Interesting how this seems to happen every single time there’s a large gathering of Republicans.
Imagine the utopia we could have if these cowards just came out as themselves instead of becoming psychotic self-hating fascists.
This is part of the reason they are going after transgender people so much. Most Republicans are in the closet and they don’t want their past lovers to let the public know what they are doing behind closed doors.
It’s also why they choose so many white, blonde women to be their face on the news and in the Whitehouse.
They try so hard to make their voter base think they are " MEN!!" and do “MANLY THINGS!!!” When actually most of them are crybabies and closet bisexuals.
IIRC transgender porn is by far the most popular in the deep US south.
Also why they are convinced sexuality is a choice and they hate the ones who have made the choice they wanted to make but felt they couldn’t/can’t due to social and religious pressures.
At the Manly Mens club in Manhatten.
A Republican manufacturer running for governor in Wisconsin as a conservative supporter of “family values” and President Donald Trump followed numerous sexually explicit accounts online, including a nonbinary pornography performer.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported Monday that Bill Berrien, the CEO of Pindel Global Precision and one of two announced 2026 Republican candidates for governor, unfollowed several accounts in recent days after the newspaper asked about the matter.
Make anuses gape again!
Ok, but does this also happen at other large congregations in that location? Otherwise this is just a population density anomaly map.
If the only population change is that MAGA is there, then it’s pretty specific.
Might be a low density neighborhood. Also it’s a very high density congregation in a potentially uncommon location as their voters are more rural.
The memorial was held in a major football stadium downtown in one of Arizona’s main cities. If that’s low density, I’m curious what a high density place would look like.
I don’t know. Stadiums are not very high density though, irc. As the center takes up loads of space.
Which would be relevant if the stadium were surrounded by grassy fields for miles around. As I already said, it is not.
Why is this being downvoted?? This is a valid question.
We know that it surges at Republican conventions.
The post implies but does not actually show us that this is disproportionate to other congregations.
It’s a kink they want to make it edgy again…
Don’t mind comment. Testing.
Replying to test. IDK what you’re testing, but just in case it helps.
It’s funny they have 8 upvotes right now. Sort of like at a concert when people start cheering for the sound check guy
If the crowd doesn’t make the sound check guy ask the crowd to please be quiet for just a second then the crowd doesn’t belong at the show.
I always love when the people testing drums and guitars and such just jam a little. Sometimes it’s the band themselves, but often it’s just some stage hands having a little fun at work, and I’ll always cheer for that.
The engagement that “test post please ignore” brings is something that ought to be studied
Just new to lemmy. Testing how things work and what can be said.
Are these correlations actually indicative of mass closeted homosexuality in the maga Christian sect? It’s fun to believe that’s what it is but I have met a LOT of maga/far right homophobe types and it seems like a stretch to believe that a significant number of these people are secretly gay.
Lots of homophobes are closeted, self-loathing gays.
I mean sure, sometimes I feel like that narrative is blown out of proportion. But maybe I’m wrong. It’s more fun to think that’s how it is though, for sure.
And yet, so often, the loudest anti-LGBTQ voices turn out to be gay, and the loudest protect the children voices turn out to be kiddie diddlers or CSAM producers or hoarders. Often, where there is smoke there is fire and Republicans do a lot of smoking.
True.
Smoking poles.
If you are confident with your sexuality, why would it bother you what others do? It is not like it can switch who you are attracted to.
The only exception I see are the people who got convinced that gays can influence that their kids will be gays. That’s a bit harder to convince it is a bullshit.
convinced that gays can influence that their kids will be gays
if that’s how it works, then just influence your kid to be straight again, “problem” solved.
You don’t understand: teh gays are just cooler than straight people, so the kids are powerless against their ‘rizz,’ and boring straights can’t hope to compete.
That’s so funny, I’ve never heard it put like that but that’s exactly what a lot of them think.
This is especially crazy thinking in places where being gay is hell (in some especially bad ones even punishable by death). If it was a choice, why would someone willingly choose that, when being straight is so much easier.
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That IS how some people think it works, which is why conversion therapy gets pushed. I appreciate that you were joking but it would be lost on anyone you’re actually talking about.
Yeah, your logic follows. Maybe I’m wrong.
How else can you explain the phenomenon in the headline? It’s genuinely not the first time a large GOP event crashed grindr.
Self-loathing bisexuals.
“If I can choose not to be gay, so can you.”
Yes, yes they are. Through a friend I know a few trans and gay sex workers, and they make a killing every year at the RNC.
They should look into how much they could make through blackmail
Interesting. I have no context for that, but that doesn’t mean you’re wrong or that I don’t think your claim is credible by any means. It’s entirely possible that I’m wrong and the closeted gay Republican is as large and ridiculous of an issue as it appears to be.
