• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    Imagine defying the universal odds and getting to be sentient for a blip of existence in a vast, ancient universe and you end up being this fucking loser.

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      He canvassed the area several times to really understand what went on. He couldn’t leave before tasting much of the menu…

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    My local gay bar posted on Facebook about a massive increase in harassment, as well as a physical assault on a patron.

    Stochastic terrorism.

    A trans woman was attacked in Washington last week. People on Facebook are mask off, saying it was deserved.

    Is this going to explode into an orgy of violence and then finally die down? Will something bad enough happy than people will be shamed back into calling evil, evil?

    There were two separate shootings at homeless camps last week. I barely saw coverage of it.

    I feel so much pressure and fear that I can’t think. I don’t understand why people are filled with so much hate. It can’t feel good, can it?

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      We have our Pride in October because of the summer heat, the board of my organization isn’t worried about booth setup or swag or elevator speeches. They primarily want a map showing every possible exit scenario depending on where a shooter might begin. We are going forward with the expectation that Prides will be more violent. And that breaks my heart.

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          Exactly, we’re steeling ourselves but we’re gonna be there come hell or high water. I’m reminding my guys that the first Pride was a riot and the next 20 were protests.

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        If you’re in an area where open carry is allowed, it may be worth seeing if there is a JBGC nearby that might be open to helping provide security

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      It breaks my heart to read a sane, reasonable person being in the US right now. Hold tight, I hope you survive this

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      It’ll take multiple occurrences of a cisgender person being misgendered and shot to death over it for anything to happen and even then it’ll be on the “thoughts and prayers” level of effort as it is with every other shooting that happens near daily here

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        When I’ve shared articles about cis women being accused of being trans in bathrooms/harassed, the response is always “this wouldn’t have happened if trans women stayed out of women’s bathrooms to begin with.”

        They just seem to want to hate.

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          They are told to hate, so they do… and if you’re looking for something your going to find it

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        It’s sad to say, but if you are trans or even gay, you need to start executing your escape plan if you have one. If you dont have a plan, you need to start making one, fast. This isn’t going to blow over any time soon. Help each other out where you can - there are plenty that will struggle to find a way out.

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    These fucking slack jawed brainlets still haven’t come to terms with the fact that Kirk’s killer was one of their own.

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        /s?

        He was raised Mormon in a full MAGA family, and nearly all photos show him surrounded with rifles.

        He may have been confused, and I can buy he went libertarian, but if he was a leftist, I’ll eat my hat on camera.

        e: oh no, it wasn’t /s, judging by your other comments. That’s just sad.

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            You seem to be projecting your ‘scream-cry’ onto me, when all I did was give you the statistics you asked for.

            I’ll not hold your hand when you can’t click links and read, and I’ll not entertain your childish soliloquies.

            Type another inane dissertation all you like – I didn’t sign up here to be an elementary school teacher.

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              You read the comment thread in which someone else posted links, but not my response to that… Superb

              Yea, dismiss my argument and do pretend that you didn’t read the exerts from the bbc article that delved into his presumed beliefs! Kinda happy you fuck off, you have nothing to contribute

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                Sigh. My comment, my links.

                Here, I’ll post it again, since you seem to be a bit in need of coffee or something:

                Yes, statistically.

                Based on government and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001.

                Want to claim the government and independent studies are fake again?

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                  You think I am going to memorize usernames? And why aren’t you responding to my question that I posed to your brilliant argument? Why don’t you think that black people committed this crime? They are statistically more likely to do so

                  Also, aren’t you the pup who claimed the one source I have been posting again and agaon is not from the bbc…? You are! Who is having issues opening and reading links?

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        I haven’t seen any hard evidence he was a full-on leftist, but I haven’t seen any hard evidence he was maga either.

        From what I’ve seen, he was definitely left of his parents, but there’s a whole lot of different ideologies to the left of maga.

        I think the only way we’ll know for sure his ideology is if he says so.

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          The bbc is now right wing fake news…

          • “Robinson’s mother said her son had started to lean more to the left, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told a news conference on Tuesday, “becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights orientated””

          +2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”

          +3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”

          Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp

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          Do you guys dress up as people you look up for to an event where you supposedly scare people into giving you candy?

          • “Robinson’s mother said her son had started to lean more to the left, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told a news conference on Tuesday, “becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights orientated””

          +2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”

          +3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”

          Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp

          Yea, your rights he was probably a republican! Well not because of the evidence but because it would kinda sound funny if another right wing monkey were shot by their voters

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            ‘More to the left’ of MAGA is not ‘leftist’, ffs. That whole family is deep MAGA, so more to the left isn’t even necessary centrist. Libertarian, maybe, or still far right, but thinks LGBTQ people might be people.

            Are you even paying attention? Do you think trans people, women, and immigrants deserve rights? Answer honestly.

