• LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    PSA: musk is a fascist and Nazi. Buying cars from Tesla directly supports him and thus all the terrible things he does. There are lots of much better electric cars if that’s what you want

    Edit: I sure kicked a hornets nest saying maybe not buy from the fascist. To be clear: almost every car manufacturer has EVs now, multiple models. If you can’t find one of those that’s good deal and just have to buy Tesla, maybe you just really want a Tesla idk. If you want the ‘good deal’ I highly doubt Tesla really stacks up, but the best deal as always will be buying something used.

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      Not just buying.

      Even if you had yours from the salute, or whatever, he’s still using your driving data to train their self driving softwares.

      They’re still selling your data to whoever, too.

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      I’d buy Chinese if I could, but I can’t. Chinese cars are the only cars that are as high of quality in the infotainment department (the most important part of a car), and I’m absolutely pissed that that is the reality.

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        Rivian. VW. Hell even a Ford f150 lightning. The choices arent just between China and Tesla.

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          My lightning is a gigantic piece of shit. It’s been in the shop 40 days in one year of ownership. The infotainment screen software runs at 15fps. VW doesn’t have an electric option with at least 320 miles of range (afaik) and their infotainment center screens are way too small (15” is the minimum at which a screen can be useful). Rivian is unaffordable and has the same slowness problem with their software. (Tesla does the right thing which is putting a processor that’s way overpowered in the infotainment stack which means that the software will be 120FPS for years to come)

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        as high of quality

        Aren’t Teslas famously NOT high quality? Like, at all? Glued on plastic body panels and whatnot? Can’t take it through a car wash without frying all the electronics (oh, but don’t worry, we added a special “car wash” button just for that!)?

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        Eh, kind of. Musk is in this weird position where a lot of his wealth is tied up in one company in a way that he really can’t escape from. That’s why he keeps trying to build up XAI into something meaningful. He needs a back up plan for when Tesla’s share price finally collapses. And he can’t sell his stock because any time he does that it triggers an investor panic.

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    Musk’s downgrading from Mars to the moon. He’ll now downgrade from selling Teslas to selling driverless Edsels (which, let’s face it, are a better design than Teslas anyway).

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      They did announce recently that they’re gonna stop making and selling the Model S and Model X and put more emphasis on humanoid robots and AI instead of cars. Everything over there in Muskland seems so terribly chaotic.

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        That would just be software bros. They’ve never really been progressive, they just like to vaguely gesture in that direction because they don’t hate gay people enough to fit in with Republicans.

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            Libertarian Police

            I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

            “Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”

            “What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”

            “Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”

            The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”

            “Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”

            “Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”

            He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”

            “Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”

            I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.

            “Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.

            “Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.

            “Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”

            It didn’t seem like they did.

            “Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”

            Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.

            I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.

            “Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.

            Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.

            “Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.

            I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”

            He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

            “All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”

            “Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.

            “Because I was afraid.”

            “Afraid?”

            “Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”

            I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.

            “Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”

            He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me.

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          I was this close 🤏 to immigrate to the Silicon Valley in the early 2010s. There’s a good chance I’d still be enjoying licking boot to this day if that happened.

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    I was a huge fan of Tesla originally. I remember before the roadster, there was all this talk of open sourcing the platform so other manufacturers could build their own EVs.

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    Sadly i think this would be due to cheaper chinese companies competing? We got a shit load a cheap chinese electric cars on the market over here and you dont really see Teslas anymore

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      Probably not as this is talking about North America, where Chinese electric cars are still not widely available. It’s most likely due to Elon, cyber truck, and US relations with Canada.