Yes, I’m totally chickenshit for choosing to keep my family fed and sheltered over a call to revolution made by some pissant on the Internet larping as a leftist guerilla.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You’re not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
Nah, bro. Fuck your vanguards. I’m just not interested in ruining my wife’s life because I fell in with some first semester anarchists who think good praxis is scolding working people just trying to survive for not storming a federal building.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You’re not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You’re not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
I help my wife by paying for her insanely expensive scleral lenses that she needs in order to fucking SEE.
I help my kids by providing a stable grocery budget, reliable transportation to school and back, clothes, and shelter.
I help my nonverbal preschooler by taking him to weekly speech therapy while my wife handles the rest of the family.
You cannot help others when you can’t even help your own family. And calling the people who are literally unable to do anything outside of that, “cowards”, doesn’t help anybody and makes YOU a gigantic piece of shit for refusing to even try putting yourself in someone else’s shoes.
I am doing everything I possibly can in my power, and more, just to keep my family afloat, then you fucking shitheels come in with nobody directly depending on you, point at people like me while puffing your chest out, proclaiming for all to hear: “LOOK, HE IS NOT WILLING TO DO SUCH A SIMPLE TASK, HE IS A COWARD AND A BAD MAN”.
Unempathetic people like you are the entire reason for humanity’s pitfalls.
That’s a whole lot of words to say “no fuck you I like being a coward and I resent being told to stop or take any responsibility whatsoever for the state of the world my children will inherit”
You don’t have a clue whether I or any of the other people who’ve clearly told you this before have got dependents or not, and you don’t actually care. You’re just looking for any excuse you can find to ignore valid criticism, and in the absence of a coherent argument to support your spinelessness you’re more than happy to make shit up to discredit your critics. Trump would be proud.
I don’t see it discussed much in fediverse channels, and I don’t really know why. Curious to hear what people think of them. But they’re the only group pushing for a general strike that I can think of off the top of my head.
We’re not talking about you specifically, and it detracts from the message and the seriousness of the situation to use your specific situation as possibly representative of the rest of the country. If all people who can would strike, then we would be in a good place. You’re an essential worker. We’re not trying to kill off our elders.
Then get a better ducking message that speaks to the people your are trying to speak to or this is what you are going to be running into again and again and no one’s is going to actually hear what you are saying.
And yes that means start being specific. No one knows specifically what to do. No one knows who specifically can be of help. No one knows how specifically to contribute. No one knows who specifically can be trusted. No one knows why specifically they are being targeted. No one knows who specifically can be of help to them specifically
Bland broad blind comments will yield you absolutely nothing. Do the work and talk TO the people you are actually talking to.
Then keep on talking. Keep repeating your message again and again until little DO know specifically what they CAN do
You are going to have to judge your contribution and involvement for yourself. And if you need a list of reasons to strike, you can check out the general strike website for a pretty good list. My family, my community, and my country are under threat, and that’s where I’m coming from.
We don’t have strong labor unions in this country like they do in many European countries, and we’re needing to build this from the ground up right now. It’s difficult and laborious and time-consuming, and any contribution you can make will be worthwhile. You can go ahead and start organizing in your community without actually striking when the time comes. The point right now is outreach and seeing possibilities of how we can organize together: 3.5% of the population is 11 million people, and not even 400,000 have signed strike cards.
For me, I would show up downtown in my city in a second if I knew there was a critical mass of people who were also going to show up. However, it’s much harder for me to miss work, let alone several days of work, if there’s no guarantee that enough people will be gathered together for us to be considered a fighting force. It’s also not worth it to call a strike in this country if we can’t strike for a sustained amount of time. One day strikes send messages, but don’t force change. This movement needs to be built and planned, and spreading the word about strike cards is one method of doing that.
I think the general strike is the best bet because they’re looking for a reason or excuse to have the military start massacring civilians. I honestly think a widespread peaceful general strike shutting down the economy until the oligarchs cry mercy is our best hope in this situation
Economic power is the basis of all the megaviolence. General strikes recuperate the true source of the power: worker productivity. Do it now before automation makes it moot.
I’ve been to several of the protests organized by those groups and I don’t think they are controller opposition but they seem to operate like psychological pressure release valves. We all feel like we’re doing something that will change things but until that mass of people shows up and then refuses to leave rather than dispersing after it actually won’t make a difference
So Americans, you ready to put a stop to this yet?
General strike now. Shut it down. Organize, disrupt, disobey.
Don’t worry, there will surely be people left to speak up for us when they come for us.
Unemployed people be like:
Sure, I’ll just go ahead and lose my job now and deprive my family of food and shelter before the Nazis get a chance to do so.
I’m all for calling out Nazi bullshit, but blanket statements like this help absolutely nobody.
Chickenshit response
Yes, I’m totally chickenshit for choosing to keep my family fed and sheltered over a call to revolution made by some pissant on the Internet larping as a leftist guerilla.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You’re not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
Cool. Let me know when you find a modern labor movement that isn’t sucking neoliberal cock or still living in 1918.
Excuses
Blow it out your ass, kid. The only thing you’ve ever organized is your striped sock collection.
I’m sure believing that helps you feel better about being a fucking coward, it definitely doesn’t help anything else
It takes a real man to know when to let those more capable lead the revolution.
