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      Honestly, this is arguably the most significant thing for America for the night. Countering Texas’ Gerrymander is big, but it’s not as sexy of a story.

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        Yeah, I agree, that is also very important. But I still think that getting rid of Pelosi and the other ghouls in the DNC would/could be the most important thing right now. The Democratic Party desperately needs a renewal, a progressive reform and to embrace real left-wing, socialist politics to save the middle class from sliding down and help poor people to break out - as opposed to give in to every wish and whim of billionaire oligarchs who are stealing literally all wealth from the rest of society.

        The whole ‘let’s follow the republicans further and further to the right to grab the centrist’s votes’ idea clearly is not working. It is not making peoples’ lives better (except for the oligarchs). And it is not even helping democrats win elections and secure power any more.

        Appeasement didn’t work against the nazis, why would it work against MAGA?

        But unfortunately Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries and the rest of these cronies are all absolutely hellbent on keeping up with the appeasement. They all need to retire or get primaried, or the US is lost to fascism for who knows how many decades.

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        I find it very interesting that it was put up to a vote in California. In Texas, the legislators just took it upon themselves to cheat. “Going high” is going to bite the dems in the ass eventually, though.

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          Texas doesn’t allow for citizens to gather signatures to put something directly on the ballot. The politicians control everything.

          CA citizens used a citizen-led ballot initiative to take the redistricting keys away from the legislature. Stuff like this has to go before voters in CA.

          The people are more in control in CA.

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          “Going high”, in this case referring to using democratic principles to govern? That’s not going high, that’s how the system is supposed to work.

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              No, they are cheating, just with the blessing of the public. Like gerrymandering isn’t a thing you should be able to do, fullstop, but it isn’t something normally possible to do in California.

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                Working within a broken system isn’t cheating though. Cheating means you’re breaking the rules.

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                  Yes, there’s a California rule that states that redistricting is done by a non-partisan commission. This explicitly sidesteps that process. They’re breaking a rule with permission but they’re still breaking a rule.

                  If your DM rules that you can have two actions in a turn without reason, it’s still cheating.

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          It HAD to go before a vote in Cali. We didn’t have a choice politically since our independent election map commission is enshrined into the state constitution. In Texas they don’t have anything remotely enshrined into their constitution so for us here in Cali we had to put it to the people and even then it’s sorta weak since it has an exact end date in 2030. It’s only here for one cycle before it falls off and goes back. Which could be dangerous if the other states don’t stop gerrymandering.

          That or we’ll just leave next time.

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            It’s preferable that it has an end date since it’s intentionally cheating the system for the greater good. I’d rather have it keep going up for a vote every 5 years so we can choose to put it back as needed.

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      I am glad that this passed in California, but this whole thing makes me feel terrible for the outlook of the country. I’ve been interested in counter-gerrymandering and alternative voting methods like ranked choice voting for a while now. I had loved seeing some states like California and Colorado taking steps to better elections.

      But of course, having better and better elections in blue states just allowed red states to have worse and worse elections to seize control at a national level. I don’t know how you fix this problem, other than to do what California did and beat them at their own game. I don’t see a constitutional amendment being passed to help any time soon.

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        allowed red states to have worse and worse elections to cease control at a national level

        If only they’d cease 🥲

        Americans, I highly encourage you to do everything you can to seize the means of federal elections, and put it in the hands of an independent federal electoral commission, instead of the nonsense state administration you currently have.

        Maybe one day you’ll have a voting system as good as ours (one point we are very proud of).

        Love from Australia

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            Technically they could fine you up to 1 Penalty Unit ($330 at time of writing).

            But they just give you a $20 “administrative penalty” so they don’t have to litigate.

            https://www.aec.gov.au/Elections/non-voters.htm

            Turnout is very high every election, and we don’t need to waste political messaging airspace on “get out the vote”, so this part of our political system seems to be working well (capitalism and neoliberalism being a bane to our existence notwithstanding).

            Side note, “get out the vote” is a weird sentence.

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          Americans, I highly encourage you to do everything you can to seize the means of federal elections

          Seizing other things, like the means of production would also be pretty nifty.

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    Tbf, Nancy didn’t announce her retirement. The voters finally did it for her.

    Schumer needs to be next and Jeffries can join him for early bird specials and get the hell out of politics - this is a serious time and you have nothing to meet this moment.

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      Yes, Schumer next please.

      I think Jeffries is a good rep but bad leader. He doesn’t need to retire, just let someone else take the leadership role.

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        Jeffries voting record on Israel is not good

        On 4/20/2024 he voted yes on H.R.8034 to give $26.38 Billion in Additional Weapons “Aid” to Israel

        9/23/2021 he voted yes on H.R. 5323 to give the Israeli government $1 billion more for their Iron Dome military system

        7/23/2019 he didn’t vote on H.Res. 246, which passed - H.Res. 246 - Opposing Global Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions Movement targeting Israel

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    I really dislike the fact that this pos has a meme format. His wife literally works for pedonald on destroying the education system.

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    Dick Cheney was among the worst in an administration that disrespected human rights, international law, honesty, trustworthiness and set the US reputation as well as the fight against global warming way back.

    Usually, that probably would have been my last thought of him.

    Except, we have this crazy timeline. This timeline, in which he was able to stand out just by pointing out that he is still in favour of free elections. At least that was still a given in his time, even though the decision about the loss of Al Gore was considered controversial by some back then.

    A low bar, a low bar indeed. But here we go, on this positive note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Nq9SpGzic

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    I wish this news made me happier. It ought to but all it reminds me is that in 2032 people will probably vote in mecha-hitler Grok Musk for US president because Americans have the collective memory of a goldfish.

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    An old San Francisco Bay Area emmigrant, I hadn’t heard about Pelosi. That’s such good news.

    I really expected someone would have to pry her office titles from her cold dead hands the way we had to with Feinstein.

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    Spanberger is ex-CIA, and a party selected candidate (she went through no primary). Expect no substantial changes.

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      That’s why I’ve put her only on second place from the top. It’s a nice thing that she’s flipped a seat, but it’s not gonna start a reform of the party. The reform is gonna come from Mamdani’s win and Pelosi’s retirement.

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      The dutch had an election last week and seemed to shift from extreme right to more middle ground parties, with “dutch trump” losing his majority and two center parties gaining loads of votes. Now they just need to find a way to form a working government with 4 (or even 5) different political parties needed for a majority.

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    Let’s hope every time one of the old shriveled turds kicks it things like this happen.