NYT? is that the same NYT that was telling Democrats for decades that the only reason they aren’t winning is because they aren’t Republican enough?
OK, gift article, you have my attention…
…nah, it’s just more of the same
edit: I was listening to a Cory Doctorow interview yesterday and he had some very interesting things to say and I was reminded of this article again. Talk was long, interesting and meandering, but this was one of the things that reminded me
Thank you for the TL:DR flavor text.
Oligarchy destroyed the social contract and forced nihilism amongst the youth. It’s why the entire world is tilting authoritarian. Democrats need to pivot hard into proper wealth taxation otherwise things will only devolve further. It’s a moral imperative at this point.
Americans need to learn to differentiate between the vehicle and the driver. The democratic party will not affect change until the vast majority of it’s sitting members are primaried.
No need to fix an election when the rich own all the horses in the race.
It would be nice if people under 50 showed up to the primary. Most incumbent wins are just old people using name recognition to “not rock the boat”.
Wealth taxation may be an important men’s to an end, but in our discourse we need to emphasize more what benefits would be planned for the tax revenue.
Reducing the wealth of greedy assholes is nice, but by itself only gets so far.
Yea. that’s kind of the problem, no one in power has a plan for education, healthcare, housing, wage stagnation, two-tiered job market, or anything really. But one of the benefits would be not running up a deficit. We spend way too much on interest payments, and we really don’t see the pay off for the money being borrowed. It’s time for a new government the old one broke itself with greed.
🔫 always has been
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NYT “Eat the Rich Populism”: Angrily posting memes at a few select right-wing billionaires and a bunch of foreigners, particularly in China
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Actual “Eat the Rich Populism”: Nationalizing critical infrastructure that’s being horded by the billionaire class in the aggregate
Pull up the societal ladders that allow people to become billionaires in the first place. Transferring a nations wealth from 5 pairs of hands to 10 pairs of hands once a generation is not a realistic long term governance
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Democrats are the crisis that they manufactured
IMO people need to rally behind new progressive candidates and primary more than 50% of the sitting party in 2026. About 75% of the party are incompetent at best and complicit at worst.
People need to look past the individual members of the progressive caucus like AOC and realize the monumental organization it took to get her elected.
Republicans fix elections. Democrats fix primaries.
Progressives need messaging and a concise platform. ‘Fix housing, healthcare, inflation, immigration, monopolies, LGBT rights, income inequality, unemployment, gerrymandering, climate, education…’ Everyone who’s even capable of listening past 4 objectives knows they’re not all going to happen and assumes that means they’re all bullshit.
I’ve really been liking “Tax wealth not work” but I’ll take anything stronger than “return to normalcy.”
I’ll take anything stronger than “return to normalcy.”
You mean the normalcy that allowed Trump1.0 to happen in the first place, and allowed Trump2.0 to grab and pervert as much power as he has now? I fully agree, there is a larger lesson to be learned from all this than “phew, thankfully the Democrats won this time, and Trump can’t run again”. There are systemic problems behind all this.
Focusing on the platform just unilaterally raises the bar for people voting democrat. As you’ve identified, many people do not have the attention span for all of that.
Plus it is not mutually exclusive that the democratic party is both part of the problem and the only viable vehicle to platform solutions. In fact, that is one of the messages the GOP has used quite successfully. “Drain the swamp.”
If you have not watched the documentary I linked above than I must politely suggest to you that you may not be aware of all the underhanded systematic tactics employed against progressive candidates. People are missing the forest for the trees when it comes to democracy. No need to fix elections when the rich own 95% of the horses in the race.
Progressives would naturally do better in elections if they didn’t have 2 parties spending billions of dollars to keep them out of power.
Progressives need to fully commit to grass roots electoral organization.
Republicans fix elections, democrats fix primaries.
All Americans need to commit to grass roots elections and candidates. We gave away our political responsibilities for convenience
Same thing here. There was a brief period where I thought I could just worry about my own affairs, get a little informed, then vote once in a while — trusting there were adults in charge of the boring business of government, with our collective best interests in mind — well, fuck me for assuming those that seek power would know how to use it responsibly, because now I’ve got to get involved in my local politics and activism just to be a good citizen Ig. But God damn do I wish I could just focus on handling my own personal shit, because that is hard enough on its own, let me tell you…
Yea I’m mid generation millennials. I also took too long to politically mature. My grandmother is 95 and has always been involved with politics. My mom is 65 and she’s a primary voter, don’t think she ever politically matured tho. The silent generation was the last active participant in civics. Got lost on the rest of us.
Reform will never work, anyone challenging the current system will never be given any committees or positions of power within the party that threaten the existence the status quo
Reform will never work
Behold! The rallying cry of people who’ve tried nothing and are out of ideas.
Y’all are unironically the leftist equivalent of MAGA’s Meal Team 6.
How well is repeating the same fuck ups over the last 50 years working out for ya?
Quite well. Not that I’d expect someone who can’t wrap their heads around American politics to understand Canadian civics.
It’s a little beside the point, but:
75% of the party are incompetent at best and complicit at worst.
Compared to Republicans, where the number is practically 100%.
We just need to agree to abandon the two party system. We’re supposed to be sending members of our communities to Congress, not members of a party
That’s as true as it is easier said than done.
It’s really not, there’s like 10 dudes running for those positions who will never get 1,000 tv ads, but you can still vote for them and use social media to advocate.
Respectfully… you are 10000000000th person to suggest this; and it still hasn’t happened yet.
You’re not wrong.
It’s just easier said than done!
It only gets harder as all the public resources around information, education, and activism are high jacked by the two party system. Citizens initiatives are never easy, but we don’t have any notable ones right now. Would be a good time to get some. Dissatisfaction with both parties is at all time highs, it wouldn’t be hard to get some simple yet strong legislation pushed through at that level.
Ranked choice and/or proportional representation needs to happen before a third party can work.
I from Maine, we have ranked choice voting and we have sent an independent to the senate for the last 30 years. You can do it too! Anyone can really. You just ignore the donor class candidates and vote for the person not on TV 50 times a day! A lot of you do need to work on your local elections laws, great place to start fighting.
Man. FUCK the nyt.
It was the answer ten years ago now we are in an authoritarian technofacist oligarchy that is “disappearing” people……womp womp. Day late and a private airplane bribe short there NYT
The comments section is closed with a pinned request of the author shocked he got backlash.
I wish I could follow up with this guy.
Probably call the editor for approving it.
NYT Opinion column again
Weird how the media still won’t acknowledge the progressives have control of the DNC & the neo-libs are on the way out.
Since when? I thought they used procedural bullshit to keep Hogg out
God damnit, you’re right, I missed that in June.
In that case, burn it down.
lol what? Progressives absolutely do not have control over the Democratic Party. They’re the only ones doing anything so they get the media attention, but the neo-libs still hold all of the power in the party.
Yes, if you bothered to read the entire thread you’d see I just learned Hogg was pushed out in June, thanks.