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“Bricked” in the title feels a bit of a clickbait. In my interpretation if something is bricked, it won’t just start working again after a few hours.
RIP my precious HTC Desire…
like when an escalator breaks; its just stairs now.
(rip mitch)
HTC had quite a run there. I still miss my HTC One X, back when it was actually interesting to get a new phone. These days I routinely forget which iPhone it is that I have.
Why the fuck does a bed need a subscription, and why the fuck does it need to be cloud based.
Fuck that garbage, for the price just buy a fuckin used hospital bed.
It doesn’t need one. Sleep Eight decided to make it that way.
I’ve been having a lot of trouble with sleep lately, and it’s really impacting my work and life. Apart from working with my Dr I was seriously considering ponying up the big bucks for a Sleep Eight until I found that literally all of it’s features rely on the cloud, and a monthly subscription, for no legitimate reason whatsoever.
Look, I’m for subscriptions when they make sense. Have a service that requires a lot of infrastructure? Subscription. Something that needs continuous dev work? Subscription. All I ask is that the subscription be kept low so that it’s affordable and everyone can be happy. But that’s not how it goes. Two things end up happening:
- They price the subscriptions at $10-15+ per month making it quite a large expense in aggregate. They’re not being priced the fair cost of maintenance or development, they’re being priced to make even more money.
- The device doesn’t need cloud infrastructure at all, they just chose to do it that way to retain control and keep you dependant.
Both are what’s happening with the Sleep Eight. You literally can’t use any of the sleep detection features (things that run locally on a cheap smart band from 10 years ago) without the cloud. Its insane. There is no good reason that couldn’t be done on device.
I refused to buy it because of their business model, but they’re really the only game in town for this kind of product. They seem to be getting away with it, so I guess fuck me.
The more features something has the more there is to go wrong.
I am also immediately suspicious of any mundane item or appliance that wants internet access.
lol. This is partly why, as a tech person, I refuse to purchase anything for my home which requires a connection. Data mining sons of removed.
I don’t mind cloud services as an automation overlay, but at that point you basically have an Alexa powered Harmony remote, which is unlikely to provide the level of telemetry that Bezos demands. This bed situation is great though. It’s a concrete demonstration for enthusiastic techies about why you shouldn’t connect objects to the web just because you can.
Dat censorship, funny that one can’t even express ones self with out being censored preemptively.
I remember when technology was fun and exciting.
It still is, this shit is hilarious as an observer.
It’s great because the internet was initially developed as a decentralized service so that if any part failed, the rest could maintain communications.
Over the past decade, corporations have been actively developing an internet of services that heavily rely on just a small set of services … and if any of them go down, everything is lost.
Almost like capitalism seeks to dominate every element of material life and the internet is dependent on its material infrastructure to function.
That’s not what “bricked” means.
No, but “bricked up” is slightly more accurate for beds that got stuck fully erect and got bed-privism when they overheated
This latest outage was a great test for my home assistant. Only integrations that went down were weather reporting.
Yep, all I lost was Alexa control so I had to open the app and dim my lights like a caveman 🤣
I’d use HA Voice if it was closer in quality/ability to Alexa (for shouting into the air to control my house) but it’s not quite there yet.
Yeah I’m right there with you. I have one of their beta devices and it… Kinda works?? The one thing Alexa does very very well is picking up on the voice who spoke her name over a very loud environment. I can have my TV blasting and it’ll still hear me without needing to shout louder than the TV. Using Alexa via Haaska rather than giving Alexa direct control was a requirement for me though because I don’t want it to know full details of what it’s actually controlling, just device names and types.
ouch! Local only has been a long term campaign for me. The last thing was my thermostat which I found out was cloud connected when my network went down. I’ve since fixed it using the ecobee local homekit integration. Great test is to manually pull the wan port and see what breaks!
Brick is an evocative word for something happening to a waterbed.
Idiots who pay $2700 for a “smart bed”, deserve this level of service
Most people don’t even consider things like this. That’s why companies keep getting away with it. It’s not the customer’s fault.
I love not even noticing these.
buying a smart bed isn’t too smart, you know?
They only said the bed was smart.
The fact that the pods cannot be controlled when you don’t have the internet is diabolical. I wish I knew this before purchasing.
Cloud service purchaser upset that purchase requires cloud for service to work.
Why do people never consider that anything that requires a server will likely end up in this position when the company decides it isn’t worth it to keep the servers running (or they just go out of business)?
Cloud service purchaser doesn’t realize the system is ONLY a cloud service. Much like the commenters here, these bed owners are asking the same thing" why the fuck does a bed NEED to be connected to the internet?
I would have assumed it allows a direct connection between the controller and your phone. While I fucking hate the need for a wireless device to control my sleep Number (paid for a Bluetooth remote though), none of us can ignore the fact the gen pop loves having apps for the most basic of functions.
these bed owners are asking the same thing" why the fuck does a bed NEED to be connected to the internet?
To harvest your data, obviously. Which is also why they don’t allow local connectivity: you might stop them from being able to data mine you.
I would have assumed it allows a direct connection between the controller and your phone.
Lmao, good one.
Just about any Internet of Shit device I’ve ever worked on, ‘cloud connected’ means ‘cloud first/only’. If your device says it uses the cloud and doesn’t SPECIFICALLY say you have offline access, you don’t.
This is why my smart shit is zigbee/zwave, you can’t cut me off if you can’t leave my network.
Good for you, I’m glad you know so many things. Your knowledge is above average.
They don’t even know what a server is.
“She’s a brick and I’m drowning slowly”
Made my day.
“Smart” beds
