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Vote for trump everyone they said. He wont take your guns they said. I wonder do any of these 2A assholes understand how they have been played.
They don’t care. The 2A assholes are being outed largely as nothing more than racists and homophobes looking for a reason to kill people they don’t like.
I know. The problem for them is that among all those that don’t care are more than enough that do care. The very thing they preached the democrats were going to do is going to be difficult for them to do. They are just one pissed off sub Forest Gump from getting shot it by their own base. Trump doesn’t know it but his handlers do.
I mean, they have a history of flipping their stance around 2A. Pro-2A flipped as soon as the Black Panthers armed themselves and did public displays of open carry within their rights.
Regan was very quick to sign gun control laws as soon as that happened.
Disarming then shooting a man who’s weapon was holstered would lead me to believe that the “officers” are not the victim.
They are agents, not officers.
They are a bunch of hyenas, not agents.
That too. I was just pointing out that they didn’t go through any sort of OCS.
Although, I think that Jim Cummings hyena (Ed) in the Lion King, is smarter than these agents.
This is insulting to actual hyenas.
Wtf did we sacrifice thousands of school children for then
“You cannot bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It’s that simple. You don’t have that right to break the law and incite violence,” Kash Patel said. Like Kyle Rittenhouse? Or all the other cosplaying Meal Team Six smooth brains that like to counterprotest? Cool, cool, cool
In case anyone forgot, Rittenhouse went to a protest with a loaded rifle looking for a fight, shot
twothree people, walked away untouched, was acquitted, and got speaking gigs on conservative TV shows. You can do whatever you want as long as you’re on the “right” side.fun fact: teenage Rittenhouse had better discipline and control during the immediate timeframe of him shooting people than these 5+ year ICE/CBP goons have
regardless of what he set out to do, if you watch the videos of the event, it’s actually less of a transgression than the shit going on now. and that’s, uh, sad.
Yep, both were looking for a fight. But Kyle was actually trying to get out of the situation. These people are literally executing people.
Its not judicial justice but he has a hard time showing his face. Colleges rejected his applications and so have prospective jobs.
They’re scared shitless that Minnesotans will realize they can legally carry rifles (they need a handgun permit tho) and ICE only has pistols
They’re already out numbered 10-1 everytime they get out of their trucks.
CCWs don’t help, because they’re not a visual deterrent and the act of drawing would get you shot.
But a big fuck off rifle will make them get back in the truck. America has a dark history, so fuck it let’s co-opt it.
Let’s see how the racists feel when they get followed everywhere by a group of people with rifles.
I have a feeling bare minimum they won’t be so quick to escalate to violence.
That’s exactly what they’re looking for to justify escalation. “Look the protestors have rifles now, we need assault rifles.” The only alternative is to show up with enough people that they don’t have the bullets to stop them. Otherwise you’re playing into their hands.
Oh yeah, because surely they wouldn’t escalate to murdering people in the street anyways…
Uhhhhh, no. That will work temporarily.
Then they send in the tanks.
Even modern tanks have flaws in urban environments
Yeah, but against people with portable ATGMs, like Javelins or NLAWs. Anything else is not going to make a dent in an Abrams tank.
Also, they’d be much more likely to send in IFVs, like Bradleys. They’re much “better” equipped to deal with “people”.
Please share those flaws with the group. We may need to know soon…maybe next week.
Gasoline, Diesel, napalm if you can get it, basically all vehicles are susceptible to having their engine compartment lit on fire since even if it doesn’t destroy it outright something important will get cooked. Otherwise pits work great if you can build them, undermining a road could backfire but blowing up a overflow cistern could have a similar effect if needed.
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Its worth looking into chemical reactions. Keep in mind a bomb is anything that holds pressure until it suddenly doesnt. With a little ingenuity you can make almost anything into a bomb, and there are jo personel defenses and few vehicular defenses against a properly prepared bomb.
No gun will save you from the government. They will always have more force than you. But if you can force them to come to you, you can control where engagements happen. The geneva convention only applies to governments, the rest of the world is not going to care about you using biological or chemical weapons against your government.
Get a gasmask, bleach and ammonia mixed make chlorine gas. Leave barrels of gasoline around your property and practice shooting. You can get mercury out of old thermometers and use them to make tilt switches so that when someone steps on something, it activates. Timothy mcveigh (horrible dude, im not glorifying him here) showed how effective fertilizer bombs can be.
To be clear, im not advocating for any of this, simply listing your options.
Literally just Molotov cocktails lobbed at the engine bay ventilation from an elevated location. It’ll make them overheat and die. And maybe set up some zip lines in advance or something.
The US military is great at fighting other militaries. It’s terrible at fighting resistance movements. It’s why it lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And Vietnam, and south America, it’s why the Russians can’t take Ukraine. When the citizens are willing to be part of the war effort you cannot stop an insurgency without removing that will to fight, or killing every single person.
They pardoned the january 6 people. I guess that only counts if you’re specifically aiding Trump in a crime.
In today’s installment of “rights for me, none for thee”.
Who has that definition of fascism handy?
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Powerful, often exclusionary, populist nationalism centered on cult of a redemptive, “infallible” leader who never admits mistakes.
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Political power derived from questioning reality, endorsing myth and rage, and promoting lies.
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Fixation with perceived national decline, humiliation, or victimhood.
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White Replacement “Theory” used to show that democratic ideals of freedom and equality are a threat.Oppose any initiatives or institutions that are racially, ethnically, or religiously harmonious.
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Disdain for human rights while seeking purity and cleansing for those they define as part of the nation.
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Identification of “enemies”/scapegoats as a unifying cause. Imprison and/or murder opposition and minority group leaders.
