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This is why I focused on graphics hardware for so long… Then some arsehole came up with running AI on GPUs.
series of increasingly large dominoes where the smallest is “NVIDIA releases CUDA” and the largest is “the entire global economy has become dependent on running a useless computer program that tricks stupid people into believing it can do anything worthwhile”
The groomers in the MIC have claimed soooo many kids who just wanted to make video games. Gross and sad.
I may be an engineer, but I am still too fucking stupid to get a job at an arms company
It’s easier than you’d think. The applicant pool doesn’t tend to be the best and brightest.
I just use my skills to make gooner games. My soul is pure. To heaven I shall go. Unironically.
Thank you for your service.
Here’s a great idea: let’s not produce any weapons and disarm unilaterally. What could go wrong?
Who is “us”?
The good guys. Define them as you like.
How about we split the difference and only cut two thirds of all military spending? We would still be pouring more money into it than any country on earth.
There will still be people working for arms companies. All of them will deserve hell?
If we cut back that much, then we wouldn’t be able to fuel nearly as much death and destruction around the globe. But, not to worry, I’m sure we could still find enough evil to do to both satisfy your desire for blood and to earn the people responsible a cozy little spot in Hell, yes.
Where did you get my desire for blood from? All I’m saying is that the same arms companies make weapons that fall in Gaza and that protect Europe. You can’t have one but not the other. It’s up to politicians to decide how to use those weapons, not engineers.
It’s up to politicians to decide how to use those weapons, not engineers.
Exactly how far does this extend? Because a lot of people involved in supporting the Nazi war effort said the exact same thing.
If you go around solving every problem you’re asked to with no concern for who’s asking or why, that’s how you wind up developing Zyklon B.
Giving a gun to a murderer is the same as pulling the trigger. Giving artillery to a murderer is too.
Engineers are rich, right? So let’s blame the working class in this one particular case. /s
Yea I’m an LGBTQ+ ally:
The ally they’re talking about:
L ockheed Martin
G eneral Dynamics
B AE
T exas Instruments
Q inetiq
“our hiring system is even less discriminatory than our targeting system!” -their motto, probably
"our hiring system is even less discriminatory than our targeting system!" -their motto, probably
Bravo!
People talking about morality when space Jesus explicitly told us to EXTERMINATE all the XENOS
Raytheon would be equally accepted here.
Hey! Thanks bro. I’ll be nice and cool by my pond. Im Canadian and I was working for a US defence contractor. I was in their industrial sector and worked in Europe, never touched a defence product and wouldn’t be allowed to. But every time the quarterly numbers came out and number went up. I couldn’t help but feel responsible for steering them profits.
I’m unemployed and the happiest I’ve ever been
Doing engineering is more like an any% run to do something that eventually, even just statistically, hurts people.
So. Stop enabling us, scientists :P
This is part of the reason I moved to CA. As an engineer I’m always going to have some kind of environmental impact, and I think a direct initiative is necessary for the public to consent.
This comment is known to the state of California to cause birth defects.
Lots of people are better off for science, it’s the capitalists that ask us to wield it against others
No. That evil has nothing to do with whichever socio-economic system is your particular choice of boogie man.
Weapons can be used for defense or offense. Just be sure that you can sleep at night with the potential consequences - and that your work may be used on the wrong side just as easily as the right side.
On the other hand, if you’re working for an Israeli defense company, you can be pretty certain where your results are going to go, and should maybe just… not.
If you’re working for a western arms manufacturer you can be pretty certain your products will end up in Israel too.
How many Eurofighters does Israel operate?
Why would that matter? You think it’s alright to work for a company supplying the Palestinian genocide as long as you’re not working on that specific product line? British aerospace is pretty directly involved there so I’d set my standards a little higher personally.
You could’ve just said “yes, I think that’s where the ethical line is”, instead of linking logical fallacies wikipedia like a fourteen year old atheist.
We haven’t moved anywhere. We were at “working for companies profiting from genocide is wrong” and we’ve started right there.
You could’ve just said “yes, I think that’s where the ethical line is”, instead of linking logical fallacies wikipedia like a fourteen year old atheist.
Except what I’m pointing out is not where I think the ethical line is, I’m pointing out that you’re arguing in blatant bad faith because you know your actual position isn’t defensible.
We haven’t moved anywhere.
This you?
If you’re working for a western arms manufacturer you can be pretty certain your products will end up in Israel too.
Sorry that you can’t remember what you said a whole comment ago.
We were at “working for companies profiting from genocide is wrong” and we’ve started right there.
So what you mean is “If you’re working for a major Western company, period, you’re in the wrong.” Since the list of Western companies that don’t do business with Israel is very small.
This you?
If you’re working for a western arms manufacturer you can be pretty certain your products will end up in Israel too.
Yes, that’s me. Maybe the bit you’re missing is that if you work at a company, the company’s products are your products.
So what you mean is “If you’re working for a major Western company, period, you’re in the wrong.” Since the list of Western companies that don’t do business with Israel is very small.
No, that’s not what I mean, and I’d appreciate you not putting words in my mouth. There is a material difference between providing Israel with military equipment and with some random consumer product that is just distributed everywhere. Sure, I’d argue it’s still wrong to do the latter, but it’s still a huge difference.
Sounds like something an architect would say…
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