Tell me you’re a dumbass without telling me you’re a dumbass

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    22 days ago

    “The fact that they landed a boat there 500 years ago doesn’t mean they own the land”

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    22 days ago

    Holy fucking shit.

    This timeline just keeps getting dumber.

    This is the fucking savior of half of the voting population of the United States.

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      22 days ago

      You’ve really gotta get your numbers right. Due to the structure of American democracy, the President is not the one who gets more than half the votes, nor the one who even gets the most popular votes necessarily. If you think 1 out of 2 American adults is a Trump supporter, you’re walking around thinking you have a fraction of the allies you do, which is a win for the regime.

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        22 days ago

        “the voting population”

        1 out of 2 American adults who give enough of a fuck to vote are Trump supporters.

      • qqq@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        Trump won the popular vote by more than 2 million votes. Their numbers are right.

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      22 days ago

      I honestly can’t tell if satire is dead or satire is now so easy nobody can make a living from it.

      Only last week I made a joke about Musk locking CSAM generation behind Grok Premium, and yesterday he did exactly that…

  • thericofactor@sh.itjust.works
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    22 days ago

    He is simply and clearly steering towards WW3.

    He needs oil to power the army, Venezuela provides him with the resources. He has just increased the military budget by 50% to 1.5 trillion dollars. You don’t need 1.5 trillion dollars for defence. He renamed the department of defense to department of War. It’s always right in front of your nose with this guy, but everyone refuses to believe someone can be such a retard.

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      22 days ago

      This is not a “Trump problem”.

      He’s the scapegoat, he’s the public stumbling goofy sun-downing mook.

      If Trump dies tomorrow, the machine will keep running.

      It’s always been the Department of War, regardless of the name.

        • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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          20 days ago

          He’s a shit celebrity. There are thousands of those. Reagan is another example.

          They know how to get votes, they have study groups and polls and a thousand other ways to manipulate the electorate. The key to winning elections is to

          1. Include Independent voters in your platform so that they vote for you.
          2. Spend millions on advertising and so on.

          Biggest spender wins over 90% of the time. You don’t get to be the biggest spender by prole donations. The biggest “donators” are JP Morgan, Citibank, Bank of America, Musk, and so on.

          They don’t need to “steal” elections. They are bought, legally. See Super PACs.

    • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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      22 days ago

      The Venezuelan oil is sour garbage that we don’t have the industrial resources to process in a meaningful way. There might be shit tons of it, but as it stands we can’t do very much with it.

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        Well he’s strategically planning for a war. It’s only slightly mired by the fact that he’s a brainless moron.

        He probably thinks you can just pump oil out of the ground and directly into a vehicles fuel tank. Look at that aircraft that Saudi Arabia is giving him, he’s so goddamn pleased with it even though it’s a piece of junk because he thinks that the thing is the goal, in and of itself. He has no idea that processes need to happened to make that end goal.

        I’d love to watch him play any kind of game that involves strategy and planning because I’m reasonably confident he’d suck at it.

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        22 days ago

        He did not un-rename it, he got a DBA. It’s still officially the Department of Defense until Congress changes the name by resolution.

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    22 days ago

    Who can still take this ridiculous saber rattling by the orange rapist seriously when it is completely obvious that he is only trying to distract attention from his crimes? It’s really getting old.

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      22 days ago

      Who can still take this ridiculous saber rattling by the orange rapist seriously when it is completely obvious that he is only trying to distract attention from his crimes?

      He literally just kidnapped the head of state of another country using military force.

      “An attempt to distract from his crimes” and “A serious threat to international peace” are not mutually exclusive.

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        22 days ago

        He literally just kidnapped the head of state of another country using military force.

        Well yes (although I’d argue how much of that was him vs Rubio), but doing so was preceded by a large naval buildup that we don’t see with Greenland. Not to mention that those naval assets are still there extorting Venezuela and another naval deployment of that size would leave INDOPACOM under resourced for maintaining the Island Chain containment on China.

