Congressional Democrats are marching in lockstep into the fourth week of a government shutdown, even as lawmakers brace for what could be the most painful point yet — a cutoff in federal food aid for more than 40 million people.
But Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries are signaling that there will be no change in strategy: Democrats won’t provide the votes to reopen the government unless their demands over health care are met. And they’re increasingly hammering President Donald Trump for his failure to sit down to negotiate with Democrats, while instead embarking on his second foreign trip so far during the shutdown.
“This is all Trump,” a visibly frustrated Sen. Peter Welch of Vermont told CNN. “Trump’s not engaged. Republicans won’t negotiate,” Welch said, arguing that Trump’s trip to Asia this week as “an indication of how he could care less.”
Fascist republicans control all levels of government but it’s the Democrats fault? Please.
I mean this is pretty simple for Democrats.
Americans decided to tell Democrats to go fuck themselves after Biden had a legislatively successful presidency in which he tried (and in many cases succeeded) to pass a ton of legislation to help Americans. Not to mention all the historical data proving how much better Democrats are for average Americans than Republicans.
It was a slap in the face from the ignorant American electorate.
So now Democrats just have to sit back and let Americans find out what happens when they abandon Democrats and put all their eggs in the Republican basket. Let them suffer until they learn the error of their ways…or don’t. Cuz this is America and it’s pretty stupid so there may not be any lessons learned.
They really don’t have to do anything. And shouldn’t.
People are civil
Americans are and have been, considering what happened over the past year, extremely civil
I wonder what will be left of said civility once 42 million of them have missed two meals in a row…
They’d attack their neighbors unfortunately
Keep it shut down until we start striking and rioting
Yup.
It’s inevitable anyway. Let’s just cut to the chase. No sense putting band-aids on it and putting it off for a little while. System will still be inherently broken and eventually lead to strikes/riots anyway. Might as well get 'er started.
Isn’t Donvict off in Asia doing the double-jerkoff dance?
Seriously, I wish the Democrats were running ads showing the contrast - show the food banks running out of food, while this asshole tells everyone he is focused on destroying the east wing so he can put in a fucking ballroom and flitting off to Asia to dance the night away.
I don’t get why like most of the rest of the world this doesn’t cause an election. America needs some modernization to it’s rules so that a king can’t happen again. But it won’t if the dems get in they’ll say some pretty words about healing and won’t change anything.
Federal elections here are on a set schedule, there’s no concept of a “snap” election here. The closest thing is if a Congressional seat goes vacant, they need to schedule a special election just for that seat before it can be filled.
In theory, we prevent kings here by allocating distinct powers to distinct branches of government. The problem occurs when those branches stop using the oversight powers the Constitution gives them. The American President can rule like a king – if Congress and the Courts let him.
But it won’t if the dems get in they’ll say some pretty words about healing and won’t change anything.
You’re confusing the small neoliberal faction with the whole party…
Something billionaires put a lot of money into. Them and the media conglomerates they own would rather depress Dem turnout and lose the general, because a neoliberal can’t win the fair primary we’ll have next time.
I know it’s probably not intentional, but please stop spreading neoliberal propaganda.
Now is the time to be pushing people to vote in the next Dem primaries, not pretending that it’s hopeless. Depressed turnout is the only way billionaires get someone they want like Newsom or Pritzker, and if they go on to win the general, they’ll appoint a biased neoliberal to chair the DNC again.
Please pay attention, we can’t afford widespread ignorance in the face of fascism
“Look forward, not backwards…yadda yadda something about Marquess of Queensbury rules…”
Meanwhile, the conservatives are building a machine to not only punch below the belt, but to crush the testicles of their enemies to dust in violation of all the rules. The media, “centrists” and not a few “leftists”, pointing at both of them: “see! both sides!”
I don’t think this take is fully thought out.
Their system is monumentally slow.
For important decisions, they need a super majority in the senate and a majority in the house, and the presidency, and then they need to word it extremely carefully to not have it monkeys paw’d by the supreme Court.
They haven’t had an actionable super majority for over a quarter century.
The reason they appear not to do much is because without bipartisan support or all the things I just mentioned they can basically only change how money is spent and taxes (only sorta IIRC).
Basically, your comment hurts everyone by encouraging voter apathy due to pushing ideas that aren’t compatible with the reality of their slow system.
Is the DNC filled with center right people who love a lot of the bad things in place? Yes.
Are there still absolutely positive changes they would make given the opportunity? Also yes.
Is it possible to change the party through primaries and local politics? Also yes.
Anyhow, my point is, it needs to be considered the system they’re working in before loose accusations are thrown at them.
Finally, we here in Canada could literally have proportional representation right now, giving everyone’s vote equal weighting and giving us true choice and increased leverage over politicians, but we don’t, despite having a majority liberal government and so what I am saying, is having the supposed left leaning party win (or in their case less right), still doesn’t garunteed results, but it does garunteed you won’t ramp up the very real discrimination and crony corruption like you see when right wing governments win.
It matters, even if choices are mid is the point.
Not passing a budget doesn’t cause elections anywhere. Modern democracies have solutions to keep government running without a new budget (some sort of default minimal budget or just previous budget begin prolonged). What causes elections are non-confidence votes. Those are usually lost when coalitions collapse and ruling party can’t secure 50% of votes anymore.
In Canada, budget votes are always confidence votes. If a budget vote fails, the government is defeated, and the governor general gives the next largest party a chance to form government, and then the next, and so on (in practice, this never happens). Then an election is called
Of course, the false premise here is that the English language is logical
People are about to starve and this guy is out here arguing grammar.
That’s a good point. But also “I could care less” is WRONG, so…
I get it. There’s a lot of misused phrases that frustrate me too. “Irregardless”, “Hold the fort.” “All intensive purposes.” “We have the Epstein Files” “There are no Epstein files.” “There are Epstein files, but it’s only Democrats in them.” “You can’t have the Epstein files.”
Yes those are all the worst things possible
You probably also think you say Gif the right way!
Just let it all burn.
I’m still confused about why the democrats are actually doing the right thing here
Because what do they have to lose? Johnson is ramming every negative policy through with every legitimate and dirty method out there. The basic government institutions that support our society are being dismantled or sold off to the highest oligarch with crony capitalism. Open corruption by trump in pardoning obvious unapologetic criminals that promise trump fealty or lick the boot. trump is literally tearing down the White House (thats something we only allow Canada to do historically). Johnson refuses to seat a Democratically elected Democrat representative for over a month.
What do Democratic lawmakers have to lose at this point?
Because the Republicans control all 3 branches of government. The The Republicans say they dont have the money to pay all the government workers, while they have been on paid vacation for over a month, and gave Argentina 40billion dollars because Trumps wall street buddies have investments there… And… Little Johnson doesn’t want to seat an elected House Representative because she will tip the vote to release the Epstein Files… And then there’s health care…take your pick… Those are the facts… And here is my opinion… This is what happens when you give a bunch of morons control of a government… Billionaires… Rich, Racist, Bigots, led by a butt-hurt felon, pedophile wannabe-dictator…
Because even rich people are losing money under Trump.
No, just the progressive ones who invested in renewables. Sucks to live in a Petro state.
