So where are the bus loads of lawyers? Even with today’s authoritarian reality, that should be an open-shut case. Even if ICE claims they can write their own warrants, there’s no way they’re motivated enough to write one for every unit in a large building. Their laziness trumps their malice
I hate the fact that the international community is just sitting by because it’s an internal affair and only speaking up about trade issues, etc… That’s what gave Nazi Germany carte blanche to do it’s thing leading up to 39.
Every sane country on earth needs to be embargoing the fuck out of the U.S., not just for their own sake, but for the sake of forcing the American political establishment to deal with their own fascist problem or become a paraiah on the world stage.
International community is used to USA being the empire of evil. We’re interested if USians experience it themselves, will they change for the better or civil war splint USA?
Those list USA being evil:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_atrocity_crimes
Those list USA spreading evil
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_intelligence_operations_abroad
I think its missing stuff like Operation Gladio and such, but I don’t want to overwhelm you with links.
And that only is about US government direct crimes, it doesn’t even touch what USA corporations do outside USA.
Yeah but the problem is he didn’t achieve power by some manipulation of the vote at least not primarily he achieved it by getting a bunch of Americans to vote for him. A bunch of stupid ignorant Americans wearing silly hats voted for him.
Shy of any evidence to say otherwise he is the democratically elected leader of the United States. All the countries can’t be setting the precedent that if they don’t like a particular leader they will assist in their downfall.
Besides if Europe playes it’s cards right it’s about to become the economic superpower of the world. The current economic superpower appears to be continuously blowing their own feet off and giggling.
Yeah. That’s very true. I hadn’t thought about it that way. Thanks for giving me something to think about.
I would be mightily surprised if our european brown noser in charge have plans for overtaking the USA. Maybe France, but Germany and UK looks like we can’t even resist Trump a bit or the leading parties even try to emulate him. Which will lead to the same problems here. And afterwards everybody was in the resistance. Again.
1800 people have already been “lost track of” (read: murdered until proven otherwise) in the Everglades concentration camp.
If only the days of invading a fully militarized country were still on the table. You can’t look at this like it’s 1939. With nukes now being a thing no one wants to get involved because it will end in total destruction. America is over, a failed experiment in self governance. In all honesty USA should be broken up into 50 SEPERATE countries. There needs to be a plan in place for this to come to fruition, or its over for you guys. All of you seem to actively hate everyone else in your country.
More like 7-10 countries based on a combination of bioregions, cultural zones, and remaining indigenous communities. Many (most?) US states aren’t developed or densely populated enough to function as independent nations as they currently exist.
I’d start with: Cascadia, California-Nevada, the Southwest (UT/CO/AZ/NM), the Midwest, Texas-Oklahoma, the Confederate States (minus Texas), Yankee (NY, NJ, PA), and New England.
We (New England) will take the damn Yankees, so we’ll have our own southern yokels to look down on. Besides, the only important games in baseball are Red Sox vs Yankees: we’d have the entire major league (that anyone cares about). /s
50 countries is wild lmao
Where are all those GUNS at America???
In the hands of the fascists, just as they’ve always been.
If someone entered the sanctity of my home without first presenting an Article III warrant, they’d get a bullet in their skull
Ice also has guns and they don’t roll in by themselves. They roll four or more deep most of the time on home raids. Even people with guns don’t want to get shot themselves. The way ICE rolls in without warning, most people aren’t locked and loaded in mass sitting in their homes. I’m sure the people there weren’t expecting that excessive action. Most Americans don’t wanna die in a government fire fight if they can help it. You have to be alive to claim self defense, and our government’s so corrupt it’s not a guarantee you’ll win. As deep as ice rolls into these type of situations, it’s not like they won’t have back up to take you out if you do happen to take a couple of them out. Trump will back ICE if they use any excessive force.
A lot of people like to puff out their chest and say that. I still haven’t seen something like that happen in the news for all the times ICE has raided people’s homes throughout the country. It could be a matter of time but it’ll be exceedingly rare.
It does happen, although I haven’t heard of it happening recently with ICE per se, but I do recall Breonna Taylor’s boyfriend firing at police for entering the home unannounced and hitting a cop.
when it happens, it’s not making the news…
Or it’ll be portrayed as sanitized as possible under the guise of mental illness
Cops get shot fairly often because of this kind of stuff.
