• LOGIC💣@lemmy.worldEnglish
    235·
    10 months ago

    So, ICE is scared that aggressive untrained people will use deadly force against them, and that afterwards the government will do nothing about it?

    That’s pretty much how everybody else has felt about ICE for a long time.

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        5·
        10 months ago

        Not in this case.

        Give it a month, max, before somebody with either the cojones or the ovaries required to do this, does it.

        … This … this is literally how the American Revolution started, at least from one sort of way of looking at it.

        You have oppressive government forces killing and maiming enough randos long enough, eventually the randos start shooting back.

        See also: Anywhere else the US has invaded and occupied in the last, I dunno, 75 years, more than that.

      • matlag@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        With that said, if you were to end in the same situation, would the idea to actually run over an ICE agent so that he doesn’t shoot you cross your mind?

        • Warl0k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          I really fail to see how that’s relevant to the source being a satire news site.

          • matlag@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            What I mean is satire or not: they SHOULD be worried. Now people may genuinely assume that running over them is the higher survival rate option.

    • takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      17·
      10 months ago

      That pig was was recording while reaching for his gun, it looks like that video was meant as a trophy.

  • Warl0k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    98·
    10 months ago

    Guys, The Halfway Post is a satire website. “America’s #1 source for Dada news”. Lotta people eating the onion in this comment section.

    • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      23·
      10 months ago

      Mate, have you read the news in the last months, with special attention to the first days of this year? I understand it’s satire and it’s not real, but right now, people are having a really hard time to distinguish satire from real news.

      • Warl0k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        10 months ago

        One of the biggest reasons why everything sucks right now is the prevelance of misinformation online. This isn’t even trying to be misinformation, it took me literally five seconds to confirm that this is from a satire website, and yet when I posted it every other comment was engaging with this as though it were factual reporting.

        I know everything sucks right now, but we can’t start freely accepting lies as truth just because we’re tired. If we do that, we lose completely.

    • GreenShimada@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      10 months ago

      Especially when, sadly, we all know DHS will 100% get a Federal judge or SCOTUS to make this LEO-only OK and let them shoot anyone they want driving, walking, or looking towards them.

    • Rothe@piefed.socialEnglish
      4·
      10 months ago

      It reveals itself as satire when it assumed US citizens would actively fight the fascists. They are way too lethargic and complacent to ever do anything of the sort.

    • BigBenis@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      That’s because a lot of people are fucking pissed and in absence of any action by our governments and institutions in place to protect us are on the verge of taking matters into their own hands.

  • Formfiller@lemmy.worldEnglish
    64·
    10 months ago

    Breaking: ICE is afraid that Americans will start exercising their second amendment rights to protect their first and fourth amendment rights from a tyrannical pedofile protecting uncontrolled secret police

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    33·
    10 months ago

    It’s almost as if they’re projecting since they know that it’s standard practice for them to jump in front of moving vehicles so they have an excuse to open fire and claim self defense.

    They’re literally accusing people of what they have been doing for at least a decade now.

  • Destide@feddit.ukEnglish
    21·
    10 months ago

    Your constitution means nothing it seems people in power wipe their arses with it and citizens barely defend it handing over more and more freedoms every year. Ice clearly isn’t about that they sold it to you as.

  • Basic Glitch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    20·
    10 months ago

    Well yeah that’s kind of how rules and laws are supposed to work.

    That’s kind of the entire purpose of having a system of government. If a government doesn’t exist to protect the people who pay for it, what’s the point of it even existing?

    Pretty sure the people intentionally destroying the U.S. are aware of that, but it’s always kind of a head scratcher to learn the people that are carrying out their orders have been so busy goose-stepping and commiting crimes on their behalf, they haven’t really picked up on it.

    I’m really not sure why I have to explain to other adults that we all benefit as a society from a system that promotes equality and protects the majority from harm and exploitation.

    When you help these people in their never ending war on equality, you’re helping to further cement a system of government that enables exploitation and removes any expectation of protection for the majority.

