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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/yes-minneapolis-prosecute-ice-shooter-224628104.html
If they conclude that state law has been violated, the question is: What next? Contrary to recent assertions from some federal officials, states can prosecute federal officers for violating state criminal laws, and there is precedent for that.
Although federal officers do have immunity in some circumstances, that protection applies only if their actions were authorized under federal law and“necessary and proper” in fulfilling federal duties. When federal officers violate federal law or act unreasonably when carrying out their duties, they can face state charges.
States have a long history of prosecuting federal officials for allegedly using excessive force on the job. And when federal courts agree that the force may not have been legally justified, they have allowed the state prosecution to proceed.
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If they conclude that state law has been violated
I’m not an expert in Minnesota law, but I am pretty sure murder is illegal there.
Yep. I just looked it up.
Also, from what I saw she was complying with the commands to clear the road.
Not that brownshirts would realize why that’s a stupid game to play.
This is what they do, throw multiple conflicting orders at you and when you don’t follow one of them you get shot in the face.
Guess it’s better to just run over then and sort it out later.
Your right. We know what to do now. Leave the car and run.
And when federal courts agree that the force may not have been legally justified, they have allowed the state prosecution to proceed.
Ah, see, here’s their loophole. They’ll just get the SCOTUS to say that states cant prosecute federal officers.
I’m just waiting for the “daddy trump is allowed to do everything and anything he wants and no one can stop him” ruling.
They so clearly want to do it, just tear off the bandaid so we can get this show started. I hate sounding like an accelerationist but this slow fade into full fascism is convincing enough for libs to think were we’re just in a bit of a rough patch, and not that the liberal democracy era of America is over and dead.
Agreed, like boiling a frog. Rip the bandaid off and let’s get those guillotines out. We’re either going to zero or we’re ending up with heroes.
They have to claim the force was legally justified. They have to say out loud that it’s ok to walk up to a car just trying to get out of the way, stick your gun through the window against the side of someone’s head and murder them.
The most horrifying part of that video for me is just how calm everyone is. No one is in danger, no one is at risk, there’s not some “fog of war”, it’s just a masked gunman calmly walking up em to a citizen and straight up murdering them, then calmly walking away.
Former U.S. Attorney Tom Heffelfinger explained that both the U.S. Attorney in Minneapolis and the Hennepin County Attorney could investigate the case. However, it would have to be determined that the agent’s actions were “unreasonable” before any action can be taken.
“There is no burden on the federal agent to prove anything,” said Heffelfinger, who was the U.S. Attorney for Minnesota from 1991 to 1993 and from 2001 to 2006. “It’s a criminal case; therefore, the burden of proof is on the prosecutors.”
Well, yeah but that’s always the case. That’s like saying it’s the offense’s job to move the ball down the field.
They mentioned a Ruby Ridge case where the sniper who killed some people was tried in state court. It was approved by the State (appeals? supreme? not sure) court to go ahead, but even that took a couple of years.
Democrats could represent us. Could…
I highly doubt they will.
They won’t, and he will anyway.
So Americans still believe cops can go to jail for shooting people? This explains why the law never changes. You can’t fix a problem if you don’t know it exists.
16 year sentence ain’t nothing.
But sure, everyone who doesn’t live here knows all about living here. As usual.
Yes, there was also an office convicted for shooting a guy that was sitting on a couch, in his own apartment, eating ice cream. There are shootings and then there are shootings. Can you find an example when officer was convicted for shooting someone driving a car in his direction?
You mean you want to state a new misrepresentation then have me research support against it?
No.
Ok, forget about the car. Take the shooting of Daniel Shaver. There was a body cam footage and he was shot while crawling on his arms and knees on the floor, unarmed. He was shoot because he got confused by conflicting orders shouted a him by two cops and for a second looked behind him. The cop was found not guilty by the jury. Philando Castile was shot when reaching for his documents after he was told by the cop to get his documents - acquitted by the jury. Yes, in some cases when the shooting is absolutely out of this world outrageous the cop will get convicted. If there’s a tiniest sliver of justification (he was holding a sandwich, he reached for something, she moved) it’s pretty much impossible to convict a cop in US. In this case there’s way more than enough to acquit the ICE agent.
Adding more words to your stupid does not make it smarter.
considering that’s not what happened
Oooh you touched a nerve. Good job. I upvoted you for speaking the truth.
Lots of delusion around here recently. People really believe Trump will resign because of Epstein files, AOC will be the next president and all ICE agents will end up in jail.
Indeed, if everyone believed like you, the whole world would be under British colonial rule.
More like the Roman Empire would still rule the world and we would live 1000 years in the future.