        Basically, it’s not actually a serious threat at this point.

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          Well yes (although I’d argue how much of that was him vs Rubio), but doing so was preceded by a large naval buildup that we don’t see with Greenland.

          1. Yet.

          2. Greenland is much less defended than Venezuela.

          Not to mention that those naval assets are still there extorting Venezuela and another naval deployment of that size would leave INDOPACOM under resourced for maintaining the Island Chain containment on China.

          What makes you think the shitwit supreme cares about long-term US strategic interests like containment of China?

          • freagle@lemmy.ml
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            22 days ago

            Because the MIC would remove him if he threatened their long term interests. It’s not hard.

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          Nuuk has a population of 20000, and more than 1/3 of all people in Greenland live there. How much of a naval buildup do you need to take a town of this size?

          I’m not sure he even has to bother about taking Nuuk. If he just declared Greenland being a US-territory and started to build a mine somewhere - would Greenland, Denmark or the rest of NATO have the capability to deny this?

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        22 days ago

        An attack on Denmark would most likely mean the end of NATO and have a massive impact on the already damaged relationship with Europe. The EU would be forced to respond in one way or another. Even a megalomaniac like this bastard can’t be stupid enough to accept that.

        This is either a distraction or an attempt to put pressure on Denmark in order to gain leverage in negotiations.

        Of course, it is still absolutely true that the US under this absurd Nazi regime poses a considerable threat to world peace. The regime devalues international law with its ruthless acts, leaving only the law of the strongest to apply, which is of course an enormous step backwards for civilization - even though the UN, also largely due to the US, has never really taken it seriously.

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          22 days ago

          Even a megalomaniac like this bastard can’t be stupid enough to accept that.

          Never underestimate human stupidity - or Trump’s stupidity, for that matter.

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            22 days ago

            Yes, that’s true, but on the other hand, this criminal is also more than well known for bluffing with bullshit statements. And: This whole story is so completely absurd and would have such negative consequences that, in my opinion, it can only be another bluff. It could be fatal for the US because it would isolate the country even more. Not that the orange rapist would care about the fate of US citizens, but an attack on the EU would have economic consequences in the billions, and that can’t be good for the real rulers in the US, which is why they will forbid their puppet from making such a self-destructive move.

            It may well be that they have lost control, as the German economic elite did with Hitler at the time, but I consider that unlikely, because there is so much dirt on this pedo that the elite can easily bring him down as soon as he falls out of favor.

            I think we must never forget what an absolute clown the US president is: he was on the verge of bankruptcy before he became president. So he is not part of the ruling elite, but dependent on it - and if he steps out of line too much, even his MAGA cult will be of no use against the wrath of the one percent.

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              It may well be that they have lost control, as the German economic elite did with Hitler at the time, but I consider that unlikely, because there is so much dirt on this pedo that the elite can easily bring him down as soon as he falls out of favor.

              What dirt could possibly bring Trump down? His bootlicking followers are conditioned to dismiss or justify everything, up to and including literal pedophilia.

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                He gets away with everything because he controls the media through his billionaire friends - both traditional media and social media (Truth Social, which he owns, has little reach). Likewise, it is not him who controls people like Clarence Thomas for example (that would be billionaire Harlon Crow). So I’d say he is only untouchable because he acts in the interests of the elite. If he were to turn against them, things would very quickly look very differently.

                I think it’s a foregone conclusion that the elite pushed him into the highest political office precisely because he is such a disgusting, perverted scumbag. That means there is more than enough dirt on him to bring him down. With Hitler, it was different.

                Of course, it is always possible that he will use ICE, which is obviously a secret police force, against the elite, but I think it is rather unlikely that he actually has enough power to do so.

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                  If he were to turn against them, things would very quickly look very differently.

