Pretty sure the masters of gaslighting are the Republicans who have spent the last month telling us that the innocent people they’re murdering and disappearing in the streets of America are “domestic terrorists” orchestrating a “massacre”.
Pretty sure the masters of gaslighting are the Republicans
Agreed. Both of the parties are gaslighting the public and the Republicans are MUCH better at it than the DNC are.
To the point that they’re more successful in spite of being MUCH more out of touch with the needs and wants of regular people when it comes to actual policy rather than propaganda.
That doesn’t mean that the DNC leadership isn’t dishonest. They’re just not anywhere near as good at messaging as the fascists are.
Agreed. Both of the parties are gaslighting the public and the Republicans are MUCH better at it than the DNC are.
okay …
<looks at post>
The Democrats are the undisputed masters of gaslighting
hmm …
I didn’t come up with the post title, and it was close enough to the point even if it wasn’t LITERALLY true AKA thematically accurate hyperbole 🤷
Why didn’t you change it? It’s not a news article.
it was close enough to the point
GOP lie so much more than the Dems it’s absolutely unreal
even if it wasn’t […] thematically accurate hyperbole
… k
thanks for the downvote by the way shows your maturity
Why didn’t you change it?
Because it wasn’t wrong about the most important fact, that they gaslight a lot. The hyperbole of calling them the “masters” of it is sometimes deliberately used (though not by me) to mean that they do it a lot, and I figured that all but the nittiest of pickers would get that either intuitively or after considering it briefly.
Congrats on being part of that elite, I guess 🤷
GOP lie so much more than the Dems it’s absolutely unreal
Which is itself hyperbole. While the GOP lie more often (and a LOT more blatantly), the difference in frequency isn’t anywhere near as big as it’s commonly believed to be by most non-fascists.
thanks for the downvote by the way shows your maturity
There’s nothing immature about registering my disapproval of lazy and illogical nitpicking used to distract from valid and important points.
Which is itself hyperbole. While the GOP lie more often (and a LOT more blatantly), the difference in frequency isn’t anywhere near as big as it’s commonly believed to be by most non-fascists.
I remember this old nugget: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/
To be clear, this is unfalsifiable we have no idea how many “is commonly believed to be” by non-fascists.
There’s nothing immature about registering my disapproval of lazy and illogical nitpicking used to distract from valid and important points.
It’s not nitpicking, there’s a context in which you’re using hyperbole and the direct obvious comparison to be made is the GOP whom are in charge and have power and lie constantly and more often. In using hyperbole, you’re diminishing the lies by the GOP either intentionally or not.
In terms of distracting from valid points. I would say you’re doing that by attacking the minority party by letting the majority GOP keep going with ICE and their overseas wars.
😮💨
I can explain it to you and I have, thoroughly and clearly, but I can’t understand it for you.
Have the day you deserve.
How is it gaslighting if everyone expects them to fold?
Ah yes, sure and what were democrats doing?
Despite Authoritarian Warnings, 149 House Democrats Vote to Hand Trump $840 Billion for Military
But but but… if we’re splitting hairs and stuff and put our heads in sand, they’re totally different and fighting for the people.
Wild to see these sort of memes finally being upvoted. Pity it had to take until fascists were murdering people in the street, in broad daylight, and protected by the fascist state.
Pity it had to take until fascists were murdering white people in the street
quick fix
The fascists were murdering people in the streets well before now
Good fix
But they weren’t the white people. Once they started openly murdering us whities they didn’t care. Something something love me I’m a liberal going on here.
Thank you for reminding me of this Phil Ochs classic ❤️
There are multiple shades of political opinion. The shadiest is the liberal. <3
Fediverse working as intended.
They can’t use their “you’re complaining about US in a US platform, lmao” gotcha anymore. And well, also censor and hide it as well as they do on mainstream platforms.
Yeah, the Democrats have not beaten the paid opposition argument with me at all. Most of them seem okay with voting for ICE funding and Trump appointees. They cannot even form a cohesive line in the sand like the fascists can except hen it comes to performative voting like denouncing socialism. The neo-liberal is NOT out way out of this mess.
See meme in election year
Look inside
More “dems just as bad” stupidity
Hold on folks, it’s only going to get worse the closer we get!
More “dems just as bad” stupidity
There’s that tired whataboutism we know and loathe 🙄
Criticizing the Dems ≠ saying that the fascists aren’t worse than them. Just like decrying the Israeli genocide of Palestinians ≠ saying that it’s worse than the Holocaust was.
And nope, I criticize the Dems (and the fascists and every other politician I’m aware of deserving criticism) EVERY year. It’s not my fault that YOU only pay attention during election years.
Based eternal criticism! I’lll take your word for it, as I don’t track individual posting habits. I just notice a general uptick in “dems bad”, “don’t vote”, and similar when we get closer to an election.
I just notice (…) when we get closer to an election.
That’s my point. Claiming without any proof that any criticism is based on it being election season and therefore might be false flag bottery is a classic deflection tactic not unlike many that the fascists use when people on their side criticize the Mango Mussolini.
Hahaha buddy, pump the breaks, you may want to live up to the username and enjoy some nature. Pointing out meme trends without cyberstalking every poster on the Fediverse first isn’t cryptofash tactics.
Every other year is an election year, ironically I haven’t seen anything out of you in 2025 and now that it is an election year, here you are.