No, a lot of them really are, it isn’t complicated.
Repress sexuality, sexual expression, codify a rigid set of norms around it?
It thus becomes fetishized, and this must also be a secret, because you essentially lose all your face, your social status, respectability, as s conservative, if you are outed.
We think it is ridiculous they are hypocrites.
They all know they are in the company of hypocrites, what they do not like is the tearing of the veil, the decomposition of the masquerade.
If it needs to be stated: I grew up in this culture and had to actively flee from it.
EDIT:
Also, this is why conservatives associate trans people and homosexuals with pedophilia.
To them, it all falls into one bucket of forbidden faux pas. It is all heresy, it is all sin, all perversion, differentiation is largely unimportant, in fact even attempting to make the differentiation explicit is often viewed as a sin.
Of course, again, this makes all of this into secret fetishes, which the power hierarchy of their culture will nearly always orient itself in such a manner to protect the power structure itself, very often by supressing reporting or punishment for say, being an active pedophile or rapist, be this in the context of a family, or a wholr chuch body, whatever.
Its all there when you look under the curtains, but their whole thing is worshipping the curtains, the conformity.
Psychosexuality is the root of almost all politics, prove me wrong lol.
Nah, you’re right.
I’m sorry to be the one ruining the fun. The graph is from down detector. A website where people “report” than a site or service is down.
I’m pretty sure at this point people just report grindr being down in any republican reunion just for giggles. During Eurovision and other promient gay friendly events that grindr is put under great stress haven’t go down in my experience. I doubt a dude funerals is going to make it.
That doesn’t take from a lot of republicans being closeted gay. But I’m almost certain on the troll factor being big here.
Yeah. It’s honestly probably a little bit of that, a little bit that the closeted gay Republican theory holds water, and a little bit of the loghouse republicans in there.
It’s literally just a massive event causing infrastructure problems. You’d see the same downtime for other similar services at the same time. I don’t know why this meme keeps coming up.
It’s like saying I couldn’t charge my vibrating anal sex toy because my power went out. The Republicans at the convention must be all charging their own vibrating anal sex toys and taking all the power.
Its also kinda homophobic in the “the gays are self hating” kind of way. Yes. There are closeted gay Republicans. But it’s not a meaningful number to matter.
These memes just make liberals look dumb for not understanding how infrastructure works. Fuck Charlie Kirk and the Republicans. But this shit is just dumb.
Servers are not some independent resource. Heavy pressure on internet infrastructure will cause downtime or latency issues on servers even if they aren’t the ones being used directly.
Some services will work better than others as they are designed to handle spikes. Grindr likely doesn’t invest in that as it doesn’t profit them to do so. The opportunity cost aren’t worth it. Uber on the other hand would as spike pricing benefits them heavily. So they likely have server allocation to handle high demand (which takes resources from other services even more).
TLDR: Internet infrastructure is complicated and it’s not some directly allocated resource. Grindr having outages does not directly mean that Grindr is the application with high demand.
You went on a very long and winding road to defend your assumption that republicans don’t have a significant closeted bi component, which is the obvious and correct conclusion from the data. Why wouldn’t Republicans be closeted bi people? Is being a nasty hater really specifically a straight thing? Are all bi people sweetness and light?
Imagine you were brought up to hate yourself for wanting sex with men and learned that the “right” thing to do is “choose” to suppress it? Wouldn’t you be jealous of or angry with men who broke the rules and were out and facing no consequences, when you’ve had to deal with so much shit?
It might be the correct conclusion. But it’s definitely not related to the data at all. Again, my post is about server infrastructure and why literally countless other websites experienced the same issues in that location during the event.
This is cherry picking data and assuming ignorance of how internet usage spikes cause downtime in ALL internet services.
You don’t need bad data like this to confirm that Republicans have closeted gay men. There are countless other ways we know this.
literally countless other websites experienced the same issues in that location during the event.
Show me that data from a reliable source or accept that I believe you invented it to support your conclusions.
You’re trying to project a likely true statement onto data that does not mean what you think it means.
It’s why all of the replies I’ve had have been about closeted gay/bi people in the Republican party and have addressed nothing about the main point of my comment: internet infrastructure.
I never denied anything you’re saying here. I mostly agree with it. But I’m autistic and have to explain why this outage map is meaningless. It’s a perfect example of correlation not meaning causation.
It’s a perfect example of correlation not meaning causation.
If G (grindr outages) is strongly correlated to R (large Republican events) there are only a handful of explanations:
- Random chance, like the per capita consumption of margarine correlates with the divorce rate in Maine.
If you trawl large numbers of pairs of data sets for correlation, you will inevitably find some which have a low probability of being that strongly correlated, just as if you randomly survey large numbers of people their age, eventually you will find individuals who are “surprisingly old” or “surprisingly tall”.
