Some 1,500 active duty Army paratroopers have been put on alert for a potential deployment to Minnesota, according to two defense officials.

They’re ones who are trained and equipped for arctic warfare. This is kind of thing you do when planning to massacre civilians.

Edit: The Washington Post is now saying the same thing:

Pentagon readies 1,500 soldiers to possibly deploy to Minnesota, officials say

Soldiers with the Army’s 11th Airborne Division in Alaska have been placed at the ready following Trump’s Insurrection Act threat, according to defense officials.

    • Jessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      73·
      16 days ago

      It must be so much worse than we think. There must be photos and/or videos of Trump raping children in the files.

    • pigup@lemmy.world
      17·
      16 days ago

      cocaine+ultra-rich,+malignant narcissism = killing and raping for fun, torture. Remember that ring of freaks that were into videos of great apes getting tortured? That’s for poor people. When you’re the richest people in the world, you get to do it for real without consequence.

      The lack of empathy runs extremely deep.

      The way I think about it is: it’s so bad that Putin can use it to blackmail a comfortable billionaire into upending his whole life and running for president and winning and following through with all that insane shit. Believe me, that fat lazy piece of shit would much rather sit back and keep fucking children and snorting cocaine at Mar-a-Lago. He’s doing this because he has to, Elon Musk is doing this because he has to. They fucking know.

    • Kirp123@lemmy.world
      36·
      16 days ago

      Like they complied with orders to shoot civilians in boats in the Carribean? Or do those not count?

    • green_red_black@slrpnk.netEnglish
      16·
      16 days ago

      Seeing as the troops (different units I know but still.) obeyed the very much illegal Venezuela Raid I think it’s obvious what they are going to do if mobilized

    • WindyRebel@lemmy.world
      7·
      16 days ago

      People that comment about the civilians of Venezuela aren’t taking into account the psychology of those you know versus those you don’t. Firing on American civilians is going to be very different mind game, even for soldiers trained to kill. Being on home turf and having to actually destroy your own infrastructure and kill people you know have a culture the same as yours is different even if there are political differences. Hearing fellow soldiers screaming and crying for mom or help after being shot is a mind fuck in war, but then hearing civilians do it? Knowing you will go home and face people there that question whether you did it and then their treatment of you afterward is going to be a factor. Most are not career military…

      There will be those that do it, but I’m willing to put money on more soldiers that second guess, hesitate, or purposely miss if ordered to fire.

    • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
      65·
      16 days ago

      Could be; both are utterly illegal and any soldier who follows an order to attack either deserves to be prosecuted

      • StinkyFingerItchyBum@lemmy.caEnglish
        26·
        16 days ago

        Prosecuted? Maybe. Summary execution, definitely. They aren’t soldiers. Soldiers took an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Anyone attacking civilians and protestors is just a regular old fashioned mass murderer.

      • bassomitron@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        16 days ago

        I don’t think it’s so black and white. A lot of those soldiers are barely surviving and their money feeds their kids. Enlisted don’t have the luxury of disobeying orders blindly, that law is applicable to the officers issuing them.

        Having said that, as a vet, I would do malicious incompetence and sabotage our mission in “incompetent” ways as much as possible. Also, I would never open fire on innocent civilians no matter what.

        • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
          41·
          16 days ago

          Sorry but levying war against the United States is the one crime laid out in the Constitution. Don’t Do It.

          • bassomitron@lemmy.worldEnglish
            8·
            16 days ago

            Yeah, I was quite drunk last night. You’re 100% right that in this context, soldiers would have the ability to disobey these types of unlawful orders under the UCMJ.

            • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
              31·
              16 days ago

              They know full well they’re going to Minnesota to kill a bunch of people for…blowing whistles.

              Right move in that situation is ro refuse.

              • FishFace@piefed.socialEnglish
                2·
                16 days ago

                I don’t think they do know that. How many brainwashed people have you met yourself? Have you listened to any Fox News coverage - what would someone who trusts that outlet believe?

                • homes@piefed.worldEnglish
                  7·
                  16 days ago

                  I have met a lot of both active duty and retired service members. Not a single one of them would follow such an order.

                  Have you ever met a United States service member?

              • DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world
                2·
                16 days ago

                You’re ignoring the nuance, which is a weapon of Maga, so be better. The orders don’t say kill them. It says “go and maintain order”. Politics aside, they think they are the good guys. Many of them don’t have a clue that they’re being used as puppets to escalate the fascist takeover.

                • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
                  3·
                  15 days ago

                  Sure, there is what is explicit, but they have access to the same news I do, and know what this is about. The US military isn’t operating in an information vacuum like the Soviet army in Budapest during the cold war who thought they were there to fight Americans

        • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
          2·
          14 days ago

          I don’t think it’s so black and white.

          Legal Eagle did a video about this. Ultimately an American soldier is liable for carrying out illegal orders. Refusing illegal orders is extremely complicated, but carrying them out is still illegal and they are subject to the law. It doesn’t matter if they were “just following orders”.

          https://youtu.be/wkaS3-9WvM8

          Edit: spelling

    • takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      5·
      16 days ago

      At this point I think it is distraction. Notice that if he actually intends on doing something he just does it (giving Russia edge over Ukraine, Venezuela etc).

      If that’s not his choice, but wants to distract media (hello Epstein) he just talks about it (for example aid to Ukraine, help to Iranians).

      • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
        22·
        16 days ago

        He telegraphed intent to attack Venezuela for months before actually sending the military to kidnap their president.

        • takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          5·
          15 days ago

          That’s because to do the mission he needed to get snug Navy present there. He used drug snuggling smuggling as an excuse. And that took few months.

          Notice that once mission was performed now the drugs are no longer a problem.

    • benderbeerman@lemmy.world
      11·
      15 days ago

      Shouldn’t they be training to invade a certain house of the white persuasion? Something something foreign and domestic…

    • ExLisperA
      11·
      15 days ago

      Wouldn’t invading Minnesota be the best training?

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
    17·
    14 days ago

    Those soldiers better remember the US Constitution is the number one priority and not following illegal orders is lawful.