I’m not saying you weren’t but its funny that I remember you posting alot in 2024 and your post actually made me think about it.
ironically I haven’t seen anything out of you in 2025
Because you haven’t been CHECKING in 2025. I’ve been criticizing them for their cowardly compliance with the fascist regimes of the US and Israel more times in 2025 than I’ve posted pictures of my two cats The Fabulous Staredycat Sisters and that’s SAYING something 😁
Lol I believe it! its just the first time I noticed was all. I think there just more active users than when I joined Lemmy so your posts were a much larger chunk of visible posts back then.😆
I see more of the opposite on Lemmy lately, which is pandering, slobbering endorsements for establishment Dems like Schumer from 28-day-old accounts.
We can vote dems, it’s fine to vote dems. Entirely new candidates running on Dem platforms like we did with Mamdani and others recently. The DNC is just a container, we pour out the old, rotten contents and replace them with new people who actually want to work for us.
Interesting! I have literally never once seen Schumer defended by anyone on Lemmy, but my eyes aren’t yours, and that is fishy asf with new accounts.
100% agree the DNC is an umbrella that we need to fill with good candidates that aren’t bought out and beholden ti special interests.
They’re not openly saying Schumer is the GOAT or anything, astroturfers and bots know better than to mask-off immediately, but there’s a LOT of pushback happening right now when people complain about Democrats broadly, and will work HARD to support voting dems and whinge and cry against criticism of establishment dems, but will avoid or pivot talking about criticisms of the old-guard establishment. It’s obvious for anyone over the age of like, 11.
They get really mad when you suggest they’re collaborating with the GOP.
But if you check account history most of them are less than a month old. I’ve seen this every election year, they really are working together.
(For the record, I support voting dems, but all NEW dems, flush the incumbent toilet on the DNC’s contents and lets refill it with fresh water.)
I’ll vote for any Democrat over any Republican. And I’ll primary any Democrat that’s a Republican cuck.
How dare they judge us based off who we voted for, like our actions have consequences or something. It’s bullshit. I just want to criticize everything, contribute nothing, and still receive praise from actual leftists.
The people being mocked by this meme isn’t people who voted for the Dems. It’s the Dems who keep abusing the trust of anyone that does by breaking their promises of affecting meaningful change for regular people.
To put it another way: this is criticizing Lucy for pulling away the football more than Charlie Brown for thinking she won’t do it this time.
Wow. What an ugly font.
If we let Republicans ruin the country then people will vote for us, if we stop them then people will vote Republican.
Is a more verbose way of putting it.
Exactly. Had Harris won we would STILL have alienated almost every ally we’ve had for centuries, deployed a completely undertrained ICE brute squad to liberal cities to kill citizens, attempt to destroy the economy with tarrifs, pull back support for Ukraine and assist Putin, appointed insane maga lifetime federal judges that would cause a generation of suffering, destroy NATO incentivising more nations to build their own nuclear stockpiles… this was all inevitable no matter who won because the dems candidate was a genocidal maniac. Harris = Trump. /s
It must hurt Viking’s brain that we live in a fascist world where all we have to pick from is the lesser of the two evils.
It must hurt Viking’s brain that we live in a fascist world
Of course. If the return of fascism to the richest country in the history of the world DOESN’T hurt your brain and several other parts of you, you’re either extremely ignorant, extremely twisted, or both.
where all we have to pick from is the lesser of the two evils.
Yeah, there’s that learned helplessness that Neoliberals and their enablers trot out the moment anyone dares hold them to account from the Left 🙄
Return of fascism!? It never left. The US was fascist before the term existed.
I think you imagine there is another option when the entire world is ran by wealthy and their favorite proxy the corporation.
Show me a country without an ever widening income gap and I will believe you that there is another option besides starting over.
Return of fascism!? It never left
In terms of existing at all you’re right, but in terms of being the base ideology of the government, it did.
The US was fascist before the term existed.
It shared significant aspects, yes, but that’s not the same as fully BEING fascist any more than being an overrated team sport with a ball makes basketball the same thing as baseball*
I think you imagine there is another option when the entire world is ran by wealthy and their favorite proxy the corporation
Again: that’s an aspect of fascism, but also an aspect of many OTHER bad forms of government such as Neoliberalism, paleoconservatism, and anarcho-capitalism.
Show me a country without an every widening income gap and I will believe you that there is another option besides starting over.
Capitalism ≠ fascism. The latter is the inevitable consequence when the former isn’t sufficiently kept in check and both need to be abolished for the good of humanity, but that still doesn’t mean that they’re the same thing.
*yes, this example WAS ridiculous on purpose to inject a little levity.
I have studied the American revolution with a critical eye and I can definitely tell you that the “founding fathers” were the very definition of corporatism. They also ticked off all the bad things people usually associate with fascism as well. I go off Mussolini’s definition of fascism as opposed to scholars who don’t want believe their country is fascist.
Viking, 90% of all policies in every nation in the world are written by corporations. We live in a corporatocracy which is arguably the natural result of corporatism in the modern world.
I think you are imagining capitalism as the mythical “small business capitalism” when in reality it always leads to concentration of power hence the reality we live in. You can prove me wrong by showing me a capitalist practicing nation that doesn’t have an ever increasing wealth gap.
Capitalism leads to corporatism that leads to a corporatocracy. I also don’t buy into the “keeping it in check” belief that tries to condition us that capitalism will work under the right circumstances.
Of course it will work, by concentrating power leading to fascism like it already has. It will never be regulated into small business capitalism because that is just the larval stage.
Is it an election year already?
Then they’d be saying it’s too late to object. You have to do party building on non-election years, including midterms, and not until the new party has 51% support.
Every year
Spoken like a true Jill Steiner.
Spoken like a true Hillbot 🙄
