YO HO! Thieves and Beggars! Hoist the colors high!
Oh I didn’t notice 🏴☠️
LoL, same. I didn’t even know a problem existed til I opened up Lemmy this morning. 😂
Thats what happens when a single company controls the flow
I sure do love working at an MSP during times like this. Today fuckin sucked. Clients called in non-stop about things being broke AND our ticketing and remote support software was up and down all day
People are too uneducated to just see what works and what doesn’t and add 1 and 1 together. If Google or WhatsApp work and Amazon doesn’t then it‘s definitely an Amazon problem.
At this point, I’m not surprised by people not having critical thinking skills. I encounter folks who do not think at all about anything on the daily.
Like union guys on an automobile assembly line but holy crap do they ever get paid well!
Don’t judge an entire industry of people bro. That’s hella rude.
I was judging the union, not the working stiffs. Still rude though I guess.
But… those people are allowed to vote… and have children…
And that fact is deeply upsetting at times.
Funny, my digitized collection of movies and TV shows seems to be working just fine. :3
Yarrrr
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I think they were just pointing out that this is the problem with subscription services. You own nothing and you’re screwed when the service goes down.
It really doesn’t take “ludicrous amounts of time and money” to build a private library. It’s interesting how the subscription giants have managed to change people’s perceptions - when you buy content to keep, you keep some of the value, but when you subscribe you’re just getting a time pass to use someone else’s library and won’t see that money again.
They sold the proposition on convenience when everything was in one place, but now it’s all fragmented it’s a waste of money.
And of course plenty of people are building media libraries for free by sailing the seas.
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Didn’t you mention ludicrous amounts of money?
streaming service: 15-20€ per month per service me: vpn 5€ and a cheap hard drive
i’d be poorer with subscribing
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i don’t really understand your point. even buying used dvd’s or blu-rays is marginally cheaper than subscription services. people just became too comfortable.
users pay for convenience and when the service stops their money is gone and they have nothing in return.
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i wonder why you started off on a high horse? like yea of course digitally independent people will brag about it because they´ve been telling everyone for ages they are right and we generally seem to agree
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Nope, buying things second hand should be considered just as bad as pirating as you’re depriving the creators of their entitlements, just to take your argument to its logical conclusion.
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Sure it is. Its their content and you’re not paying them for it which is the same as stealing, right?
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lmao, buddy you can get a 10tb hard drive for like $200 and fit all the pirated media you want on it. that’s less money than two mainline subscriptions for a year.
the VAST majority of data hoarders are pirates. very very few actual spend fortunes on their media collections. that’s why everyone is dogpilling you. it felt like you were attacking a strawman of the average user here and they feel the need to correct you about their nature.
it’s not about pirates feeling moral or superior. it’s about you being wrong about data hoarders.
Good advice, except that’s not a long term storage. Bit corruption is a thing.
yeah, you certainly can spend more and get better, but most media consumers don’t actually care about long term storage like that.
i only know the pricing on those drives because i just had to replace one in a nas device. i only spent money on a nas device because i work in media and need to keep large files for clients. i follow a 3-2-1 backup system because my job depends on it, but it’s not at all necessary to enjoy media.
Just let us be excited
This is our version when there’s a big storm and your neighbourhood dads start going around with chainsaws offering to cut up downed trees.
yep!
You know you can setup a stack for piracy in less than 10min on a $40 microcomputer or even on an old android phone. And with the right setup you can automate the downloads meaning you just search for stuff and it downloads it without effort.
Time and money, not so much.
Checkout YAMS
old server + 12 tb block acc. Costs like 15 cans of coke zero
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conceited
1981 wants it’s term back.
I’m not a native speaker.
Dawg even pirate stream sites don’t host on AWS and GCP, you can still watch your content for free online without worrying about a cloud outage because pirate sites actually distribute their files on several cloud platforms since they’re technically always at risk of DMCA lol.
Why do these companies still sign with AWS? Didn’t they learn from the last two major outages in us-east? To say nothing of the deceptive business practices to obfuscate service utilization to overcharge businesses?
For these large businesses, I imagine they get favorable deals, and all the executives probably know each other and scratch each-other’s backs. For smaller businesses, AWS can decrease time-to-market, it’s easy to find people who are already familiar with it, and is seen as less risky than going with some smaller provider. Though, I hate the “cloud” with a passion, and whenever I’m given the choice, I avoid it. It’s quite a bit cheaper in the long run to avoid cloud providers too. On one long project I worked on, we hadn’t had downtime on any of our VPSs longer than a couple minutes over the course of 8 years.
Can you name a more reliable alternative? With citations?
Because every major cloud provider has outages. On prem clouds also have outages. Everyone does.
Can you name a more reliable alternative?
Stop using hyperscalers. Then when an outage does occur, it doesn’t take down half the internet, and instead only affects a much smaller subset of services.
Problem is that as a provider, if you are sure you are confident you’ll get hit by an outage at some point anyway, it’s actually better for you if a bunch of other big names are brought down at the same time.
Instead of “that one service sucked”, the story is “aws sucked”. If it happens too much people will more widely say “ok they suck for using aws”, but for now the transparency gets them treated more like being affected by an unavoidable external condition.