I agree with you, but…while you say that, when there’s 10 brown shirts outside, ready to return fire, I don’t know how practical that ends up being…
It’s more practical with a super safety 😄
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Anyone. Entering. My. Home. Univited. Without. A. Warrant. Will. Die.
Maybe its ICE. Maybe it’s a criminal. How am I supposed to know?
I feel you and I’m not mad at that - just saying chances are you can’t shoot all the guys in ICE before they shoot you. Most people don’t want to die. Resisting a force as large and organized as the government takes guerrilla tactics.
Fuck off. We’ve been watching this for months. Do something about it already.
The thing is people don’t like to hear it but history has the answer. The only thing that stopped the Nazis was violence. If Hitler’s assassination attempt in the early 1940s had been successful history would never have even recorded his name.
And violence, starts at home. The international community won’t help and couldn’t help even if they wanted to. That will come in time, but Americans have to take responsibility for starting it.
If you won’t stand up for yourself, how do you expect anyone else to stand up for you. Seems pretty simple.
🔔🔔🔔 We have a winner
I keep seeing this. What is there to do?
Commit suicide by
copcapital defense force? Because that’s basically what “doing something” entails.Any positions that could “do something” are on the Fascist’s side, including the for profit news media. We are just as trapped in this capitalist web of coercion as we were before it went full fascist.
Why do you think filthy socialists and commies like myself were telling anyone who would listen, including getting laughed off of occupy Wall Street by the people we were trying to save, I was there, that the capital markets were our doom and our end? Because they were, and here we are.
I’m just glad their dream of this malice continuing in perpetuity truly is just a malignant dream. Climate change has something for this greedy, sociopathic civilization’s ass, and the fact that we’re turning our habitat against the species effectively permanently can’t be bribed, black bagged, discredited, dissappeared, reframed, or any of the other dirty tricks the capitalist fascists have used to get their way and steamroll the innocent.
drones open up a whole host of opportunity on this front, far as being a power equalizer…just saying
They’ve recently passed rules to make it a lot harder for regular Americans to get drones in the US.
Start our own police force?
I mean, that’s just forming a gang, which I consider American police to simply be the largest and most well resourced of, a state sanctioned gang of gleefully violent thugs, unlike police in the developed world.
Police force, gang, militia…
So Americans, you ready to put a stop to this yet?
General strike now. Shut it down. Organize, disrupt, disobey.
Don’t worry, there will surely be people left to speak up for us when they come for us.
Unemployed people be like:
Sure, I’ll just go ahead and lose my job now and deprive my family of food and shelter before the Nazis get a chance to do so.
I’m all for calling out Nazi bullshit, but blanket statements like this help absolutely nobody.
Chickenshit response
Yes, I’m totally chickenshit for choosing to keep my family fed and sheltered over a call to revolution made by some pissant on the Internet larping as a leftist guerilla.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You’re not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
Cool. Let me know when you find a modern labor movement that isn’t sucking neoliberal cock or still living in 1918.
Excuses
Blow it out your ass, kid. The only thing you’ve ever organized is your striped sock collection.
It takes a real man to know when to let those more capable lead the revolution.
Nah, bro. Fuck your vanguards. I’m just not interested in ruining my wife’s life because I fell in with some first semester anarchists who think good praxis is scolding working people just trying to survive for not storming a federal building.
Nobody is saying you have to lead anything, just find someone worth following and start following
Chickenshit response
“I don’t have people depending on me” ass response.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You’re not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You’re not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
I help my wife by paying for her insanely expensive scleral lenses that she needs in order to fucking SEE.
I help my kids by providing a stable grocery budget, reliable transportation to school and back, clothes, and shelter.
I help my nonverbal preschooler by taking him to weekly speech therapy while my wife handles the rest of the family.
You cannot help others when you can’t even help your own family. And calling the people who are literally unable to do anything outside of that, “cowards”, doesn’t help anybody and makes YOU a gigantic piece of shit for refusing to even try putting yourself in someone else’s shoes.
I am doing everything I possibly can in my power, and more, just to keep my family afloat, then you fucking shitheels come in with nobody directly depending on you, point at people like me while puffing your chest out, proclaiming for all to hear: “LOOK, HE IS NOT WILLING TO DO SUCH A SIMPLE TASK, HE IS A COWARD AND A BAD MAN”.
Unempathetic people like you are the entire reason for humanity’s pitfalls.
Do yourself a favor: go fuck a cactus.
