This is the conservative version of America.
Starting to think maybe everyone should have shown up and voted in the most likely way to prevent conservatives from having power. I know that’s a lot to ask from Americans.
But voting for Kamala would be bad for Palestine! Not voting was the only way to save Palestine! /s
“I disagreed with Kamala on a single issue involving two nations on the opposite side of the planet, so I didn’t vote for her and held the door open for fascists instead.”
Yeah, not a bright bunch.
EDIT: Looks like 10 people so far have self identified as these dim bulbs. These are the people we need to worry about come 2026 and 2028. They’re going to make the same mistake again, because learning isn’t in their wheelhouse.
So very well said.
Some of them are still around here and have the fucking balls to pop up here and chastise people they have derisively labeled “liberals”. They think they have the moral high ground. Even now. And, if it sadly comes to it, when everyone is being put into FEMA camps, I doubt they will admit their wrongdoing and will instead lecture people on things like “don’t blame the voters”. FFS. It’s bonkers.
I know a few of this type IRL, too, unfortunately. No self awareness and no apologies. I think it’s mostly narcissism, really. The ones online are possibly paid actors/bots put there to sow division.
Oh yeah. I know a few IRL as well. Like talking to a brick wall. These are people that want their fantasy scenario to become reality but don’t grasp the actual reality we live in and also aren’t willing to put in the hard work to make their fantasy a reality.
It’s sad and these are the main people we have to worry about in the coming elections. We know we don’t have to spend time trying to convince Trump supporters. They’re cultists and they aren’t changing. But to see these people who generally want the same things we want, but are completely out to lunch regarding how to achieve those things is just really depressing.
I’m crossing my fingers that things get so bad in the U.S. that these people wake up and do the right thing, at least for 2026 and 2028, but I’m not holding my breath.
I’m not going to say I’m happy about her non-stance re: Palestine, but also, fuck anyone who didn’t vote for her and allowed literal fascism.
Theoretically, the argument would have been “Then vote in the primaries”. Problem being, a lot of people have been betrayed on Democratic primaries. Bernie Sanders was shown as popular before, and they still nixed him as an option. People largely agreed Joe Biden was too old to run, and yet he was way too late to offer up Kamala as an option; skipping past any primary that would have given people other choices.
People want to demonstrate “their choice” is popular, and the Democrats have taken away that choice pretty consistently. To me, it’s not enough to surrender a vote to fascism, but I think I understand the feeling.
Less bad than Trump, but non-voters don’t want to hear that.
Neither do the Jill Stein types.
Jill Stein voters make my blood boil.
She magically appears right before elections, gets absolutely crushed while taking votes away from the Democrats, then disappears again. She does not care. She is not trying to make a viable 3rd party. She got half of a single percent of the total votes cast.
Anyone that voted Stein in the last election is not a very intelligent person.
Yeah, they definitely annoy me as well. It’d be one thing if they were sort of daffy and later admitted what they did was shortsighted, selfish and/or stupid. But as a general rule, I don’t see them owning up to it.
Just being super-sanctimonious about how pure they think they are for their vote and their continued bothsiderist bullshit that helps no one and does nothing to move things forward. Equally as bad are the ones that sat out elections for similar performative “morality”. The accelerationist types are even worse than both of those two - the ones that go out of their way to vote for Republicans in the hope of watching everything burn down so it can be started over using their utopian ideals as a template.
ROTFLMAO - as if that is going to happen.
Reminder people: food banks exist with or without politics and whether or not federal workers get paid. They are essential to the survival of many people and families and are almost entirely privately run and maintained by volunteers.
If you want to make a very real difference in the lives of others, find where one is and bring them some things like socks, soap, toothbrushes and underwear, as well as canned meats or soups. It WILL get used and appreciated and it feels a lot better than you think it will knowing you fed a family or helped someone feel like a human again by giving them fresh socks to wear to work tomorrow. (A vast majority of people below the poverty line in the US are working and living in cars or tents.)
It’s even better to just give them money because they can get better bulk deals than you.
Absolutely true, but in my experience I’ve gotten people to donate goods more easily than socks and canned food. It’s a psychological thing in humans. I feel our population is so cynical that they assume any cash they hand over goes right into drugs and gambling. My dad was the kind of person who would buy you a new dishwashing machine after he learns you’re behind on house payments, and keep the receipt so you can’t return it.
If you don’t have reservations about donating cash to food banks, then it’s always going to do more good.
The most important thing you can donate is money. The second most important thing you can donate is probably diapers, they LOVE diapers.
Food riots were one of the key factors that kicked off the French Revolution
In a civilized country these things simply wouldn’t happen.
Not paying an employee is simply illegal, and If what is happening in USA now happened here, we have public funds guaranteeing any unpaid employee by any employer get their money. Usually used for private companies that go bankrupt.USA is such a shitty country, their regulation is of the caliber that would only be expected of a very poor developing country that lack resources to do better.
I don’t think most Americans are even close to understanding how shitty USA is as a country. It permeates everything because Americans accept their society to be shitty, because they kind of accept a minimal government that doesn’t even work.
