Scene with Jesus on the cross. A MAGA person wearing a thin blue line flag shirt pointing at Jesus saying “He should have just obeyed the law!”
They even say this for when the law that’s being broken is like stealing $10 makeup. Right wing lunatics think that “law and order” means that if a person steals $10 worth of property from a store then you have the right to murder them if they fight back or flee.
I love the guy to his left. You can see him thinking “Wtf time-pilgrim, that’s messed up.”
I wouldn’t say a MAGA person as the description, just a standard reactionary traitor.
THE POWER OF ICE COMPELS THEE! THE POWER OF ICE COMPELS THEE!
I get conservatives saying jesus obeyed the law and its no jesus broke the law be inciting a rebellion and claiming to be the sun of god, jesus just told you to pay taxes
extreme radical lunatic left winger.
i always wondered why jesus never used his god powers to get off the cross, but then i realized he’s like a vampire, but instead of a stake through the heart it’s nails through the hands
The entire purpose of Jesus being born and living was to choose to willingly die on the cross so he could take on humanities sins. Without his death, there would be no Christianity.
While true, can we stop pretending like this makes any fucking sense at all?
Like you’re supposed to read your comment and be like “ohhhhh OK, in that case…”
It’s all fucking dumb. Yahweh is supposed to be all-powerful (and all knowing and all loving, etc.), yet the only way he could “save humanity” was to come up with a convoluted plan involving splitting himself into a human form, sending it to earth for 30+ years, and then violently executing it?
Couldn’t he just have, I don’t know, done none of that?
I didn’t say it makes sense. For me, it doesn’t. Just pointing out that that is how the Christian religion believes it to be.
The idea is that he could have, but it was through his suffering that mankind would be saved. I’m not a believer but from a literary perspective, the story is that if he saved himself, all humanity would suffer. His human nature wanted to survive and avoid suffering but to do so would go against God’s will and humanity would not be absolved of sin. He overcame his human nature to embrace the will of God. Hence his prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will”
By the way, the nails actually go through the wrists in crucifixion, between the bones (radius and ulna). If you put the nails through the palms like they so often show, the weight of the body would just make them rip through the meat of the hands between the fingers.
Right, but God could have just not created him in the first place. The entire plan to send himself to earth as a human is insanely convoluted and makes no sense when you’re literally all powerful.
God works in mysterious ways, amiright?
Yeah exactly, the ultimate cop out response haha
Well, that’s why I look at it solely from a literary perspective. The whole idea of creating mankind, while knowing the whole future of everyone who will ever exist, and then punishing humanity because one of the very first people created failed to obey his rules, something God knew they would do, is simply absurd. But as a story it’s interesting.
The whole premise of the God in the Bible makes little sense. To quote Epicurus:
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
Omnipotence, Omniscience, Benevolence. Choose any two.
Sure, but there are tons of interesting stories. I’m not going to base my life on any of them
Oh, I didn’t mean to suggest one should. I fully agree with you. I was just discussing the text.
I wonder how much trial and error went into figuring out the ideal nail placement.
He never used his powers for his own benefit, neither for his material advantage nor to show off or get out of bad situations. He only used his power to help others. That’s at least a more reasonable and in character reading than yours.
He never used his powers for his own benefit
I bet he drank some of that wine at that wedding
But he never did it when he was alone, at least not that we know of
Oh, so he’s like Gandalf.
Because the whole point was that he was sent to die for humanity’s sins.
If he got off the cross how would he forgive people for killing him and for breaking the crazy rules he himself set up earlier? Like, have ever tried forgiving someone without being born as another person, making them angry and letting them kill you first? It’s impossible.
Please stop making him sound cool