That’s a whole lot of words to say “no fuck you I like being a coward and I resent being told to stop or take any responsibility whatsoever for the state of the world my children will inherit”
You don’t have a clue whether I or any of the other people who’ve clearly told you this before have got dependents or not, and you don’t actually care. You’re just looking for any excuse you can find to ignore valid criticism, and in the absence of a coherent argument to support your spinelessness you’re more than happy to make shit up to discredit your critics. Trump would be proud.
You really think business are going to mass fire people if we have a general strike? Do you even know what that is?
Sign your general strike card! It only takes 3.5% of the population to bring the economy to its knees.
Speaking of, I am a little familiar with this group https://generalstrikeus.com/
I don’t see it discussed much in fediverse channels, and I don’t really know why. Curious to hear what people think of them. But they’re the only group pushing for a general strike that I can think of off the top of my head.
Um… I work in elder care. If my team strikes 80+ will die.
We’re not talking about you specifically, and it detracts from the message and the seriousness of the situation to use your specific situation as possibly representative of the rest of the country. If all people who can would strike, then we would be in a good place. You’re an essential worker. We’re not trying to kill off our elders.
Then get a better ducking message that speaks to the people your are trying to speak to or this is what you are going to be running into again and again and no one’s is going to actually hear what you are saying.
And yes that means start being specific. No one knows specifically what to do. No one knows who specifically can be of help. No one knows how specifically to contribute. No one knows who specifically can be trusted. No one knows why specifically they are being targeted. No one knows who specifically can be of help to them specifically
Bland broad blind comments will yield you absolutely nothing. Do the work and talk TO the people you are actually talking to.
Then keep on talking. Keep repeating your message again and again until little DO know specifically what they CAN do
You are going to have to judge your contribution and involvement for yourself. And if you need a list of reasons to strike, you can check out the general strike website for a pretty good list. My family, my community, and my country are under threat, and that’s where I’m coming from.
We don’t have strong labor unions in this country like they do in many European countries, and we’re needing to build this from the ground up right now. It’s difficult and laborious and time-consuming, and any contribution you can make will be worthwhile. You can go ahead and start organizing in your community without actually striking when the time comes. The point right now is outreach and seeing possibilities of how we can organize together: 3.5% of the population is 11 million people, and not even 400,000 have signed strike cards.
For me, I would show up downtown in my city in a second if I knew there was a critical mass of people who were also going to show up. However, it’s much harder for me to miss work, let alone several days of work, if there’s no guarantee that enough people will be gathered together for us to be considered a fighting force. It’s also not worth it to call a strike in this country if we can’t strike for a sustained amount of time. One day strikes send messages, but don’t force change. This movement needs to be built and planned, and spreading the word about strike cards is one method of doing that.
“But how do we change things without any risk or sacrifice?”
Fantastic.
If you’re OK with elderly people starving to death and dying from infected wounds to make a point, you can fuck right off.
I think the general strike is the best bet because they’re looking for a reason or excuse to have the military start massacring civilians. I honestly think a widespread peaceful general strike shutting down the economy until the oligarchs cry mercy is our best hope in this situation
Economic power is the basis of all the megaviolence. General strikes recuperate the true source of the power: worker productivity. Do it now before automation makes it moot.
Yes, who’s organizing it and when?
This has been there for more than six months. They aren’t going to do anything but wave more signs in a couple of weeks. Should work this time.
Who’s fucking idea was it to wait until the 18the of October to do No Kings 2?
I’ve been to several of the protests organized by those groups and I don’t think they are controller opposition but they seem to operate like psychological pressure release valves. We all feel like we’re doing something that will change things but until that mass of people shows up and then refuses to leave rather than dispersing after it actually won’t make a difference
They wont. Most are still cheering this on.
I guess this is why the orange turd said this would be a pre-crime… Whatever the fuck that means
too busy reporting on it and saying we need to do something
This is absolutely insane and highly illegal. The government cannot just kick down a whole apartment building full of doors, enter homes, and arrest people at random without a warrant or exigent circumstances. The law is quite settled on this.
This is absolutely insane and highly illegal.
Add it to the list.
The “law” is being ignored as it was in pre- Nazi Germany when the brown shirts started arresting and beating and intimidating people. There is no law currently.
See thats the fun part is ICE generates their own warrants without any attorneys or judges involved.
They are literally Gestapo.
Those do not allow entrance in a home ( but they won’t tell you that )
Apparently nobody told them that, either.