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Supremacy of the military and embrace of paramilitarism in an uneasy, but effective collaboration with traditional elites. Fascists arm people and justify and glorify violence as “redemptive”.
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Rampant sexism.
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Control of mass media and undermining “truth”.
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Obsession with national security, crime and punishment, and fostering a sense of the nation under attack.
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Religion and government are intertwined.
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Corporate power is protected and labor power is suppressed.
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Disdain for intellectuals and the arts not aligned with the fascist narrative.
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Rampant cronyism and corruption. Loyalty to the leader is paramount and often more important than competence.
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Fraudulent elections and creation of a one-party state.
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Often seeking to expand territory through armed conflict.
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He is betting “all in” that the Nazi party will remain in power. If they are deposed, he faces life in prison or potentially the death penalty.
No, he doesn’t. The democrats will never do anything about this.
Real life Colonel Lockjaw.
Hopefully he has the same ending as lockjaw.
Bovine doesn’t wear as much protection as others. Just saying. Wouldn’t be too hard.
I think you underestimate how hard it is to hit such a small target.
Just aim for the asshole.
Just spray you might catch a few hitmen along with the Himmler
He’s the bait. The people who really need kinetic therapy are aware they deserve it and are hiding. Just look up project 2025 authors and a list of billionaires and you’re most of the way there.
I wonder where he lives…
“Bovino” means little cow. Emphasis on “little”.
I called him Bovine the flatulate the other day. No one commented but I still think he needs a name to represent him properly.
Champions of the 2nd amendment are now content with the idea that if you actually exercise it then you can be freely executed by “law enforcement”, or whatever ICE pretends to be. Cool.
Has the NRA commented on this? For once, I am interested in their opinion.
as per the bbc article linked by the other dude who replied to you, the NRA and other pro-gun lobby groups have urged investigation into the circumstances of Pretti’s death. I’m kind of interested in how much that divides Trump supporters who are mostly pro-ice and pro-gun. It probably won’t tbh…
The FBI immediately monopolized the investigation. The result has already been decided, they’re just pretending to look at evidence first.
This has to be a tipping point.
No, they just want a ‘investigation’ (which, I read, will be held by ICE themselves)
They should be on the war path, but since it’s Trump they let him have a little bit “tyrannical dictatorship without a constitution” as a treat.
This is literary what they claim to be all about and their reaction is “let’s wait and see what bullshit they can invent to justify this”
“I see the radical left NRA has gone WOKE. Sad. Thank you for your attention to this matter.”
They’re not going to abandon daddy Trump at this point. They have no other identity in their lives.
Not yet ,its just started
The NRA has been surprisingly consistent actually (for better or worse).
We need more community defense classes now more than ever. Seriously!
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. -TJ
I saw an analysis recently where someone went through the grievances of the Declaration of Independence and fully like 2/3rds of them applied to the Trump admin.
But he’s not quartering soldiers in people’s homes so everything’s cool.
the fact that “amendments” exist and were won by bloody fights and protests tells one that the founding of the US was never, ever, about equality or rights endowed by a creator.
1: the quote is from the declaration of independence, not the US Constitution that was written 13 years later after the initial weak federal government was found to be too weak.
2: 11 of the ratified amendments were essentially part of the bargain to get said Constitution passed. And absent the civil war amendments, none of the subsequent amendments were passed due to violence. (Maybe you’re thinking of the VRA?)
3: that SCOTUS has devolved into a creative writing exercise in “how can we pretend the Constitution doesn’t say what it says”, apparently Jefferson was right and enumerated rights were a mistake. (Given the benefit of hindsight, an equally difficult process for removing rights recognized by Congress or SCOTUS would have been better.)
I mean there needed to be a rule that SCOTUS couldn’t grant immunity to lawsuits or exempt the government from lawsuits.
One obvious sign the constitution was not designed with much thought is that the Supreme Court and the Electoral College are both examples of what people in the 1700s thought would create apolitical processes with diametrically opposing theories (permanent = apolitical, temporary = apolitical) and the electoral college is definitely more successful so far in achieving its stated goals.
The point of the electoral college isn’t to be apolitical, it’s to guarantee that the president is elected by the states and not the people. That was part of the compromise between the national and federal sides of the government. Though since the capping of the number in the House the government has been lopsided toward federal.
- im aware. was speaking of the system soup to nuts. so why was it necessary to have a bargain to get it passed?
The list of grievances. See any parallels?
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
“All men are created equal”
Slave state!
"All men are created equally…just uh, ya know, please forget the families of slaves that we, the founding fathers, keep in our control.
don’t forget the ladies. those hysterical beasts don’t get to vote until the early 1900’s. for context my grandfather was born in 1919. (he dead. just saying its not that long ago.)
I’m just checking out this community and I gotta say that I expected to see world-wide news on here but it’s just full of US news… The community should be renamed to “US News”
Sorry, a world super power is devolving in to civil war. It’s kinda topical.
Ok NRA, so they’re saying we don’t have 2nd amendment rights anymore. You’re gonna pull all that right wing funding now, right?
Right?
Depends on what their Russian handlers think is best
This is the answer.
Actually yes they did, they tweeted about this situation yesterday, you should check it out
Tweeting is not action.
How dare you belittle my activism like that
That’s not how rights work.
The 2nd amendment is literally for when the government says rights don’t matter…
That’s how rights work, they’re not inalienable because the government pinky swore to leave them alone. They’re inalienable because the people are explicitly responsible for maintaining that.
Some generations get to eat the cake, some have to make it, and we’re all about to get a baking lesson whether we want to or not, it ain’t gonna be a choice.
Yeah I didn’t know you are only allowed to use one right at a time. What kind of sense would that make lol