                  How? People have spent over a decade of their lives, isolating themselves from former friends and family in their worship of the orange rapist. The sunk cost fallacy is here deep.

                  I appreciate that you’re trying to highlight the deeper fundamental problem that could lead to a repeat of this situation even when Trump is gone, but I think you’re really underselling just how much of a fucking cult Trump has cultivated, and how immensely idiotic, immoral, and hypocritical his followers are.

                  Remember that as late the 1950s, a slim majority of Germans still thought positively of Hitler.

        • Jack@slrpnk.net
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          22 days ago

          It is obviously a distraction, he didn’t pipe up attacking Venezuela or Iran for that matter.

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      22 days ago

      If you solve domestic political problems with foreign policy, then you have arrived in the middle of authoritarianism.

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      Sorry but this is not correct. He is not only trying to distract from the Epstein files. It will take years to not only build but actually prosecute a criminal case against him and he’s a billionaire. Please stop making it sound so simple when it’s so much more dangerous than that

      He wants to do big and dramatic things and truly live as the most powerful person on earth and you should take everything he says seriously until proven otherwise.

      His administration is filled with proactively violent enablers and ideologues who are not only responsible for wanting Greenland in the first place but will happily carry out his deranged orders if he thinks listening to them will make him a great historical figure

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        I am by no means referring solely to the Epstein Files. What I mean is that, with this inhuman individual at the helm, the US is now being run like a veritable mafia state, very similar to nations like Russia, for example - organized crime in the truest sense of the word. This is a change from the usual plutocracy in that it is now more unscrupulous than ever: corruption is more obvious than ever and the profits of the elites are higher than ever, which can be easily seen in the exorbitant increase in the wealth of the top one percent. Likewise, the actions against the country’s own population are obviously more illegal than ever. To distract from how hollow the US system actually is, foreign policy is being used to make a big splash, which also provides opportunities for further self-enrichment - such as the abduction of Maduro, which is completely contrary to international law and from which the president and his influential supporters are likely to benefit personally.

        The reasoning behind this seems quite simple to me, as it is a classic autocratic strategy: continuous distraction from events in one’s own country is needed. I mean, when you murder your own people as ruthlessly as this regime does, it doesn’t go down well - especially when it’s not just marginalized groups that have never had any significant influence in the US. However, in order to enable a state like Russia, which is currently pretty evident in the US I’d say, it is necessary to also eliminate resistance among intellectuals and other native American groups, i.e., among US citizens, which I thinks is likely to happen soon. This requires all the more distraction - and autocrats traditionally find this excuse in foreign policy.

        In short: I think it is likely that the elites in the US, who have ruled the country for decades, have now decided to drop the pretense and switch from a sham democracy to the Russian model.

        I consider Drump’s latest foreign policy initiatives to be preparation for this, although in my opinion the Greenland narrative is not a genuine intention, as it would be very costly for the elites, but merely a way of swearing that it does not matter who you take action against in foreign policy. It also serves to show US citizens how powerless they really are: I may be wrong, but I don’t think the majority of US citizens have any interest in starting a conflict with Europe, their long-standing ally. Nevertheless, they cannot and will not do anything about it, but are at the mercy of the regime, as evidenced by the fact that many US citizens take the chatter of their completely out-of-control head of state seriously.

  • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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    22 days ago

    this is entirely consistent with their worldview that owning something by force makes it right

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    Fun fact the medieval Norse colony of Greenland predates the migration of the Inuit to the region. This has no bearing on anything because all of those people died, left, or assimilated with the Inuit.

    But regardless the Danes have probably the third strongest claim to the land. The US has fuck all claim to the territory and I hope to see my beloved Republic freed from these profligates in DC.

    Americana Delenda Est

    California Libertatem Invicta

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    22 days ago

    This is what you voted for USAians. And there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it. Literally nothing. They’ll kill you in your cars with “absolute immunity” if you even think about it.

    Hoo rah… indeed.