Having a country with a two party system that begs for stalemates, and then is incapable of handling a stalemate is such tremendous lack of foresight, I bet most kindergartens are run better.
Not paying an employee is simply illegal, and If what is happening in USA now happened here, we have public funds guaranteeing any unpaid employee by any employer get their money. Usually used for private companies that go bankrupt.
Laws in most civilized countries simply say that if new budget is not passed in time the previous budget continues or default budget covering basic expenses (like federal workers salaries, bills etc.) is automatically created. Shutting down government is simply not an option.
True, I have not heard of other countries that do what USA is doing with the shutdown.
Americans are such a bunch of amateurs on democracy, despite they were among the first to use it!
Or maybe because of it? They sorely need a major reform of their democracy. But it looks like it will probably be the wrong way to an even more authoritarian system.The problem is that they were “early adopters” and created a system impossible to reform. Civil war was the perfect moment to do a major rewrite of the system. They had a human rights issue and their system proved completely unable to resolve it. Unfortunately instead of realizing it’s broken and fixing it they did some minor changes and moved on. Now they have a constitution that is more of a holy book than legal document. No one understands it, the laws don’t mean anything but it’s sacred so it’s impossible to even talk about changing it.
I think they can’t because their constitution is a holy text from the heavens and therefore cannot be trashed (or archived) and rewritten from scratch.
It literally has amendments. The latest one was ratified in 1992. The founding fathers considered the constitution to be a living document, hence why there is an amendment process.
Ironically, the people treating the constitution like gospel are the same people that keep ignoring it.
The same founding fathers that apparently thought it was a document that would probably be replaced after a few decades? (Or is this something everyone says that has no basis in reality? )
Maybe? I don’t recall them suggesting that it should be replaced every few decades.
Worth pointing out that there is a process in the constitution for changing the constitution, but there is no process for replacing the entire document. So I’d say there is pretty obvious intent for the document to change/evolve over time.
Hypothetically, we could amend the constitution to have a process for replacing the whole document though.
Yep, if a parliament fails to pass budget “Supply” legislation in Australia there’s an automatic procedure that desolves the government and sends them to an election.
And the public hate elections. Do it to them out of sequence without good reason? You’re not getting back in.
And I guess all the ministers lose their seats, that would also be motivation to get it done.
I don’t think most Americans are even close to understanding how shitty USA is as a country.
They’re brainwashed from birth to believe they’re the greatest country in the world. Most of them never question it. Those that do need years to overcome the beliefs embedded in their heads.
Yes American exceptionalism is pretty crazy.
The arrogance of calling a national championship “World Series” is a very clear example of that, and also calling the country America is another blatant example of exceptionalism.
It is this exceptionalism that makes Trump believe he can bully the rest of the world into submission. But all it will do is accelerate the fall of USA from being the de facto world leader.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Series_champions
The US lacks the resources to do better because the vast majority of its wealth is being hoarded by dragons. The peasants get moldy bread.
I don’t have to know where you live to say that you’re trending this direction too. If you’re not vigilant you’ll find yourself in the same position before too long.
That is only true to a minor degree regarding immigrants, we are not on the way to become an authoritarian hellhole, and our democracy is in no way threatened. We do not have a single anti democratic party in parliament among the 12 parties represented here, and we do not have the systemic problems or extremism USA has.
Saying we (Denmark) are heading in the same direction is a false equivalence. Saying it about EU is false too, although there are right wing tendencies in some regions, I am pretty sure they are temporary. For instance even if AfD should become the biggest party in Germany, they can never form a government alone (government is comparable to the US administration), except the checks and balances by parliament are way stronger.
By far the most EU democracies are way way stronger than USA, because they are not built undemocratically to be 2 party systems like USA and UK.
This is the system republicans created and democrats cosigned. Republicans could at any moment dismiss the fillibuster and return these people to work but they’ve decided to let this happen to try and use media asymmetries to blame it on democrats in hopes they cave without negotiations.
Hopefully the democrats realize if they cave here they will never be elected again. Republicans will keep doing this until either they eliminate the fillibuster or they start caring about rules and the country so it makes sense for democrats to just hold the line and force some more permanent change in either republicans or the rules.
Hey I’ll have you know as an American our kindergartens are run terribly as well, at least in poor school districts.
Sorry, my bad. 😋
Well, if you have some other options you’d like to throw out there…
Scandinavian model.
We don’t have a “minimal government” because we still pay just as much in taxes and healthcare costs as everyone else. We just don’t see any benefits from that money, it all gets funneled to the oligarchs.
Remember how socialism is bad because bread lines?
Look at that line. America is great again, everyone.
just like the roaring 20s!
It’s wild that long lines for food banks only make the news when middle-class white people have to be the ones standing there.
They had Hoovervilles in the 20s…2025: Mar-a-Lunch-a?
Tacovilles?
How many voted for Trump?
They’re joining the Federal Workers who were fired this past winter then?
Is there a map of federal workers?
Not anymore, they haven’t been federal workers for 3 weeks now.