This kind of fallacy is best avoided by testing only hypotheses that you have a plausible cause and effect scenario. In the case of GOP gatherings, there are a lot of men who plausibly would want to hide their sexuality so do not want their liberal neighbours or colleagues to see a grindr profile pop up where suspicion could fall on them, and who therefore see being away from home as an opportunity to engage in more anonymous man on man sex.
So with a reasonable hypothesis, it’s then reasonable to all of the data supports it. It does. It’s by no means proof, by this isn’t a court of law.
- G causes R. Not possible.
It takes days to arrange a large event, so the GOP cannot respond to Grindr outages by rushing to hold a convention in that location, amusing though the idea is.
- R causes G.
Highly plausible, as discussed.
- Some third factor A causes both R and G.
This is like the correlation between hand size and foot size which is particularly strong if you only include children. (A here is age and hormonal changes over years.) I can’t think of anything that would cause both Republican events and Grindr outages.
I think it’s fair to conclude that R causes G here.
This is a perfect example of someone using statistics to come to a bad conclusion.
The problem is that you don’t understand internet infrastructure. You’re coming to a false conclusion because you are assuming something to be true that isn’t. So you are starting from a faulty premise. All reasoning can be sound afterwards and still give you the wrong answer.
You are assuming that internet website’s and apps have outages independent of one another. That a site “going down” is only caused by the servers being overwhelmed with traffic that is directly requesting interaction with that one specific server.
And this is just not true in the slightest. Even for “self hosted” websites. Internet infrastructure (especially in America with no net neutrality) is heavily dependent on the ISP prioritizing some packets over other packets. It is an extremely priority driven system that is far too complex to come to conclusions on with this single chart showing USER REPORTS (another unreliable factor) of outages.
So you can ChatGPT me all the responses you like. But you still haven’t addressed this very simple point: A WEBSITE DOES NOT EXPERIENCE OUTAGES ONLY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE USING THAT SPECIFIC WEBSITE A LOT. Your grandmas art website can experience outages because of high usage in the same area.
Like I said. That same day and location websites and apps of all kinds experienced outages due to the spike in traffic from the event. Unless you have ISP data (you don’t), showing which servers were causing the largest spike in usage, you can’t come to the conclusion you are coming to.
You’re trying really hard to prove something. So you are making an assumption and keep ignoring that you are in your replies.
I’m simply saying: there is not enough data to come to a conclusion one way or the other. We have no idea if Grindr went had outages due to Republicans using the it a lot OR if because Republicans just just caused a spike in Internet usage that made the connection to Grindr unreliable.
And given the statistics of gay/bi men being 5% of the total population. Its really heavily weighted in favor of the 95% of other people just using the internet a lot. Well, 100%, because gay/bi men also use the internet for non Grindr related stuff.
Yes, A WEBSITE CAN EXPERIENCE OUTAGES WHEN PEOPLE ARE USING THAT SPECIFIC WEBSITE A LOT because otherwise DDOS wouldn’t be effective.
I.e. your “DOES NOT” is incorrect.
In future, try not to lecture people with computer science degrees that it’s impossible for websites to be brought down by spikes in demand.
Also your assertion that I’m using an LLM to talk on social media without checking my post history on just how unreliable I think it is is foolish, and of course another example of you being incorrect. Did you not think that other people are capable of knowing anything? Weird. Do I even sound remotely like an LLM? Or did you think that only LLMs are capable of enumerating and numbering logical possibilities for correlations?! Not everyone is incapable of independent thought or structuring an argument. Where did you think LLMs learned it from?
And if, as you repeatedly insist, it must have been that all internet infrastructure was down, the headline (at last somewhere) would be “GOP event crashes the internet”, not “GOP event crashes grindr, again”.
GOP events keep crashing grindr. Your long and convoluted arguments that this couldn’t possibly have happened specifically to grindr are incorrect, and your insistent rejection of the obvious explanation that closeted Republicans got the chance for some consequence free sex for once is irrational and biased.
You really are falling at the occam’s razor thing. Like, properly badly.
Holy shit. I’m done reading your replies. It’s like you can’t read.
I never said a website can’t go down due to high demand. I said it’s not the ONLY way it goes down. Holy shit reading comprehension and reasoning are not your strong suite.
Maybe you should stick with ChatGPT replies. (That was a joke and an insult. Because you sound like a lifeless robot. It wasn’t an actual assertion).
Yeah that’s part of what bothers me about this rhetoric. It does seem vaguely homophobic.
This generates so many questions it could be a study. I do not have any gay friends, or know of people around me who use Grindr so I guess if someone who does could tell me.
