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    When/if the judge starts arresting people involving, the charges need to be for murder. If they can prove that he’s alive, the charges can be lowered to abduction and attempted murder, plus everything. Throw the fucking book at them, and find a way to make it not federal, pardonable charges.

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    Sadly, I don’t think he’s ever going to be seen again, I hope against hope that I am wrong, but that he is no longer alive is the only reason I can think of that would make them not only refuse to allow anyone to visit, but deny him passage home.

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      Him being dead wouldn’t be the only reason. If he’s allowed back to the U.S. he’d be subject to our laws about treatment of prisoners and there’s a good chance he would get word out about how bad it is in that south American concentration camp. They know they can’t let that happen.

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          I always forget about central America. Also I suck at geography, I have it stuck in my head that anything south of Mexico is south America.

          Thanks for the correction.

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    Dude is saying he can’t be expected to smuggle him back into the u.s.

    He didn’t have any complaints smuggling him into El Salvador.

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      There is no press anymore, they have capitulated. All you have are recorders and interpreters that push whatever Trump wants or they get banned/prosecuted.

      Standard behaviour in a Fascist regime which is what the USA became under trump

      Side note: We now have confirmation that a heavily armed population providers deplorable stats on violence and school shootings while doing exactly nothing to prevent the rise of tyranny… well done USA

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        Side note: We now have confirmation that a heavily armed population providers deplorable stats on violence and school shootings while doing exactly nothing to prevent the rise of tyranny… well done USA

        Yeah my dude, just because I carry or have firearms doesn’t mean I’m obligated to protect you or your rights.

        YOU have an obligation to provide for your safety and to advocate for your rights.

        If there was a public shooting, I have no legal obligation to protect anyone. My goal would be to find a place of safety for me and my family and use my gun to eliminate or at least dissuade the attacker from going after me and mine. You and yours are on your own.

        We are also not nearly at the point of armed rebellion or insurrection here in the US. If you feel this strongly about it perhaps you should take responsibility for yourself and arm yourself instead of depending on others to do it for you.

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          Yeah my dude, just because I carry or have firearms doesn’t mean I’m obligated to protect you or your rights.

          Anyone with common sense would have spotted that… but the sole reason your constitution allows such carefree access to guns was supposed to be so you can defend YOUR OWN COUNTRY against fascism…

          The point being in that it is now proven there is no value in allowing people to freely carry guns; it’s a net detriment to society

          YOU have an obligation to provide for your safety and to advocate for your rights.

          As a Canadian I do, we just do it in a civic way as Fascism has not hit us yet…

          If there was a public shooting, I have no legal obligation to protect anyone. My goal would be to find a place of safety for me and my family and use my gun to eliminate or at least dissuade the attacker from going after me and mine. You and yours are on your own.

          Nobody is asking you… but you keep missing the part where a public shooting is a reality for you since so many people can have guns with almost no preparation, safety or responsibility. Feel free to keep living in your Rambo hero fantasy

          We are also not nearly at the point of armed rebellion or insurrection here in the US

          Let me guess, you think that because they have not come for you yet?.. “fuck you, got mine” is a lousy way to build a society

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            Anyone with common sense would have spotted that… but the sole reason your constitution allows such carefree access to guns was supposed to be so you can defend YOUR OWN COUNTRY against fascism… The point being in that it is now proven there is no value in allowing people to freely carry guns; it’s a net detriment to society

            There are many reasons the right to gun ownership is enshrined in the constitution. Resisting or eliminating tyranny is the most extreme example. But anyone not trying to make hyperbolic anti-2A statements would know this. There is great value in carrying guns. Statistically speaking conceal and carry card holders are the most law abiding segment of society.

            As a Canadian I do, we just do it in a civic way as Fascism has not hit us yet…

            Lol, your Conservative Party candidate Pierre Poilievre was well on his way to winning handily until Trump derailed him with his 51st state and tariff antics. I also seem to remember far right truckers shutting down your highways a few years ago. As much as Canadians love to think they are different from the US, you’re not. You just might get lucky that Trump scared your moderate voters away from facism.

            Nobody is asking you… but you keep missing the part where a public shooting is a reality for you since so many people can have guns with almost no preparation, safety or responsibility. Feel free to keep living in your Rambo hero fantasy

            Your moral compass seems to lack direction. You were just advocating for armed insurrection in the US on your last post. Now you advocate for non violence? BTW Rambo fantasy? How is stating that you would finding a safe place and defending your life with your firearm instead of run and gunning it with an active shooter a Rambo fantasy? You seem to have such a rabid anti gun stance that it clouds your judgement.

            Let me guess, you think that because they have not come for you yet?.. “fuck you, got mine” is a lousy way to build a society.

            See my statement above about advocating for violence and then condemning. This is truly Olympic level mental gymnastics to justify your hypocrisy.

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              There are many reasons the right to gun ownership is enshrined in the constitution

              There is literally only one. It has been twisted into a pretzel of ignorance and illogical fallacies but there is only one. If you think there are more than 1, I’d be happy to read the source

              Lol, your Conservative Party candidate Pierre Poilievre was well on his way to winning handily until Trump derailed him

              Correct, thanks for the live example. Unlike Americans, it seems we noticed and learned… you lived through the first tRump term and decided you wanted more punishment

              Your moral compass seems to lack direction. You were just advocating for armed insurrection in the US on your last post. Now you advocate for non violence?

              No, your reading comprehension lacks competence. The USA is under a fascist regime and as such, an armed resistance should be forming. Canada is not under the same threat (except from the USA) and more importantly, we do not have the “right to bear arms” for a well regulated militia.

