with forever.

      IF the Dems ever show the guts to fight back.

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      The other thing I noticed up there is that it says “MAR added MAR”. Not sure if those are two people with the same Signal/Contact name/intials, or how that happened (as a Signal user, best guess is group link but that is also would be in the log at the top)

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    This is becoming a theme stretching back multiple administrations. The people at the top either don’t understand IT acceptable use policies, cybersecurity controls, classification divisions of systems, records retention policies, etc; or they are intentionally ignoring them. And for bonus points, everyone at this level is an espionage target.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_group_chat_leak

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      They’re ignoring them. Acceptable use policies are annoying and they’re too powerful to follow the rules.

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    The Atlantic putting a paywall on this when they got the texts for free from a government handout is peak America…

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    My favorite quote is the one where he says it could leak lol

    “…If this leaks we look indecisive”

    Try incompetent beyond reason. This clown world is funny if people weren’t dying.

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    So thankful we avoided GeNoCiDe JoE!

    This is way better! …but then again, the world is only black or white… so maybe not. I guess the internet wanted this and so here we are.

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      Ah yes, some pro-Palestinians who didn’t cast their votes are the reason democrats lost.

      This trope is getting old to be honest.

      edit: don’t forget to vOtE bLuE!

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        The prevalent message is what counts.

        Kinda like saying a handful of idiots pushed a narrative about Hillary’s server. More idiots bought that line but it was started by a small group.

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          The well known argument that the 90 millions eligible voters that did not vote were influenced by a few people protesting the US aiding and supporting a genocide.

          very rational, very smart…Keep on deflecting instead of bettering your party, that will show the republicans currently destroying what is left of your society.

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            Why not both? It’s entirely possible to push for progressive policies while also acknowledging the role cultural influence and the internet holds…

            Easier that being an asshole really.

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              Because it’s nonsensical? You people are trying to put all the blame of trump win on some vocal minority from the left.

              This is dishonest, and quite disturbing. Especially seeing how frequent this argument keep popping up on every thread related to trump destroying your country.

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      This trope if pathetic, only Americans think this way. You need an actual opposition party then, not neoliberalism. Because fascism wins either with your way of thinking.

      No politician offering universal healthcare, affordable housing, paid time off, better wages, resistance against genocide, etc. and etc. And youre mad at the voters? You see how fucked up that is?

      Blaming others and voters will keep making your situation worse and worse, until they come after you as well. You could instead use your energy to protest in various ways or to support or help to challenge and create new parties or structures.

      Keep dogging on your own citizens and youre gonna be next. Literally the playbook of Nazis. “First they came for…”

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    Jesus Christ, they’re just so fucking stupid. This is the kind of thing that would see employees of a major corporation fired in an instant, but I just know that these careless chucklefucks are going to be in my news feed for a while yet, possibly another four years so long as they keep currying the favour of Trump. This shit is pathetic, the rest of the world is embarrassed on behalf of American citizens for having to deal with this incompetence.

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      You make a good point. These traitors want to privatize the entire government, but no private sector company would accept the sort of behavior that is SOP for these MAGA Morons. None of them would survive their probabtionary period. That’s why they’re all in MAGA government, where competency is irrelevant.

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          You’d imagine some masterplan and its just… Them.

          well, we might as well bomb them, what do you guys think? Idiots controlling a immensely powerful military. It’s disappointing.

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    Well, we all knew they would be damning as fuck and they are damning as fuck.

    How they goaded him into releasing those damning as fuck texts instead of just saying “sorry, we fucked up” is beyond me but here we find ourselves.

    Feel like they’re gonna throw Hegseth under the bus now.

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      Remember “covfefe?”

      If they admit they fucked up, they look “weak” to their base, which expects “strong men.” Normal human traits like empathy and humility are anathema to these creeps.

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    That thumbnail makes Trump look like Gary Busey with his mouth closed. Although, I’m sure that would be an insult to Gary.