They control the voting machines now. As if we’re ever getting another chance.
They still NEED the votes though
They need the belief they don’t need the votes. I think they can manufacture that belief almost entirely through old media and bots on social media… In fact I personally believe they already did.
The Rockland County lawsuit is only just starting to move forward and we are only ~year away from misterms. If the midterms happen before that case closes, they have won. If not the war, then at least a major battle.
And I know, Rockland is only one of a number of credible lawsuits, but it’s gotten the most traction so far and you have to be realistic about how fast any of them will move.
I don’t believe it. I’m certain if somehow we get another democratically elected president they will drop all charges in the name of “healing” and let the fascists regroup to try again.
Healing won’t happen unless you debride the festering wound.
I demand truth but reconciliation is strictly optional.
After Nixon- healing/pardon, after Reagan-healing/pardon, Bush 1- healing, Bush 2-healing, Trump 1- healing/oops we waited too long. Seems pretty on brand.
Their actions point twoards them being complicit even
Biden had every opportunity to undo the tax breaks that Trump started. Obama had the option to fight citizens united.
Democrats don’t fight for the people, they don’t fight against the people. They are placeholders until a republican shows up to fight the people for them.
That isn’t going to happen. They’ve violated too many people’s rights.
This isn’t a Nixon situation.
I hope you are right.
The Dems don’t even have to do it, just like how they didn’t the first time. The courts and prosecutors will. Trump will most likely find a way out thanks to SCOTUS’ immunity, but everyone else is fucked.
Maybe it’s time for some extrajudicial justice. We can’t count on the courts to do the right thing any way.
There is no real history of holding the forces of fascist regimes accountable. If you’re thinking of the Neuremberg Trials, I urge you to look up how many people actually got prosecuted and faced justice compared to the total number of Nazi officials. Spoiler: it wasn’t many.
Thinking that members of ICE or supporters of this administration will face ANY legal consequences for their actions is delusionally naive. They won’t.
Even in a magical fantasy scenario where MAGA loses all power, progressives get into office, and enact wide sweeping change to undo all of Trump’s damage and ensure it can’t happen again; the only thing that would happen to these people is that ICE loses funding and they have to find a new job. That’s it. And in reality, even if a progressive takes office, ICE funding is never going away. Just look at the TSA, we were promised it would be a temporary thing in response to 9/11. Does anyone really believe it’s temporary anymore? Does anyone expect even the most progressive politician to push to defund them?
honestly yes, defunding ICE, would be like dismantling the SS in germany. which did happen after WW2, along with the gestapo. they were declared a criminal organization, who committed crimes against humanity.
did all of them suffer for it? no, many of them were reabsorbed into other programs and orgs for the cold war by allies and even germany itself.
but those were only the valuable or lucky members (think project paper clip). most of the remaining less valuable members without good enough connections either fled or faced the nuremburg trials. even those that fled faced trials for decades afterwards.
ICE, if the progressives ever win, will likely be “dismantled” due to public outcry, if not that, its funding will be dramatically reduced to pre trump levels or lower, and those funds put into different agencies, and its less important members will either be absorbed into things like the military, “less extreme” border agencies, the police, national guard, etc. while ones who are proven to have commited terrible acts will likely be charged, if they dont flee in some form afterwards.
this of course is a “hopeful” outlook, history may repeat itself from time to time, but sometimes it plays the telephone game with itself. this is not a blue print, but a potential outcome based on history.
i guess we’ll see. but i HIGHLY doubt the next election will be fair, or have a progressive outcome.
there will likely be a full blown civil war before another “fair” election is had again.
If the US has another Civil War, it shouldn’t reunite as one country again. Too vast a gap in values.
Saddam Hussein, Muhammar Ghadaffi, Osama bin Laden. Lots of tyrants were eliminated for the way they reigned. A country full of angry people, especially a country that still has a death penalty is nothing to fuck around with.
Damn right we won’t forget. We will hang every one of you fascist fucks if it takes every day for the rest of our lives.
We are coming.
The entire administration needs to be thrown in prison immediately. No bail.
I hope somebody throws a bullet+shaped pie at Miller right in his fucking forehead
preferably a cow pie.
Can’t miss with all that space.
Who TF is “Jeremy Raskin”.
Can we proofread at least a little better rawstory?
His name is Jamie Raskin not Jeremy is the point.
Trump may have Supreme Court immunity, but his administration does not.
He can pardon them for federal crimes.
Not unless they “Weekend at Bernie’s” his ass. Off-brand Hitler doesnt look like he’d live long enough for the law to catch up with him and his handlers
I mean they want to undo Bidens pardons. So its like kicking a bear in the nuts hoping it wont strike back, only they know the bear wont because we have to move past this and it sets a bad precedent
If they are kicked out of power then won’t he just pardon them all?
Can’t pardon for state crimes.
or for charges that haven’t hit yet. something tells me the moment he leaves office there’s going to be consequences flowing for all the fucks that don’t have his immunity.
Plus after president AOC packs the court, they will likely re-evaluate the power of pardon.
Didn’t secret service shred their signal messages after the insurrection?
I sure hope it gives them pause, but I don’t think any of these assholes will face consequences. I mean, if recent history is any guide.
The J6 terrorists got a slap on the wrist (and were all given a pardon by Taco), and AFAIK, none of the orchestrators of the attempted coup and those that planned and stoked the terrorism got any punishment whatsoever.
I wish I could believe that but.
*gestures to everything*
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LOL the ignorant poster!