              See my statement above about advocating for violence and then condemning.

              A complete non-sequitur… My comment on you having the “fuck you, got mine” mentality is based entirely on your claim you are not willing to move a finger for anyone other than yourself AND that you do not think tRump is enough of a dictator to do anything about it. I am simply pointing out that you think the tRump has not “crossed the line” is that you have not been personally affected by his fascist government. It has literally zero to do with my suggestion an armed resistance should form nor am I even condemning it at all LOL

              The only violence I am condemning in my comment is the fact that the idiots armed in the USA only brought school shootings… and yes, I condemn school shootings, don’t you? let me guess, it has not affected you directly so probably you’d say “we are not there yet”

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                There is literally only one. It has been twisted into a pretzel of ignorance and illogical fallacies but there is only one. If you think there are more than 1, I’d be happy to read the source

                Feel free to read it, seems like you could use an education.

                https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-2/

                Correct, thanks for the live example. Unlike Americans, it seems we noticed and learned… you lived through the first tRump term and decided you wanted more punishment

                Lol, please Canadians learned nothing until Trump started talking trash about Canada. Before then Canadians saw Trump v1 and decided they wanted their own shit tier version with French subtitles. BTW I voted for the lady with the economics degree. I didn’t vote for this shit.

                No, your reading comprehension lacks competence. The USA is under a fascist regime and as such, an armed resistance should be forming. Canada is not under the same threat (except from the USA) and more importantly, we do not have the “right to bear arms” for a well regulated militia.

                I can read just fine. Once again you seem to be advocating for armed violence. BTW YOU are the one who decided to comment about our American 2A rights and now you want to crawl away and hide behind your lack of rights. Pathetic.

                A complete non-sequitur… My comment on you having the “fuck you, got mine” mentality is based entirely on your claim you are not willing to move a finger for anyone other than yourself AND that you do not think tRump is enough of a dictator to do anything about it. I am simply pointing out that you think the tRump has not “crossed the line” is that you have not been personally affected by his fascist government. It has literally zero to do with my suggestion an armed resistance should form nor am I even condemning it at all LOL The only violence I am condemning in my comment is the fact that the idiots armed in the USA only brought school shootings… and yes, I condemn school shootings, don’t you? let me guess, it has not affected you directly so probably you’d say “we are not there yet”

                Wow that was amazing, contradicting yourself in back to back sentences. You start out by stating I’m a selfish jerk for not actively shooting people who are shooting at me. Then you advocate for me to shoot people who are not shooting at me. Then you top it off with a tangent about school shootings where you then condemn shooting people.

                Pick a lane and stay in it. You sound like a 🤡.

                To be clear, the only stance I have taken is for self defense and that I have no obligation to put myself in danger defending you. I also advocate that we are no where near the need for armed violence against others.

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                  Feel free to read it, seems like you could use an education.

                  https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-2/

                  This is exactly the ONE justification I kept referring to. Thanks for proving my point

                  I can read just fine. Once again you seem to be advocating for armed violence…

                  If you can’t tell the difference between school shootings and fighting Fascism, I can’t help you. You are either trolling, morally bankrupt or just dim.

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            That’s not the real reason for the amendment. This is one of the few things where the real reason is right there in the text itself.

            A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,

            It was so they could easily assemble a defense force without the need of a standing army just like they did at the start of the revolution. Not so the peasant masses could more easily overthrow them.

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              Well yes but the current interpretation was that peasant masses could defend themselves from tyrannical governments… it has always been a pretzel of logic but that is what they pushed and why the USA is such a violent mess now

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          TFW a revolution against the government is just another part of your ruggedly individualistic grindset

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            If you want to have that victim mentality grindset and be dependent upon others that is entirely your decision.

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              Lol yeah dude you’re gonna be Indiana Jones surviving a nuke by hiding in the fridge 💪

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                It says a lot about you when you choose to cite the weakest Indiana Jones movie.

                But hey your the one who’s plan is to wait for someone else to save you sooo… 🤷🏻

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                  Dude, my plan is to let keyboard warriors make themselves look ridiculous between meetings and then have a couple beers after work.

                  The original post was about how the whole meal team six refrain of “the 2nd amendment will prevent tyranny” was also a lie, which you help prove with every post.

                  I’m not a huge war buff, but I think to have a successful revolution you’ll probably need to have a friend first.

                  I don’t think I’ve ever seen a revolution in which one buff guy managed to beat a military by having washboard abs and a closet full of rifles, and I doubt you’ll be the first.

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        It’s just like when scientists study obvious things. We needed a rigorous and comprehensive study to show proof and the US has provided that.

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      It’s just speculation, but they’re saying it because nobody has ever been released from CECOT. It’s not unlikely that they are just murdering the inmates and pocketing the money that the United States is giving them, or not sufficiently protecting inmates from violence between other inmates.

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    Because he’s probably dead or at least has had something happen to him they don’t want getting out

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      There are plenty of other wrongly imprisoned people down there that the senator could be given an access to. They’re not all dead yet I’m hoping.

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    Let’s start bombing shit. Or just killing folks. I fucking hate Trump but this is an American and other countries need to understand our citizens are not fair game.

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        Because I’ve suggested America use it’s military to bomb the literal fuck out a country that’s not in Europe?

        Okay, Sherlock.

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          because an american agency sent them there in the first place so are you stating that we should be bombing or killing folks in america?

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      He’s Salvadoran. The whole thing is fucked up and wrong, but they didn’t deport an American citizen. (Yet.)