    That is what you’re working towards on behalf of a billionaire class. A world where they’re protected by the system, but we’re all expendable, including you. That is what people mean when they call you class traitors. If that term offends you it’s probably because you’re not understanding or recognizing your own exploitation.

    You’ve handed over civil rights and civil liberties for the “freedom” to participate in a caste system which protects an overclass you will never be part of. Your sole purpose in the system is to help keep them propped up above the rest of society by enforcing their rules and acting as cannon fodder that serves to insulate them from the rest of the masses.

    Mudsill theory is the proposition that there must be, and always has been, a lower class or underclass for the upper classes and the rest of society to rest upon. The term derives from a mudsill, the lowest threshold that supports the foundation for a building. The theory was first articulated by James H. Hammond, a Democratic United States senator from South Carolina and a wealthy Southern plantation owner, in a speech on March 4, 1858. Hammond argued that every society must find a class of people to do menial labor, whether called slaves or not, and that assigning that status on a racial basis followed natural law, while the Northern United States’ social class of white wage laborers presented a revolutionary threat. Mudsill theory and similar rhetoric has been dubbed “the Marxism of the Master-Class” which fought for the rights of the propertied elite against what were perceived as threats from the abolitionists, lower classes and non-whites to gain higher standards of living

    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.orgEnglish
      7·
      10 months ago

      Mudsill Theory

      Sounds like Karl Marx to me, polarity reversed.

      Anyhow I like what this person had to sing about it:

      Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
      And you think you’re so clever and classless and free
      But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see

      And this one too.

  • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
    19·
    10 months ago

    This may be satire but it does really capture that casual assumption they seem to share that everyone else has the same lust for violence that they do. Most people have to be pushed pretty far to even consider violence, especially lethal violence. For them it seems like every conflict is an opportunity to violently escalate and prove their strength.

    • causepix@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      Knowing nothing about this outlet this seems more like wish casting than satire tbh. It’s just not absurd enough to be joking, other than the idea that top ICE officials would be worried about consequences.

  • Doomsider@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    10 months ago

    ICE officials worried citizens may treat them the same way they treat people. Welcome to bizarro land.

  • lepinkainen@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    10 months ago

    GOOD!

    Every American should get a gun right now just to make them afraid.

    Don’t advertise on social media, just buy it.

    Store it disassembled, but get some ammo. This way you can put it back together but they can’t claim you were armed if they come in with a no-knock warrant. Kinda hard if your pistol is in 17 separate bits in a locked case.

    What this will do is show statistics of gun ownership go up in blue states.

    • Rooster326@programming.devEnglish
      6·
      10 months ago

      Store it disassembled, but get some ammo. This way you can put it back together but they can’t claim you were armed if they come in with a no-knock warrant. Kinda hard if your pistol is in 17 separate bits in a locked case.

      Yeah don’t give them the pretext for what were already doing…

    • Malfeasant@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      10 months ago

      Would be really interesting to find out a lot of lefties in red states had guns that were off the books… Don’t look at me, I lost mine in an unfortunate boating accident.

      • lepinkainen@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        Black Panthers getting guns brought on some pretty fucking fast gun control laws

        Now imagine every LGBT person being strapped, publicly where it’s allowed. The MAGA snowflakes would be so fucking scared

    • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      Store it disassembled, but get some ammo. This way you can put it back together but they can’t claim you were armed if they come in with a no-knock warrant. Kinda hard if your pistol is in 17 separate bits in a locked case.

      If they shoot someone raiding a house I don’t know if there would be a trial at this point though. I’m not saying you should do some solo stand-your-ground thing and get yourself killed, but it doesn’t seem like it would make a difference if you even owned a gun or not as far as their legal justification, even if there was a trial they could say they feared for their life. Police have shot people sleeping in bed and gotten away with it.

      • lepinkainen@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        Police also have framed people or claimed afterward that because they owned a gun more force was required and necessary.