Nah, bro. Fuck your vanguards. I’m just not interested in ruining my wife’s life because I fell in with some first semester anarchists who think good praxis is scolding working people just trying to survive for not storming a federal building.
Nobody is saying you have to lead anything, just find someone worth following and start following
“I don’t have people depending on me” ass response.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You’re not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
I help my wife by paying for her insanely expensive scleral lenses that she needs in order to fucking SEE.
I help my kids by providing a stable grocery budget, reliable transportation to school and back, clothes, and shelter.
I help my nonverbal preschooler by taking him to weekly speech therapy while my wife handles the rest of the family.
You cannot help others when you can’t even help your own family. And calling the people who are literally unable to do anything outside of that, “cowards”, doesn’t help anybody and makes YOU a gigantic piece of shit for refusing to even try putting yourself in someone else’s shoes.
I am doing everything I possibly can in my power, and more, just to keep my family afloat, then you fucking shitheels come in with nobody directly depending on you, point at people like me while puffing your chest out, proclaiming for all to hear: “LOOK, HE IS NOT WILLING TO DO SUCH A SIMPLE TASK, HE IS A COWARD AND A BAD MAN”.
Unempathetic people like you are the entire reason for humanity’s pitfalls.
Do yourself a favor: go fuck a cactus.
That’s a whole lot of words to say “no fuck you I like being a coward and I resent being told to stop or take any responsibility whatsoever for the state of the world my children will inherit”
You don’t have a clue whether I or any of the other people who’ve clearly told you this before have got dependents or not, and you don’t actually care. You’re just looking for any excuse you can find to ignore valid criticism, and in the absence of a coherent argument to support your spinelessness you’re more than happy to make shit up to discredit your critics. Trump would be proud.
You really think business are going to mass fire people if we have a general strike? Do you even know what that is?
Speaking of, I am a little familiar with this group https://generalstrikeus.com/
I don’t see it discussed much in fediverse channels, and I don’t really know why. Curious to hear what people think of them. But they’re the only group pushing for a general strike that I can think of off the top of my head.
Um… I work in elder care. If my team strikes 80+ will die.
We’re not talking about you specifically, and it detracts from the message and the seriousness of the situation to use your specific situation as possibly representative of the rest of the country. If all people who can would strike, then we would be in a good place. You’re an essential worker. We’re not trying to kill off our elders.
Then get a better ducking message that speaks to the people your are trying to speak to or this is what you are going to be running into again and again and no one’s is going to actually hear what you are saying.
And yes that means start being specific. No one knows specifically what to do. No one knows who specifically can be of help. No one knows how specifically to contribute. No one knows who specifically can be trusted. No one knows why specifically they are being targeted. No one knows who specifically can be of help to them specifically
Bland broad blind comments will yield you absolutely nothing. Do the work and talk TO the people you are actually talking to.
Then keep on talking. Keep repeating your message again and again until little DO know specifically what they CAN do
You are going to have to judge your contribution and involvement for yourself. And if you need a list of reasons to strike, you can check out the general strike website for a pretty good list. My family, my community, and my country are under threat, and that’s where I’m coming from.
We don’t have strong labor unions in this country like they do in many European countries, and we’re needing to build this from the ground up right now. It’s difficult and laborious and time-consuming, and any contribution you can make will be worthwhile. You can go ahead and start organizing in your community without actually striking when the time comes. The point right now is outreach and seeing possibilities of how we can organize together: 3.5% of the population is 11 million people, and not even 400,000 have signed strike cards.
For me, I would show up downtown in my city in a second if I knew there was a critical mass of people who were also going to show up. However, it’s much harder for me to miss work, let alone several days of work, if there’s no guarantee that enough people will be gathered together for us to be considered a fighting force. It’s also not worth it to call a strike in this country if we can’t strike for a sustained amount of time. One day strikes send messages, but don’t force change. This movement needs to be built and planned, and spreading the word about strike cards is one method of doing that.
“But how do we change things without any risk or sacrifice?”
Fantastic.
If you’re OK with elderly people starving to death and dying from infected wounds to make a point, you can fuck right off.
Sign your general strike card! It only takes 3.5% of the population to bring the economy to its knees.
I think the general strike is the best bet because they’re looking for a reason or excuse to have the military start massacring civilians. I honestly think a widespread peaceful general strike shutting down the economy until the oligarchs cry mercy is our best hope in this situation
Economic power is the basis of all the megaviolence. General strikes recuperate the true source of the power: worker productivity. Do it now before automation makes it moot.
Yes, who’s organizing it and when?
https://generalstrikeus.com/
This has been there for more than six months. They aren’t going to do anything but wave more signs in a couple of weeks. Should work this time.
Who’s fucking idea was it to wait until the 18the of October to do No Kings 2?
I’ve been to several of the protests organized by those groups and I don’t think they are controller opposition but they seem to operate like psychological pressure release valves. We all feel like we’re doing something that will change things but until that mass of people shows up and then refuses to leave rather than dispersing after it actually won’t make a difference
They wont. Most are still cheering this on.
I guess this is why the orange turd said this would be a pre-crime… Whatever the fuck that means
too busy reporting on it and saying we need to do something