I’m grateful a lot of sites I like didn’t use aws, but I’m not exactly a common demographic and even I won’t know if she is the services even move or not until another such outage.
Okay, you know those have outages too right?
Like sure, it wouldn’t be all together like this, but that’s also not a reasonable ask for a lot of big cloud customers without huge investments for not actually anything extra reliability.
Did you read my entire comment? I know it’s more than one sentence, but your entire comment would be irrelevant if you read the whole thing.
Did you miss my point?
Why would a company move away from AWS?
Because everyone has outages…
Why should companies invest tens of thousands of dollars to move?
I read your comment. You basically repeated back what I said.
As for “not actually anything extra reliability”, that’s not true. This is literally the definition of all your eggs in one basket. If all these services were instead spread out amongst smaller providers, there wouldn’t have even been any news about it because it would have affected just a few services. But instead half the internet went down.
Even one of the applications I manage was down because of a single RTE npm dependency used on the forms. This is when we discovered that the npm module wasn’t bundling the whole thing but in fact dynamically pulling the js from a CDN hosted on AWS, because our prod instances kept erroring out for everyone (No, I did not write this application and I’m already replacing the dependency).
The argument isn’t about spending thousands for a lateral shift in reliability, the argument is to decouple everything from a single failure point.
Yes, the argument is about spending money to migrate, because how else do we decouple the single points of failure, if not to migrate away?
Remember, this is a capatistic hellscape. Everything is about money.
AWS has outages. So the answer to your question is obvious, AWS is not an advantage over any other solution.
No system is perfect.
Yes, and? Things can be better.
Sure, but perfect?
No one’s asking for perfect. But a better system would account for outages, which we’ve seen plenty of so far. How’s that saying go? Don’t let perfect be the enemy of progress? It’s out of reach for a reason.
PirateBay reliable as ever…
Funny. My Jellyfin instance is working fine. 😏
its us-east-1 as usual, I guess its that time of the year. and the companies haven’t changed either… so, basically the IT guys told the budget approvers we need more money they calculated it and said, no. see you next year for another one.
https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status
I suspect the big problem is that IAM (AWS authentication system) is affected and it is not decentralized, which is causing other systems worldwide to fail because the internal authentication is broken.
I can’t login to the AWS console to check on my stuff in the European zone, because the login goes through IAM in us-east-1 where all the authentication does.
It really highlights just how centralized so much of the internet is on like three companies (Amazon, Microsoft, and Google)
There is a chrome addon that will “block” anything from AWS with the goal being you get to see how much of the world relies on it.
I’m starting to understand why some companies are starting to exit AWS and back to their own data centers.
That’s the ebb and flow of IT hosting / support.
On prem -> off prem -> on prem -> off prem
Same goes for off shore workers. Back and forth back and forth
Every company I’ve ever worked for has had that flip flop. :/
It really highlights just how centralized so much of the internet is on like three companies (Amazon, Microsoft, and Google)
Cloudflare: What am I? Chopped liver?
Basket, dropped
Eggs, broken
Hehe. Imagine managing your house in the cloud, and suddenly there is no heating, no light, all the “smart” appliances don’t work anymore, and the shower only produces cold water, because the shower thermostat got a “0” as return value when asking for the preferred temperature…
There’s a good reason why I refuse to use cloud connected or Internet required “smart” devices.
It’s essentially an excuse for shitty engineering.
If you really need a device to be cloud connected then it can also maintain local data when the remote server is down. Even better, it uses an open spec and you can standup your own server.
It’s not that far off. I woke up to an Internet outage and none of my home lighting routines fired off and I couldn’t control my lights via wifi. I got it under control shifting to Bluetooth but for a second it was infuriating.
the fact that your home network setup for this relies on an internet connection is baffling
Was getting up and turning on the light switch not an option?
Never.
Sounds like someone needs HomeAssistant…
Mostly they need to move to Zigbee/Matter or similar.
God, so many things gone wrong there. At least they could use “30” as the default value, right???
at least its not -254
That would break physics (assuming you’re using Celsius)
well considering it controls a heat exchanger device it can only break you
NM, I had it in my head that absolute zero is -253.15, but it’s -273.15
Hey, I could at least observe superconductors at home!
at least its not -254
Oh no, anyways
opens VLC to watch stuff I already downloaded a few days ago
Oh no!
anywayLooks like it was an Amazon AWS outage. Just geos to how how vulnerable the Internet is as it becomes ever more concentrated into the hands of the tech giants.
As someone who works in tech I occasionally point out to people that if Jeff Bezos decided to go full supervillain he could hold the internet hostage. If you disabled AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud individually the cascading failures on the various systems would take weeks to fix, which we might not have with a supply chain collapse. Genuinely, I think there’s a real chance it could trigger the collapse of human civilization
The mindblowing part of it for me is that a company the size of Disney don’t seem to have the appetite to own and run their own servers.
These are the same people that managed to get two counties redistricted so that they could own their own city, and to this day literally buy the entire electorate by giving housing only to people who vote the way they’re told to.
They’re being run by accountants, and one thing accountants hate is paying people to do a job, its always “far easier” just to pay a company for that.
And criminals.
That’s what they said.
