i disagree. There are good and bad separate bike lanes.
In this one, cyclists will be overlooked a lot when crossing the lane. They are hidden behind parked cars.
edit: apologies in advance. I am glad you built this one, which is already a good step in the right direction.
This is literally how 99 percent of the separate bike lanes in NL are built. Check Not Just Bikes on Nebula.
Not correct. And misleading. I know not just bikes well. Infrastructure is way more than one bike lane. It is also about how traffic crosses a bike lane. The crossing is slowed down by speedbumps (?) or the bike path is elevated by a curb, etc. and a wide area of visibility is provided, so they are visible before crossing. And most importantly, the car drivers are taught about it. What i mean is, that like in this foto, might work well in the Netherlands, but not so much in other countries.
I think the idea is that the cars shield cyclists from potential accidents on the road.
you trade one danger for the other
Though IMO anyone on a bike in areas where they must interact with cars should anticipate right turners going through their lane without even considering if there’s a cyclist about to enter that space. Right of way only matters when looking back at an incident to determine if anyone should be fined or arrested.
I do the same shit while driving, just assume that anyone around me might actually be completely incompetent and could try changing into my lane at any moment.
I didn’t know Americans had cycle lanes
I would guess that Boston Massachusetts has the best bike lanes in America, but there are many American cities I haven’t been to. I have bike lanes in my town, but nothing like I saw in Boston. That city takes biking very seriously.
Very good (for America) cycle infrastructure here in Portland Oregon!
Haven’t been, but I’ve heard good things!
DC and the surrounding areas do it pretty damn well. Tons of dedicated trails and a solid community.
I hear America is full of cycopaths
Indeed and give the bicycles the right of way like the Netherlands. However, with proper traffic controls and the bicyclists must follow the rules too.
This, fucking everywhere!
I’m going to hit my head on that tree’s branches
There are like eight cities in the US that give me hope for you guys.
Not a crazy amount of hope, to be clear. But I like seeing this more than the good old find out half of the imperial boomerang.
I have to find a new home at some point and it’s good that not every single community in one continent has decided to continuously shoot itself in the foot at every opportunity. I’ve got friends who moved to Boston and they say it’s nice. Frankly any place where a house costs eight billion dollars better be nice.
Ah man, I used to live in this town. I wish the infrastructure had been this good when I was there.
Yeah, looks good. Don’t need the seperation from the walking path though.
Yes we do! They have a bike path here in IB that has a pedestrian path that runs alongside it for most of the path, but it joins the main bike path twice for a total of about 100 feet. Because of this pedestrians clog the bike path, and I have to dodge baby carriages and dogs constantly.
You a normal bicycle road in the Netherlands in every town. All equipped with own traffic signs and own traffic lights. Even with broader bicycle expressways cross country between towns.
How do you turn left?
Yeah but those would never work in American because our needs are special. We’re “special needs” /s
Post pics! It’s not that I don’t believe you, I just want to be more depressed with my country
I’m not the person you’re replying to but here’s one:
You can just do an image search for “Netherlands separated cycle lane” to see a bunch more.
Here are some videos about road design in the Netherlands you might find interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aNtsWvNYKE
I can guarantee at least one of those links is NotJustBikes without even clicking on them.
Thanks, super depressing! Even if we had the design of the second video drivers would pass the white line and crosswalk and wait in the bike lane to make a turn. Or to just stop when going straight. I hate it here
They plow them too. Same city, different street, this week:
In my country this is “standard” bike lane.
What’s a good one look like?
It’s frustrating how many comments are focused on comparisons to the NL. When someone does something hard that was easy for you, do you gloat or do you celebrate their efforts?
Everyone in this community knows that NL has amazing bike infra and this is normal (and better) there.
Hope to see more permanent protected bike lanes in the US. Thanks for sharing OP
From the Netherlands myself. I’m always really happy to see improvements like this elsewhere. I know what it looks like in other countries.
Appreciate your view and I would love to see more of it.
I live in NJ, which is probably the most suburban state in the US, and so we were built with cars and houses in mind. Fortunately, we are seeing a shift toward biking infrastructure, albeit a little slow, but progress is progress. Jersey City certainly leads the way, and new developments that come online, which there are many, are often required to put in protected bike lanes.
Beyond that, we’ve seen work started on a Greenway connecting Montclair and Jersey City, nine miles through very dense, urban landscape, where there will be dedicated bike lanes throughout. NJ has so many old rail lines that there’s been an effort to turn into pedestrian ways. There’s one that comes to mind that’s 20 miles. Ideally we would also take some of those old railways and make them unold, and add additional rail lines, but things move slowly in a tiny state with 565 municipalities.
All I know is I’m fortunate to be part of the Northeast Corridor of the US, which is seemingly one of the few places that tries to do some forward thinking.
Beautiful, I just wish they hadn’t insisted on keeping the parallel parking and planted some trees instead.
I am jelly as heaven now!
That automotive crossing in frame center is seriously bad vibes. The car parking immediately adjacent to the driveway - A driveway that presumably leads to more car parking - Means zero bike visibility for drivers turning right off the street. That’s a near-guaranteed cyclist injury or death in the future, which becomes even more likely the smaller the cyclist is. None of the road signs seem to warn of the presence of the bike lane. And there’s another car crossing 20 feet after that! Aesthetically this lane looks pleasing to the North American eye but I expect it wouldn’t actually pass muster in a place like NL.
It’s certainly a move in the right direction but I’d stop short of calling it “good” when it’s not even safe.
Wow this is what I first noticed as well. But then I thought at least it’s better than what we have in my city, which is nothing.
