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    Every single Dem politician should be screaming about this at the top of their lungs. This is a direct threat to them as well, but they’re not gonna do it.

    Why?

    Because AIPAC and their billionaire donors are telling them to stand down.

    Establishment Dems put more effort into resisting Mamdani than they put into resisting Trump since 2016.

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      Can you share some source for this aipac claim? I mean, fuck aipac, but I just want to make sure we don’t go down the shouting about the evil Jewish billionaires controlling everything route.

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        Cuomo is one of war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu’s legal defense team members. He has worked tirelessly on behalf of AIPAC for years.

        Regardless, AIPAC gets all its special favors for terrorist state Israel by complete regulatory capture in the US. It’s how they’ve convinced Americans to give up their own constitutional right to free speech - if you criticize Israel too harshly, American gestapo will arrest you.

        So, of course they consider Mamdani an existential threat. Once voters realize socialist policies help them in a tangible way instead of further funneling money to billionaires like Miriam Adelson, there is going to be a political reckoning resulting in AIPAC having no power and Israel being left to fend for itself without US intervention. They’re terrified of this scenario.

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        There’s no “source”, AIPAC deals directly with politicians and those discussions are not public. But we know that AIPAC gives lots of money to Democrats to the point that they can and have dictated policy, and we know that AIPAC’s spokesperson has been on national news shows specifically to fearmonger about Mamdani both before and after the election. Most direct source here is gonna be using your noggin.

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        I think if you don’t know the roll AIPAC has played in modern politics, it’s on you to go get a baseline education. It s not something some one should have to educate you on in a short form post. They’ve played a transformative role in US politics and are practicing why we can’t have nice things as a country.

        I’m not saying the interest isn’t valid, but I also feel like understanding AIPAC is table stakes in US politics

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          I’m not saying the influence of AIPAC isn’t important, but I feel like being a patronizing twat instead of seizing a moment to help educate someone on the topic isn’t a great way to welcome people to the cause.

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            To be fair, he WAS being a patronizing twat to a patronizing twat who was hinting that any criticism of AIPAC might be antisemitic like the Dem leadership keeps doing every time anyone criticizes their favorite fascist apartheid regime.

            Also, politeness or lack of same aside, AIPAC IS big and influential enough that there’s no excuse to not know about them when discussing American politics and prejudice against Muslim politicians.

            It’s the equivalent of never having heard of Citizens United, the Heritage Foundation, or the Federalist Society.

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              Exactly and I’m not even saying that it’s not ok to be interested, just that, like if you don’t know who or what AIPAC is coming into a political discussion forum, this ain’t the place to start.

              Like you couldn’t have gotten through 2023-2025 being even adjacent to politics and not have developed some understanding of the role in US politics.

              And, honestly, it’s hard to evaluate how important AIPAc really is to US politics. We readily acknowledge things like the Heritage foundation or project for a new American century, but we rarely discuss what interests are have idealogically captured the Democratic party.

              I’m trying to find the exact quote, because I heard it referenced on a podcast and I’m not sure Schumer actually said this, but the circumstantial evidence is strong, that Schumer specifically did not endorse Mamdani because he sees his primary role as serving Israel. I want to dig into this more later because that’s an astonishing admission if true.

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      They are the same group of billionaires. Just with different T-shirts to perform for the poor

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    Nazis did that to the Jews. First they’d torment them (check), then they’d strip them of their citizenship (almost there), then they’d “deport” them to camps (we got those, so check), then they’d exterminate them with Zyklon B (we’re not there yet, but soon).

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    I’m actually surprised there was no widespread attempt to claim Kamala Harris wasn’t a citizen like there was with Obama

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      They were still campaigning against Biden. No doubt that would have come up if we had a 2 year campaign for her

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      There’s a hidden division in your question, whether intentional or not. “Can” they do that. Do you mean “are they legally allowed to do that”, or “do they have the power to do that”?
      In the former, no. In the later, possibly, yes.

    • There’s a lot of shenanigans they could do within the law (not even mentioning the stuff they could do outside of the law):

      If they “find” evidence of any crime committed before his oath ceremony, yes, it’s possible. Within 5 years of naturalization, if they “find” evidence of “terrorist” or “communist” associations, yes.

      Also, denaturalization is not done in a criminal court, it’s a civil trial, below the “beyond reasonable doubt” standard of proof that a criminal trial would require. I’m not sure if a jury is even required.

      Just an example: If they find a video of him smoking weed an hour before his oath ceremony, technically that could be used against him, marijuana is still illegal under the controlled substance act. Not sure how that would practically play out in court tho.

      I’m actually kinda worried for myself. I have no idea exactly how clean/by-the-books my parent’s tax records are or if their taxes are even done correctly, if they did anything shady, and if it happened before my mom got citizenship, she could lose citizenship and I would lose it too. So… yea… no wonder why I can’t sleep these days.

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        Or they could extend the definition of “terrorist” enough that pretty much anyone they want to target will qualify. And who would defend a terrorist?

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      Neither. Even their supporters aren’t this stupid. The politicians are lying, and their supporters are lying to us about being that stupid. They are literally fascists who are taking advantage of the benefit of the doubt extended by merely stupid people.

      2025 Republicans are not adequately explained by stupidity - it is malice.

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    If it weren’t for peak desperation and hatred the GOP wouldn’t have anything. Except pedophiles that is