Do these people seek “locals” (nonMAGA) of towns/cities they live, or do they seek other MAGA hidden on the platform? If they’re looking for a non-MAGA partner, do they hide their leanings? Is it just not something discussed during dms before hooking up? Do they often become toxic and try to bully the partner or do they keep quiet and try to blend in with John Everyman? If they look for each other, do they have like…a tell on their profile to help signal to each other to help get swipes? Are they often top/bottom or is the demographic still case-by-case? Do they attend Grindr and mark “looking for friends” or “looking for hookups”? (Women used to use bumble a lot but like 90% of them were always marked as “just looking for friends” rather than hookups on their profiles)
This is the second time I’ve seen this phenomena of grindr spiking in a city where lots of MAGA congregates, but I dont think I’ve ever heard of assaults on homosexuals from maga people specifically after a hookup on grindr, in local/national news
(Women used to use bumble a lot but like 90% of them were always marked as “just looking for friends” rather than hookups on their profiles)
I’d just like to say, as a woman who used dating apps a lot in my young 20s, I didn’t put “looking for hookups” even when that’s what I wanted. If a woman puts on her profile that she’s looking for hookups, some guys become scarily entitled. For some reason some people think “wanting a hookup” means “I will fuck anyone who asks.” Which is… quite the bizarre leap. Add in, such profiles get inundated with messages - some guys will react poorly if ignored, while others will react poorly if responded to but then rejected. It’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation, with some unhinged folk who have your picture, name, and know what town you live in.
I quickly realized it was a bad idea and never chose that option on a dating profile again.
I figured, but also now theres just straight up separate pools I think. When you create an account one of the settings is specifically “looking for friends”. Part of “the game” I’m glad I dont have to race around trying to play anymore tbh. (But yeah no I get totally sucks on the women’s end too for the opposite reason it sucks for men)
It’s gay (or bi) MAGA men in the closet seeking hookups with people in other towns so they don’t bump into them later at the grocery store with their wife.
These are the same people that will say shit like “faggots make me sick” and some probably even go gay bashing.
Their religion and culture have damaged their brains into rejecting who they are and what they want in life and will violently lash out at others who embrace who they are.
I’d feel pity for them if they weren’t such horrible humans.
These are the same people that will say shit like “faggots make me sick” and some probably even go gay bashing.
My pet theory is that these bisexual conservatives are the origin of the “it’s a choice” thing. Because they do wake up every morning and choose to act straight in everyday life. And since they do it, they assume every gay person can do it. They’re just bisexual, and constantly deny that they find the same sex attractive.
Their hatred for gay people runs so deep because whenever they see an openly gay person, they see the part of themselves that they constantly deny; The part that they’re only able to deny by constantly telling themselves that it is disgusting. Because if they stop telling themselves that, they’re afraid that they’ll give into it. So whenever they see an openly gay person, the internalized “this part of you is disgusting and you should feel ashamed of it” part of them bubbles up to the surface and manifests as “just choose to be straight” homophobia.
I agree with this. Believing this also makes me comfortable in my straightness. I love the gay community, gay bars make the strongest drinks, and they are fun as hell to be with. They can grab my ass all they want, but I’ll always reject them. My fellow gay humans, keep being fabulous baby!
No I understand the rationale and why this occurs in the way it does, but not the process theyre going about it.
My thought was “surely if there was a larger trend AFTER these hookup patterns there’d be talk of it” but I am not the type of person/near the people who would be affected so I hear nothing and find that…unusual, given how much tea would be spilled back and forth on social media of “paul” recognizing “george” on grindr
“This is the second time I’ve seen this phenomena of grindr spiking in a city where lots of MAGA congregates”
This is easily the 6-7th time I’ve seen this exact thing. It’s hilarious every single time.
"Sitting whilst black was what first drew our suspicion. Then after we were called and we determined it best for him to leave the train, he simply refused to leave, AND asked questions! Judge, as you see, we had no option available other than to arrest and detain. If it wasn’t for my colleague being so liberal, we’d have thrown him to the floor too, just like in our training "
The gay Nazis are gonna be hella mad when they find out xstian nazis have been sizing them up for the ovens the whole time.
Wouldn’t that be an interesting list of names, if it unfortunately ever leaked?
Leaking it wouldn’t really accomplish much because they’d just get replaced by more Republicans. But if they were blackmailed, that could potentially influence policy, or make the thief rich.
this is one of those things that when we’re old and trying to tell our grandkids about what it was like to live in this era, nobody is going to believe. “Grandpa said Republican conventions and events used to bring gay hookup sites offline, as if hookup web sites were city-specific domains, each with their own separate database and each running on a potato, as late as 2025”
Part of the Grindset.
To be fair, I also hooked up with gay dudes that same day
Nothing to see then. It was you who hooked up with 18400 dudes that day
Busy day
Just a Tuesday for some