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              These are the only information we have on which we can take a gander to his beliefs, which point to him being a leftist

              On what do you base that he is anything else?

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                You said ‘leftist’, and you made claims about that based on what his grandmother said.

                I said coming from a MAGA family, ‘drifting left’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘leftist’. Compared to MAGA, ‘moving left’ can mean anything from libertarian to centrist. That’s not a claim, it’s calling you on your claim.

                We don’t yet know anything about him other than his family is MAGA and Mormon, so let’s not speculate what his beliefs are, eh?

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                  Mother, now now someone is even struggling with reading exerts from a source…

                  Coming from a background is almost as weak sauce as your statistics argument

                  Aaaaaaah, so now we go from he is ‘right wing ‘to lets not speculate… If we go by facts researched provided by an actually neutral party, that of the british national news source, we can only assume that he was left leaning and by his action that he is an extremist! Just because he did something you actually don’t disagree with I reckon, but is disadvantageous for your group does not give you the right to decide his political beliefs

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        There’s a thing called “Poe’s Law” that states “without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.”

        So your “joke” relies on the idea that zero rightwing nutjobs will read it as encouragement. Which is just highly unlikely.

        It’s very difficult to joke about extremism online because there’ll almost always be extremists who take it as encouragement. To them, you’re indistinguishable from any other MAGA supporter.

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          Its not a joke, on the information available to us I am led to believe that he was a leftist!

          What they have in the Us, in terms of political ideologies, cannot be considered leftism by an stretch of the word! Alas, I would have no insecurities if one of my tribesmen were to do something I disagree with

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              Its extremism to believe that a person on whom all information available points to him leaning to left being someone who leans to the left… I reckon I am an extremist

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                “All information available” is apparently one BBC article that you keep posting over and over, while calling numerous articles and studies on the ideology of most domestic terrorists “made up,” and the conclusions you draw from your one single source an “assumption.” Gosh that’s some irrefutable evidence you’ve got there chief. 🙄

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                  -Yea, thats all the info we have available! You are welcome to post more, though I reckon you would have if you had any more!

                  -What studies did I call made up again?

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    This guy represents the entire GOP and is one of their hero’s. They are sad he was not able to complete his mission.

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      American conservatism is a racist domestic terrorism movement.

      I’d say “change my mind”, but you won’t. Because that’s quite literally what it is.

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    Have you heard Alex Jones lately? Shouting ‘kill, kill, kill’ like a rabid baboon?

    There will be more of this.

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      WHAT THE FUCK!!! Why the fuck are we allowing that motherfucker to still have a platform? Doesn’t he owe billion dollars to some families? Motherfucker needs to be drag off the air and beat to death.

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        I see you’ve listened to the latest Knowledge Fight.

        Yeah, it’s baffling.

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            https://knowledgefight.com/

            They listen to (and rip apart) Alex’s shit so you don’t have to. It’s quite good, though it may raise your blood pressure.

            In the episode from 16 September (second to latest, actually), Alex shouts ‘Kill, kill, kill!’ in reference to the ‘woke trans agenda leftist terrorists’.

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                No, but it’s good to hear what his audience is hearing, to stay abreast of what’s driving them. I’d rather know, but I can’t stomach actually listening to hours of their bullshit, so it’s nice having highlights.

                Lately he’s not just lying and moneygrubbing – he’s outright inciting them, very explicitly. And enough of his audience is mentally unstable enough to do something about it.

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                  A man who will profit off of sending his fans to harass the parents of dead children, will basically do anything. There is no bottom.

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    He told officers that he did not own a firearm but that he would buy one to shoot up the nightclub.

    Okay… so dude calls crisis line to rant and rave and make threats. Cops get called on him. But then you go ahead and tell the cops you’re going go buy a gun to shoot up the club?

    You’re in enough trouble as is, shut the fuck up, or actually don’t so you spend more time in jail, but wow. So much fail.

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      It sounds like the guy wasn’t getting much action at the gay clubs, so decided to try his luck in prison.

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    It’s not the point of the article, but this is absolutely not what a “martyr” is. I have the same reaction when ISIS members say they are becoming “martyrs” by suicide bombing groups of civilians. That’s not what the word means, and you’re just becoming a murderer.

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    Ya know, back in my Christian days I always thought it was pretty great that the bar for heaven was so low… Now I crave the flame to avoid these fuckwits

    Edit: typo

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    The right are stochastic terrorist murderers, and we are the infidels.

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    We had to 86 a guy this weekend. He was a regular, kinda off but never a problem. Well, this weekend he just started going nuts with this shit. Racism, transphobia, conspiracy theories. He was harassing the bartender and the two patrons sitting next to him. Took three of us walking out from the kitchen to get him to move. He was ready to go to war.