Does USA needs a bit of democracy?
And y’all think violence isnt the answer? That is literally all their monkey brains can comprehend
It’s quite unreal to watch from the outside what’s happening down there. Violence is the only answer.
This would make Trump really happy.
This, and Epstein is why he’s doing this shit: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-approval-rating-hits-record-low-for-second-term-10815700
Yeah? Well I say we make him cream his diaper. It’s way past time to fight fire with fire. Give them what they seem to crave. The current response is not sufficient.
If even a quarter of those doors had someone returning buck shot this would probably be the last ice raid like that.
Maybe. They would likely call in heavier reinforcement if that became common. Solo fighters stand little chance of making a dent in them even when properly trained and armed. Sadly, that is a situation too many face given so many are so vehemently against violence of any kind. Maybe my ideas are colored by the media and there are more willing to go visceral than the media wants us to believe
A single child with a gun held dozens of cops at bay for hours after the “heavier reinforcements” showed up.
These people are cowards and are only acting this way because they know they won’t face any resistance.
These cops are functionallly bullies, it they realized there was real danger it would stop them. They’ve been avoiding anything actually dangerous for a reason. They might be able to call in a swat team for assistance, but it would destroy their ability to do widespread raids if there was legitimate fear for their own safety.
You’re 100% right.
They’re targeting Democratic cities with large numbers of democratic gun owners because they’re hoping for a confrontation.
It might be inevitable, but I guarantee you they will not back down once you give them what they have been trying to incite.
There’s a reason Miller, Hegseth, and Bondi made an appearance, got all those armed people pumped full of adrenaline, and then literally slipped out the back door yesterday before flying far, far away. They don’t plan on being present on the battlefield for the war they’re creating.
They need people to fight and die while they give orders and watch comfortably from afar like it’s some kind of UFC ultimate match.
Bullshit. If they wanted an armed standoff they’d go to places that have high gun ownership and Stand Your Ground laws.
One of the reasons they are busting into Chicago city apartments id precisely because they know they’re least likely to be armed and anyone defending their property doesn’t have the law on their side.
I’m thinking ICE was not given all that funding for nothing. They were probably already over-funded even before this year, and now they have multiples of what they had before.
Ghouls like Stephen Miller want to see that money spent on inflicting pain on others…
ICE Is Terrorizing Chicago. We Can Stand Up To Them
I am so frustrated that there are not more views on that video. I’m sharing it everywhere. That shit should be fucking viral.
They control what goes viral.
Wtf is going on? This is like Israel war in our own highly populated cities
That’s because both Israel and the USA are run by fascists.
That’s what palantir and oracle were practicing for
It’s called the Imperial Boomerang.
This is just my own speculation, but I think we are seeing a new group of techbros, for lack of a better term, jostle for their seat at the table. We as a nation have refused to expand our positions of power even though we’ve grown in size. For example, we have a capped number of Senators.
We’ve funneled so much new money into the hands of these tech elite they have near run out of places to spend it. So we have multiple private space companies, a booming apocalypse bunker industry, and why not buy a few representatives as well. My point is a bunch of Ayn Rand 1950s sci-fi loving man children who control resources as vast as they do present a terrible condition for democracy and human rights. We are just watching this power struggle between the old guard and the new kids play out in real time. And the women, immigrants, and LGBTQ+ communities are the first to be rounded up this time.
Yes Palestine is a laberatory. Everything learnt there is exported back to the US and EU.
It’s because Taco is a domestic enemy, probably put there by Russian influence. He’s effectively having the nation punch itself in the nuts.
Arm yourselves and everyone you know. Maintain networks. Communicate via encrypted messaging apps.
I kind of agree. I think we’re at the point if you get kidnapped you’re dead already so prevent your loved ones from getting disappeared if you can.
Invest in LoRa for communication. Like 30$ per person to get a mesh going
It is definitely “well regulated malitia” time. start forming a group locally. make plans. have each other backs.
If you want this to stop, the city/county/state needs to bring felony breaking and entering + kidnapping charges to every individual who approved this and carried it out. And like tomorrow or as soon as humanly possible.
The kinds of people who carry these operations out do not have empathy and will only change their behavior by force. A big list of felony counts and lawyer’s fees might make them pause and reconsider.
They can just arrest/hold anyone who is not outwardly displaying credentials. The feds can bail them out, assuming they have proof… Then you start the whole process again tomorrow.
